Round 1....Finally It Is Here

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Re: Round 1....Finally It Is Here

Postby Jim05 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:58 am

Off season hair testing will be scrapped, the players will see to it. It serves no purpose whatsoever
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Re: Round 1....Finally It Is Here

Postby Booney » Tue Mar 29, 2016 9:59 am

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CoverKing wrote:He did not say he guessed the article. He said in the article "up to 11". He also said on 360 how he continued to ask the two clubs above Collingwood but could not get them so he went with the article with Collingwood

Exactly, he didn't have an exact figure and said they decided to go with 11 just because. And then slaps Collingwood's name next to an arbitrary number in which several other clubs also fall within.

Top shelf journalism.


No he was told just under half (of 23), and he wouldn't be getting it from some Joe Blow on the street. Stan is right (imho), and I alluded to it in a previous post, the issues are much bigger than a career journalist doing his job.

- Why dont the clubs get the information first?
- Why do the clubs have to have confidentiality with the AFL on this issue (to the point that they can't defend themselves)?
- Why is there even testing for illicit substances if there's no penalty?
- Why does the AFLPA have so much power?


This.

The league and it's clubs have been told by the players what the rules will be, where else do the employees set the rules for the employers?

With the new TV deal they'll be asking for mo' money, that's around 800 players on an average of $300,000 per year telling the people who pay them, employ them and in this case are charged with their welfare on what the rules for illicit and performance enhancing drugs will be.

Time the clubs stood up for their rights as not only the employer but the ones who are in the best place to mange the welfare of the players.

What if the same group of blokes return positive hair samples from off season testing for illicit substances 3 or 4 years in succession? Clearly the club has a culture problem, clearly the club needs to work on the problem and clearly young players entering the club are going to be exposed to illicit substances with their pockets full of cash for the first time in their lives.

Get over it Collingwood, this isn't about you. Not everything is....
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Re: Round 1....Finally It Is Here

Postby Q. » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:07 am

JK wrote:
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CoverKing wrote:He did not say he guessed the article. He said in the article "up to 11". He also said on 360 how he continued to ask the two clubs above Collingwood but could not get them so he went with the article with Collingwood

Exactly, he didn't have an exact figure and said they decided to go with 11 just because. And then slaps Collingwood's name next to an arbitrary number in which several other clubs also fall within.

Top shelf journalism.


No he was told just under half (of 23), and he wouldn't be getting it from some Joe Blow on the street. Stan is right (imho), and I alluded to it in a previous post, the issues are much bigger than a career journalist doing his job.


Of course, doesn't mean I can't be pissed off that the fat **** unnecessarily put 40 Collingwood players under the microscope just hours out from Round 1, while not actually addressing the real issues in a click-bait article.
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Re: Round 1....Finally It Is Here

Postby Q. » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:09 am

Booney wrote:Get over it Collingwood, this isn't about you. Not everything is....


Every other club would be equally as pissed if they were used as the headline.
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Re: Round 1....Finally It Is Here

Postby JK » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:15 am

Q. wrote:
JK wrote:
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CoverKing wrote:He did not say he guessed the article. He said in the article "up to 11". He also said on 360 how he continued to ask the two clubs above Collingwood but could not get them so he went with the article with Collingwood

Exactly, he didn't have an exact figure and said they decided to go with 11 just because. And then slaps Collingwood's name next to an arbitrary number in which several other clubs also fall within.

Top shelf journalism.


No he was told just under half (of 23), and he wouldn't be getting it from some Joe Blow on the street. Stan is right (imho), and I alluded to it in a previous post, the issues are much bigger than a career journalist doing his job.


Of course, doesn't mean I can't be pissed off that the fat **** unnecessarily put 40 Collingwood players under the microscope just hours out from Round 1, while not actually addressing the real issues in a click-bait article.


Think your anger is probably better directed at your players that so badly under-performed on the weekend bud.
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Re: Round 1....Finally It Is Here

Postby woodublieve12 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:22 am

according to the media its the main reason Collingwood played so bad, nothing to do with the swans :roll:
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Re: Round 1....Finally It Is Here

Postby Q. » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:24 am

JK wrote:Think your anger is probably better directed at your players that so badly under-performed on the weekend bud.


Don't worry, am absolutely livid at the effort.
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Re: Round 1....Finally It Is Here

Postby stan » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:25 am

woodublieve12 wrote:according to the media its the main reason Collingwood played so bad, nothing to do with the swans :roll:

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Re: Round 1....Finally It Is Here

Postby Q. » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:29 am

As Chris Scott alluded to, dump the league wide illicit drug testing and adopt WADA code. Clubs can run and deal with their own illicit drug tests if they wish.
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Re: Round 1....Finally It Is Here

Postby JK » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:36 am

Q. wrote:
JK wrote:Think your anger is probably better directed at your players that so badly under-performed on the weekend bud.


Don't worry, am absolutely livid at the effort.


Massive game already for them this Friday night .. They are better than they showed in round 1, or at least they should be.
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Re: Round 1....Finally It Is Here

Postby Q. » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:45 am

JK wrote:
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JK wrote:Think your anger is probably better directed at your players that so badly under-performed on the weekend bud.


Don't worry, am absolutely livid at the effort.


Massive game already for them this Friday night .. They are better than they showed in round 1, or at least they should be.


Well, we couldn't possibly play much worse than Saturday night.
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Re: Round 1....Finally It Is Here

Postby Booney » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:51 am

JK wrote:
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JK wrote:Think your anger is probably better directed at your players that so badly under-performed on the weekend bud.


Don't worry, am absolutely livid at the effort.


Massive game already for them this Friday night .. They are better than they showed in round 1, or at least they should be.


Why is the football world assuming this?

Cloke and White are in and out of a game like a honeymooners dick. The way the game is now played means you need to score and score heavily, average winning score this week - 107 pts.

The Pies averaged 89 points per game in '15, where have the 4-5 extra goals per week come from? You can't say Moore, Fasolo, De Goey are going to get the score on the board week in week out, not yet anyway.

Cloke is unpredictable, hardly reliable and White played VFL on the weekend, went ok but stayed goalless.
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Re: Round 1....Finally It Is Here

Postby Armytank » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:53 am

Booney wrote:The league and it's clubs have been told by the players what the rules will be, where else do the employees set the rules for the employers?


how about the CFMEU? Or the ETU?
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Re: Round 1....Finally It Is Here

Postby Jim05 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:53 am

woodublieve12 wrote:according to the media its the main reason Collingwood played so bad, nothing to do with the swans :roll:

Geez they have had to deal with it for 1 whole week and folded under the pressure, imagine having to deal with it for 3 years[emoji6]
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Re: Round 1....Finally It Is Here

Postby Booney » Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:03 am

Armytank wrote:
Booney wrote:The league and it's clubs have been told by the players what the rules will be, where else do the employees set the rules for the employers?


how about the CFMEU? Or the ETU?


Don't get me started.... :lol:
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Re: Round 1....Finally It Is Here

Postby Q. » Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:09 am

Booney wrote:
JK wrote:
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JK wrote:Think your anger is probably better directed at your players that so badly under-performed on the weekend bud.


Don't worry, am absolutely livid at the effort.


Massive game already for them this Friday night .. They are better than they showed in round 1, or at least they should be.


Why is the football world assuming this?

Cloke and White are in and out of a game like a honeymooners dick. The way the game is now played means you need to score and score heavily, average winning score this week - 107 pts.

The Pies averaged 89 points per game in '15, where have the 4-5 extra goals per week come from? You can't say Moore, Fasolo, De Goey are going to get the score on the board week in week out, not yet anyway.

Cloke is unpredictable, hardly reliable and White played VFL on the weekend, went ok but stayed goalless.


White played defence in VFL.
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Re: Round 1....Finally It Is Here

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:42 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:according to the media its the main reason Collingwood played so bad, nothing to do with the swans :roll:


Yes not much credit given there.

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Re: Round 1....Finally It Is Here

Postby marbles » Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:56 pm

pies will come out & smash richmond

to have volunteering testing with no punishment done just for curiosity sakes, and then have results released or leaked, is outrageous, and a tragedy

players would woken up with possible "drug taker" charges to their names, in full fear of facing what essendon have gone through. Youd soon lose focus on the sydney game ahead that night, expecting WADA or whoever to be knocking on your door anytime soon
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Re: Round 1....Finally It Is Here

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:07 pm

Hardly a tragedy LOL
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Re: Round 1....Finally It Is Here

Postby marbles » Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:13 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:Hardly a tragedy LOL


:D true

whats the word then? if you volunteered ur body to science knowing thered be no way of your results being revealed

and then on the eve of your big big day, some yobbo robbo spills the beans on your team claiming you are possibly a drug user on the national forum
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