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MW wrote:5 years on better coin vs 2-3 years on reduced coin to force PA to a higher wage as a FA? Risky move Ollie.

He'll be our highest paid player, if he left he might get $900k, he'll be over $800k with us.

Booney wrote:

MW wrote:5 years on better coin vs 2-3 years on reduced coin to force PA to a higher wage as a FA? Risky move Ollie.

He'll be our highest paid player, if he left he might get $900k, he'll be over $800k with us.

Why does Kane Cornes have it in for him?

MW wrote:

Booney wrote:

MW wrote:5 years on better coin vs 2-3 years on reduced coin to force PA to a higher wage as a FA? Risky move Ollie.

He'll be our highest paid player, if he left he might get $900k, he'll be over $800k with us.

Why does Kane Cornes have it in for him?

Did the phones run hot after his comments?

MW wrote:

Booney wrote:

MW wrote:5 years on better coin vs 2-3 years on reduced coin to force PA to a higher wage as a FA? Risky move Ollie.

He'll be our highest paid player, if he left he might get $900k, he'll be over $800k with us.

Why does Kane Cornes have it in for him?

Hang on, I thought Kane was staunchly pro-Port and anti-Crows.

morell wrote:

MW wrote:

Booney wrote:

MW wrote:5 years on better coin vs 2-3 years on reduced coin to force PA to a higher wage as a FA? Risky move Ollie.

He'll be our highest paid player, if he left he might get $900k, he'll be over $800k with us.

Why does Kane Cornes have it in for him?

Hang on, I thought Kane was staunchly pro-Port and anti-Crows.

Not sure he hates Wines, just said Port should give him a 2 week ultimatum to sign or stop negotiating until the season ends

He's just never rated him as an elite mid

MW wrote:He's just never rated him as an elite mid

Is Wines elite? I'd say he is. He's averaged over 26 disposals, 6 clearances, 5 tackles and 13 contested possessions for 3 years now. Prior to that he had 2 seasons of 24+, 5, 5 and 11. That's 5 years over 24 touches, 5 clearances and 5 tackles on average. That's elite numbers in my book and he's not yet 24 with several years of his best footy ahead of him. He's elite with the only question mark over his disposal efficiency at times, but his job is to be in and under when efficiency is going to be harder to maintain.

Booney wrote:

MW wrote:He's just never rated him as an elite mid

Is Wines elite? I'd say he is. He's averaged over 26 disposals, 6 clearances, 5 tackles and 13 contested possessions for 3 years now. Prior to that he had 2 seasons of 24+, 5, 5 and 11. That's 5 years over 24 touches, 5 clearances and 5 tackles on average. That's elite numbers in my book and he's not yet 24 with several years of his best footy ahead of him. He's elite with the only question mark over his disposal efficiency at times, but his job is to be in and under when efficiency is going to be harder to maintain.

Which is my point. Why does Cornes not rate him...

MW wrote:

Booney wrote:

MW wrote:He's just never rated him as an elite mid

Is Wines elite? I'd say he is. He's averaged over 26 disposals, 6 clearances, 5 tackles and 13 contested possessions for 3 years now. Prior to that he had 2 seasons of 24+, 5, 5 and 11. That's 5 years over 24 touches, 5 clearances and 5 tackles on average. That's elite numbers in my book and he's not yet 24 with several years of his best footy ahead of him. He's elite with the only question mark over his disposal efficiency at times, but his job is to be in and under when efficiency is going to be harder to maintain.

Which is my point. Why does Cornes not rate him...

To make the phones ring mate, to make the phones ring.

Booney wrote:

MW wrote:He's just never rated him as an elite mid

Is Wines elite? I'd say he is. He's averaged over 26 disposals, 6 clearances, 5 tackles and 13 contested possessions for 3 years now. Prior to that he had 2 seasons of 24+, 5, 5 and 11. That's 5 years over 24 touches, 5 clearances and 5 tackles on average. That's elite numbers in my book and he's not yet 24 with several years of his best footy ahead of him. He's elite with the only question mark over his disposal efficiency at times, but his job is to be in and under when efficiency is going to be harder to maintain.

Absolutely he is.

Wedgie wrote:http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-02-03/the-true-elites-which-clubs-have-got-them

What a load of snot:

Adelaide
Brodie Smith
Rory Sloane
Rory Laird
Eddie Betts
Tom Lynch
Taylor Walker

Brisbane Lions
Daniel Rich
Dayne Zorko

Carlton
Sam Docherty

Collingwood
Jeremy Howe
Scott Pendlebury
Jack Crisp

Essendon
Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti
Michael Hurley

Fremantle
Nat Fyfe

Geelong
Patrick Dangerfield
Gary Ablett
Sam Menegola
Daniel Menzel

Gold Coast
Aaron Hall
Tom Lynch

GWS
Zac Williams
Toby Greene
Jeremy Cameron
Lachie Whitfield

Hawthorn
Ben McEvoy
Luke Breust
Cyril Rioli

Melbourne
Jake Lever
Christian Petracca
Jayden Hunt
Tom McDonald

North Melbourne
Todd Goldstein

Port Adelaide
Robbie Gray
Paddy Ryder
Justin Westhoff
Charlie Dixon
Chad Wingard
Travis Boak

Richmond
Dustin Martin
Alex Rance
Shane Edwards

St Kilda
Jack Sinclair

Sydney
Lance Franklin
Dan Hannebery
Tom Papley
Josh Kennedy
Dane Rampe

West Coast
Jeremy McGovern
Elliot Yeo
Shannon Hurn
Josh Kennedy
Luke Shuey
Nic Naitanui

Western Bulldogs
Jason Johannisen

Wines is a slight level below the absolute elite in the comp imo. but still has a another gear left in him too

bennymacca wrote:Wines is a slight level below the absolute elite in the comp imo. but still has a another gear left in him too

I can spot at least 10 players on that list that Wines would shit all over in many facets.

Wedgie wrote:http://www.afl.com.au/stats/player-ratings/overall-standings#position/midfielder

yep 28th best mid seems about right to me

I cant see anyone on that list ahead of him that I think is a worse player. (not taking age into account)

It was done in February I guess.

Lightning McQueen wrote:It was done in February I guess.

The rating of Wines as 28th when it comes to midfielders rankings was updated two days ago.

bennymacca wrote:

Wedgie wrote:http://www.afl.com.au/stats/player-ratings/overall-standings#position/midfielder

yep 28th best mid seems about right to me

I cant see anyone on that list ahead of him that I think is a worse player. (not taking age into account)

He's the 20th ranked midfielder, the 28th (equal) over all.

bennymacca wrote:

Wedgie wrote:http://www.afl.com.au/stats/player-ratings/overall-standings#position/midfielder

yep 28th best mid seems about right to me

I cant see anyone on that list ahead of him that I think is a worse player. (not taking age into account)

Debatable.