by MW » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:29 pm
by The Bedge » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:32 pm
whufc wrote:shoe boy wrote:Im a fan of the dissent rule.
As reviews in cricket have seen, players are terrible at decision making and generally see what happened completely wrong.
Shut up and play the game.
Rugby union is one of the few sports that have got the respect between players/officials right.
Dolphin Treasure wrote:Your an attention seeking embarsement..
by whufc » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:37 pm
The Bedge wrote:whufc wrote:shoe boy wrote:Im a fan of the dissent rule.
As reviews in cricket have seen, players are terrible at decision making and generally see what happened completely wrong.
Shut up and play the game.
Rugby union is one of the few sports that have got the respect between players/officials right.
It's terribly enforced and the punishment does not fit the crime - players putting their arms out or shaking their heads being marched 50m back and almost a certain opposition goal. It's ridiculous.
by shoe boy » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:46 pm
by whufc » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:49 pm
shoe boy wrote:I've found the AFL very enjoyable to watch this year as a neutral. First time I have said that in almost ten years.
by The Bedge » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:52 pm
Dolphin Treasure wrote:Your an attention seeking embarsement..
by Trader » Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:58 pm
by shoe boy » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:14 pm
Trader wrote:The rule is fine.
The players unwillingness to accept it is the rule and zip it is the problem.
Umpires enforcing it isn't an issue.
If players just play the game then the umpires won't have the opportunity to pay anything.
by Dutchy » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:54 pm
by Lightning McQueen » Tue Apr 19, 2022 2:56 pm
Dutchy wrote:Plenty of times players put their arms in the air as they are frustrated with their performance and/or their team mates, I can see an umpire misinterpreting this and paying a 50m very soon.
I feel for the umpires as Im sure most of them wouldn't want to pay these penalties.
by gadj1976 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:31 pm
Trader wrote:The rule is fine.
The players unwillingness to accept it is the rule and zip it is the problem.
Umpires enforcing it isn't an issue.
If players just play the game then the umpires won't have the opportunity to pay anything.
by Armchair expert » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:54 pm
Lightning McQueen wrote:You're a legend
by Trader » Tue Apr 19, 2022 5:57 pm
gadj1976 wrote:Trader wrote:The rule is fine.
The players unwillingness to accept it is the rule and zip it is the problem.
Umpires enforcing it isn't an issue.
If players just play the game then the umpires won't have the opportunity to pay anything.
Ahh, this is a chicken and egg scenario in my mind!
If Hawkins doesn't get paid that free kick, players wouldn't look at the screen and ask a legitimate question of the umpires. Don't pay the free kicks that aren't there and the players wont have anything to argue with!
So when you say 'play the game', they can't. Can anyone, tell me the definition of a block in a ruck contest for instance?
by Jimmy_041 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:27 pm
Trader wrote:gadj1976 wrote:Trader wrote:The rule is fine.
The players unwillingness to accept it is the rule and zip it is the problem.
Umpires enforcing it isn't an issue.
If players just play the game then the umpires won't have the opportunity to pay anything.
Ahh, this is a chicken and egg scenario in my mind!
If Hawkins doesn't get paid that free kick, players wouldn't look at the screen and ask a legitimate question of the umpires. Don't pay the free kicks that aren't there and the players wont have anything to argue with!
So when you say 'play the game', they can't. Can anyone, tell me the definition of a block in a ruck contest for instance?
So the players expect the umpires to be perfect?
What if every time a player turns the ball over the umpires abuse him?
What if every time they make a bad decision, the umpires abuse him?
If a player makes a mistake, his teammate will get around him, get him back up and ready for the next contest.
If an umpire makes a mistake, the player will abuse him and say its his fault for getting something wrong.
This is the problem. A Player respects his mate but not the bloke in green/yellow/blue/etc.
Allow the umpires to be human, during the week their performance will be reviewed.
Abusing him in front of the 300,000 fans watching on TV isn't the answer.
by gadj1976 » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:32 pm
Trader wrote:gadj1976 wrote:Trader wrote:The rule is fine.
The players unwillingness to accept it is the rule and zip it is the problem.
Umpires enforcing it isn't an issue.
If players just play the game then the umpires won't have the opportunity to pay anything.
Ahh, this is a chicken and egg scenario in my mind!
If Hawkins doesn't get paid that free kick, players wouldn't look at the screen and ask a legitimate question of the umpires. Don't pay the free kicks that aren't there and the players wont have anything to argue with!
So when you say 'play the game', they can't. Can anyone, tell me the definition of a block in a ruck contest for instance?
So the players expect the umpires to be perfect?
What if every time a player turns the ball over the umpires abuse him?
What if every time they make a bad decision, the umpires abuse him?
If a player makes a mistake, his teammate will get around him, get him back up and ready for the next contest.
If an umpire makes a mistake, the player will abuse him and say its his fault for getting something wrong.
This is the problem. A Player respects his mate but not the bloke in green/yellow/blue/etc.
Allow the umpires to be human, during the week their performance will be reviewed.
Abusing him in front of the 300,000 fans watching on TV isn't the answer.
by RB » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:40 pm
gadj1976 wrote:BTW, for me, dissent isn't putting your arms up asking why a free kick was there.
by Zelezny Chucks » Tue Apr 19, 2022 6:46 pm
Trader wrote:gadj1976 wrote:Trader wrote:The rule is fine.
The players unwillingness to accept it is the rule and zip it is the problem.
Umpires enforcing it isn't an issue.
If players just play the game then the umpires won't have the opportunity to pay anything.
Ahh, this is a chicken and egg scenario in my mind!
If Hawkins doesn't get paid that free kick, players wouldn't look at the screen and ask a legitimate question of the umpires. Don't pay the free kicks that aren't there and the players wont have anything to argue with!
So when you say 'play the game', they can't. Can anyone, tell me the definition of a block in a ruck contest for instance?
So the players expect the umpires to be perfect?
What if every time a player turns the ball over the umpires abuse him?
What if every time they make a bad decision, the umpires abuse him?
If a player makes a mistake, his teammate will get around him, get him back up and ready for the next contest.
If an umpire makes a mistake, the player will abuse him and say its his fault for getting something wrong.
This is the problem. A Player respects his mate but not the bloke in green/yellow/blue/etc.
Allow the umpires to be human, during the week their performance will be reviewed.
Abusing him in front of the 300,000 fans watching on TV isn't the answer.
by Trader » Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:49 pm
Jimmy_041 wrote:Trader wrote:Allow the umpires to be human, during the week their performance will be reviewed.
Abusing him in front of the 300,000 fans watching on TV isn't the answer.
But the players cant be?
by whufc » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:41 am
by Lightning McQueen » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:52 am
whufc wrote:I didn't realise umpire abuse and grown men throwing the dummy out of the cot was actually part of the game. The 'game' is better for players getting on with doing what their paid do.....play the game.
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