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Re: Sack Craig

Postby Footy Smart » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:44 am

Booney wrote:"The Board and Managment are right behind the coach"

Last people to hear that?

Terry Wallace
Gary Ayres
Chris Connelly


Trigg is right though, the guy has had nothing to work with this year and has earnt more than 4 losses' worth of credit in the bank.



Ahhh yes the kiss of death :lol: always reassuring to hear that im sure!

He hasnt had much to work with in his coaching career at the crows really... not premiership winning standard anyway, and has def earnt more than 4 poor games. Ok so we sack him this week, who takes over?
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby Gingernuts » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:46 am

Booney wrote:"The Board and Managment are right behind the coach"

Last people to hear that?

Terry Wallace
Gary Ayres
Chris Connelly


Trigg is right though, the guy has had nothing to work with this year and has earnt more than 4 losses' worth of credit in the bank.


Agreed, I think he's got the runs on the board to keep the gig at least until the end of the year.

I feel like this very much mirrors what Geelong went through in 2006. Geelong finished tenth and Thompson hung onto his job by the skin of his teeth - from wikipedia:

2006: Pre-season success, but season failure

Main article: Geelong Football Club season 2006

Season 2006 began promisingly, but ended with criticism by club members of the performance of the club. Geelong beat Adelaide to claim the pre-season National Australia Bank Cup. Big wins at home against the Brisbane Lions and Kangaroos in the first two rounds fuelled optimism. However, Geelong began to underperform, losing some close encounters and suffering some humiliating defeats. In the final game of the year, the Cats were soundly beaten by Hawthorn for the second time. Geelong finished tenth on the ladder with ten wins and a draw. Responding to member anger, the Board ordered a comprehensive review of all aspects of the administration of the club and of the club's personnel. Coach Mark Thompson was widely perceived to be at risk. However, the review accepted that Thompson should continue as coach. The Board opted for stability over the uncertainty of radical personnel change. Thompson was publicly outraged by the ordeal which he considered poorly handled.


This season failure came after a heartbreaking finals exit and a 5th place finish in the 2005 season.
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby Booney » Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:47 am

Fair to say he has had and does have the cattle but the game style is getting harder to stick to because of the talent pool thinning out or the young blokes not being up to it just yet.

Wonder what Kurt Tippett is saying to his manager now?
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby Gingernuts » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:06 pm

Booney wrote:Fair to say he has had and does have the cattle but the game style is getting harder to stick to because of the talent pool thinning out or the young blokes not being up to it just yet.

Wonder what Kurt Tippett is saying to his manager now?


Was thinking the same thing as abuse was hurled over the fence Saturday. Way to keep the interstaters around people. :roll:

I honestly think that this will end up being a positive experience for the younger crew coming through. None of them have experienced anything close to this in their time at the club and going through the process of draging themselves out of this form slump will only make them stronger players in the long run.
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby UK Fan » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:24 pm

Neil Criag wont be sacked. He will have to quit IMHO.

Was anyone else concerned that Craig was quoted as saying "the most concerning thing about thwe weekend was the crows ball movement". Yet they seemed to be moving the ball OK until they got to half back and realised their was noboy to kick it to ???
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby Sojourner » Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:10 pm

Footy Smart wrote:Ok so we sack him this week, who takes over?


For this week it would have to be one of either Noble, Bicklely or Viney.

I am not sure if a current AFL Assistant Coach would leave their AFL club midstream to take up a Senior Coaching role at another AFL side, it would most likely depend what would be written into their contract. One would assume that one of the Crows Assistant Coaches would have to take the role for the rest of the season and then a decision would be made.

Ken Hinkley was regarded by many as a good chance of getting the job at Richmond, one would think that he would be a fair chance of being the next cab off the rank for any available AFL Senior coaching position available.
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby overloaded » Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:55 pm

I would sack Craig immediatly and offer the job to Riccuito
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby sapaul » Mon Apr 19, 2010 4:33 pm

overloaded wrote:I would sack Craig immediatly and offer the job to Riccuito


Good job you're not running the show. :roll:
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby overloaded » Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:34 pm

what you got against Roo?
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby Psyber » Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:54 pm

Is Malcolm Blight looking for a job again?? :lol:
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby JK » Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:04 pm

Psyber wrote:Is Malcolm Blight looking for a job again?? :lol:


Had to laugh at the article in the Tiser the other day with Blighty .. Explained how to turn it all around after a poor early start to the season as was the case in 97 and 98 - Failed to mention 99' though and the big difference then, as with now, is that the Crows had finally become rated appropriately by their opposition.

Noone takes any team lightly in this competition, but when a team they consider to be one of the premiership chances is struggling the foot goes straight onto the throat.

This year mirrors 99' in many ways and the issues the Hawks had to deal with last season, and I don't think either Clarkson or Craig is to blame in either case.
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby The Dark Knight » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:34 pm

bloods08 wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:Time is slowly ticking away for Neil, better come up with something soon


I'd be more worried about your coach at the moment.

He certaintly isn't on solid ground at the moment.


At least Port are 2 and 2
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby bloods08 » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:48 pm

The Dark Knight wrote:
bloods08 wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:Time is slowly ticking away for Neil, better come up with something soon


I'd be more worried about your coach at the moment.

He certaintly isn't on solid ground at the moment.


At least Port are 2 and 2


And just come off a pretty poor last 2 years. Unlike the crows.
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby Strawb » Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:16 pm

If I were the crows I would seriously look at Ken Hinkley. He was very unlucky missing out on the Richmond Job. But will the old he is a Victorian and cannot coach a South Australian Team mentality come into it. I wouldn't hire Roo he has no previous coaching experience with a current AFL club I would look at more assistant coaches or best bet would be to Keep Craig til the end of the year and then look elsewhere. Maybe Mark Micken or Andy Collins.
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby NFC » Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:16 am

It's funny the 360 degrees this thread has taken. :lol:
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby Punk Rooster » Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:39 am

would I be the first to suggest that Craig is not a match day coach?
Very good assistant (possibly second to none), but not coach.

Sacking Craig would be a very tough decision for the club to make, & I believe the club will wear 0-4, but should the Crows be 0-8, the tough decision gets less tough.
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby Strawb » Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:45 am

Punk Rooster wrote:would I be the first to suggest that Craig is not a match day coach?
Very good assistant (possibly second to none), but not coach.

Sacking Craig would be a very tough decision for the club to make, & I believe the club will wear 0-4, but should the Crows be 0-8, the tough decision gets less tough.

I agree with you there Punk but who would be the best coach for the crows
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby Booney » Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:57 am

Strawb07 wrote:
Punk Rooster wrote:would I be the first to suggest that Craig is not a match day coach?
Very good assistant (possibly second to none), but not coach.

Sacking Craig would be a very tough decision for the club to make, & I believe the club will wear 0-4, but should the Crows be 0-8, the tough decision gets less tough.

I agree with you there Punk but who would be the best coach for the crows


Nobody would know that at this point and it would only be via rigorous testing and interviewing that that person would be revealed.

Even then there are no guaruntees.
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby Hondo » Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:21 am

Punk Rooster wrote:would I be the first to suggest that Craig is not a match day coach?
Very good assistant (possibly second to none), but not coach.


You wouldn't be the first to suggest it. Does that make you right or does it mean you are a parrot?

If I hear one more cliche about NC I think I will .... well, I dunno what I will do.

There may have been some errors made in finals (there's also been bad luck and 2 losses with kicks after the siren) but you can't possibly have the W-L record NC does and not be a "match day coach".

Show me a coach that has never had a team string some losses in a row. I think this would be the worst run in his 6 full seasons? It's bad but it's only 0-4.
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby Booney » Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:53 am

Agreed Hondo, but the 0-4 start Richmond has had was on the cards, nobody would have expected Adelaide to be 0-4 with what was a very favourable draw in the first month.

Expectation on season 2010 means 0-4 is more even more of a shock.

Unless there is a turn around in the next two weeks then 0-8 isnt out of the question at all.
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