The Cloke and Dawes Dilemma

[daysofourlives]

I cant believe so many non collingwood people actually care.

[tigerpie]

Both players are in the coaches best 22....in form!

Dawes does compete hard for the ball and does a decent job in the ruck. He's in!

Cloke could do anything in the next few weeks and i'll back him in to play well in the finals. He's in!

Tarrant, when he gets a bit more match fit, will pinch hit as a utility. He's in!

[LMA]

Hawkins has become a better forward than Cloke, that is pretty damning for a bloke who wants a mill a season

[overloaded]

Hawkins

trolling at its best

[Squids]

248 in 160 games said it all really.

[Pag]

Dawes hasn't done anything all season. 17 games is enough time to find some form.

Looking very much Brad Miller-esque.

[fish]

Hawkins has become a better forward than Cloke, that is pretty damning for a bloke who wants a mill a season

Cloke needs to dominate in pretty well every game if he wants to receive that sort of money...

[the big bang]

against gws this week they should run him into touch,
personally i would put cloke at centre half back for a couple of games to see what hard work is needed and required for the key forward positions
might also help him learn where he should be running to
his whole career has been built on belting up the weaker clubs

he's an All-Australian Premiership forward, with a club BnF under his belt, i rekon he's got a fair idea off what he needs to do/where he needs to be.

confidence is a big thing for some players, unfortunatly for us, he is one of them.

i understand he had one really good year
but the facts are he doesnt work anywhere near harder enough
the fact is that he is big and strong that a couple of clubs want him
but with a bad record on goal kicking,doesnt work hard enough,easily suxed in means maybe he is not as good as some people think,esp him and his dad

i think it was after the Port game in round 4, a reporter asked Bucks if he was worried about Trav's workrate. Bucks' reply was something along the lines of......

"Are you serious? I can go get the GPS readings from the game, Travis ran 13kms during the game, that's more than our on-ballers ran. It was the most out of any of our players."

i know thats over 3 months ago, and it was just one game, but he works bloody hard.

[smac]

15k on the weekend gone according to Maxwell on SEN yesterday.

[dee man]

against gws this week they should run him into touch,
personally i would put cloke at centre half back for a couple of games to see what hard work is needed and required for the key forward positions
might also help him learn where he should be running to
his whole career has been built on belting up the weaker clubs

he's an All-Australian Premiership forward, with a club BnF under his belt, i rekon he's got a fair idea off what he needs to do/where he needs to be.

confidence is a big thing for some players, unfortunatly for us, he is one of them.

i understand he had one really good year
but the facts are he doesnt work anywhere near harder enough
the fact is that he is big and strong that a couple of clubs want him
but with a bad record on goal kicking,doesnt work hard enough,easily suxed in means maybe he is not as good as some people think,esp him and his dad

i think it was after the Port game in round 4, a reporter asked Bucks if he was worried about Trav's workrate. Bucks' reply was something along the lines of......

"Are you serious? I can go get the GPS readings from the game, Travis ran 13kms during the game, that's more than our on-ballers ran. It was the most out of any of our players."

i know thats over 3 months ago, and it was just one game, but he works bloody hard.

so i take it your happy with his work rate,his body language,his intent and passion for the ball?
clocking up kms on the ground doesnt mean alot if 1)your chasing jumpers2)you dont get the ball3)when you do get it you stuff it up
just believe for the money his dad is asking and demanding he is not worth it

[Turbo]

So sick of hearing about cloke and boak. Both will end up with more money than they are worth.
Don't even get me started on Dawes...besides average at absolute best!

[Q.]

i understand he had one really good year
but the facts are he doesnt work anywhere near harder enough
the fact is that he is big and strong that a couple of clubs want him
but with a bad record on goal kicking,doesnt work hard enough,easily suxed in means maybe he is not as good as some people think,esp him and his dad

i think it was after the Port game in round 4, a reporter asked Bucks if he was worried about Trav's workrate. Bucks' reply was something along the lines of......

"Are you serious? I can go get the GPS readings from the game, Travis ran 13kms during the game, that's more than our on-ballers ran. It was the most out of any of our players."

i know thats over 3 months ago, and it was just one game, but he works bloody hard.

so i take it your happy with his work rate,his body language,his intent and passion for the ball?
clocking up kms on the ground doesnt mean alot if 1)your chasing jumpers2)you dont get the ball3)when you do get it you stuff it up
just believe for the money his dad is asking and demanding he is not worth it

His workrate and endeavour is fine.

People fail to realise he's being used differently compared to last year. Perhaps this is having a negative affect on his form.

[CoverKing]

Care to explain that further Q?

[Q.]

Care to explain that further Q?

From what I've seen he isn't used up the ground as much. Last year he was always up on a wing, finding space, getting in front of his defender and clunking grabs. Seems to be a restriction on his coverage this year.

[beef]

Could be trouble if both cant get a kick this week. IF they both dominate it will be who cares they played GWS, if they cant get a kick this week they never will.

[howzat]

Watching on the couch on monday melbourne football club have offered cloke 1.1 million a year for 7 years wtf he is a good player but f*** me 7.7 million you are f****** kidding me.....

[Sorry Dude]

According the the rush hour on triple m, collingwood have told cloke they do not want to talk contract negotiations with him until seasons end.

[beef]

According the the rush hour on triple m, collingwood have told cloke they do not want to talk contract negotiations with him until seasons end.

Trying to get him when his price plummets

[Footy Smart]

According the the rush hour on triple m, collingwood have told cloke they do not want to talk contract negotiations with him until seasons end.

Trying to get him when his price plummets

Eddie wont be dictated to and this would be a line in the sand move..... No player is bigger than Collingwood FC mentallity

[overloaded]

well done to the pies for not bowing to this prick