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Re: Rank the 4 contemporary HOF inductees..

Postby valleys07 » Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:40 am

For Mine it would be:

1) Hird
2) Buckley
3) Voss
4) Ricciuto
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Re: Rank the 4 contemporary HOF inductees..

Postby Wedgie » Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:16 am

GWW wrote:There's very little separating these 4 players, but I would rank them, thus:

1) James Hird
2) Michael Voss
3) Nathan Buckley
4) Mark Ricciuto

I wouldn't expect many to agree with those rankings, but that's how I see it.


Yep, same order for me too.
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Re: Rank the 4 contemporary HOF inductees..

Postby RustyCage » Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:20 am

valleys07 wrote:For Mine it would be:

1) Hird
2) Buckley
3) Voss
4) Ricciuto


That would be mine too.
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Re: Rank the 4 contemporary HOF inductees..

Postby brod » Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:22 am

Media Park wrote:1. Nathan Buckley. Hate his guts, but the best player I've seen recently.
2. Michael Voss. If nothing else, his stats.... That and he was a gun.
3. James Hird. Yeah, he went alright.
4. Roo. Very good footballer, but not up with the above three.


In the history of football, this may be the first time someone has said..."James Hird, Yeah, he went alright"

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Re: Rank the 4 contemporary HOF inductees..

Postby fish » Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:49 am

Hird

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Re: Rank the 4 contemporary HOF inductees..

Postby Media Park » Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:15 am

GWW wrote:
lebron wrote:Best kicker, preferred and non-preferred too, of the last 30 years, horribly over-rated. Carp comment mate!

You rate Buckley as a better kick than Darren Jarman?


I don't know about Lebron, but I rate Buckley's kick better.

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Media Park wrote:1. Nathan Buckley. Hate his guts, but the best player I've seen recently.
2. Michael Voss. If nothing else, his stats.... That and he was a gun.
3. James Hird. Yeah, he went alright.
4. Roo. Very good footballer, but not up with the above three.


In the history of football, this may be the first time someone has said..."James Hird, Yeah, he went alright"


Not a slight intended... Hirdy was a gun... But I look at these guys... Buckley... Best kick I've ever seen. Voss... Perfect footballer. Tough... Skilled... Great Leader... Added triple premiership Captain and a Brownlow... Speaks for itself... Roo is, a South Australian icon, a toughnut through and through, midfielder, key forward, didn't matter, he could do it... James Hird? Gun though he was, there's no epitath that sticks out for him... Could he play up forward? Yeah, Was he a gun midfielder? Yeah, but The other three, I have footy moments stuck in my mind- and always will... passages of play, statistical feats of dominance.... But Hirdy- he hugged a fan and abused an umpire... I know he was a gun, but he doesn't stick out as having something Voss or Buckley miss (except a Premiership medal... Suck shit Buckley....)
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Re: Rank the 4 contemporary HOF inductees..

Postby Bum Crack » Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:11 am

If Roo played for one of the big three Melbourne teams, most would have him number 1. 8 All Australians, Brownlow Medal, B&F's and u still rate him as 4 :roll: I don't think people really understand the leadership qualities of the guy. half back, half forward, guts, full forward. he had it all. he's my number 1 in that lot.
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Re: Rank the 4 contemporary HOF inductees..

Postby daysofourlives » Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:31 am

Totally agree Bum Crack

1) Roo - was able to be better for longer as his 8 all aussies suggest and this despite putting his body on the line every week and playing it very hard
2) Voss - just as hard as roo
3) Hird
4) Buckley

I am amazed at the amount of people in this state that put roo 4th, that south aussie inferioriety complex coming out IMO
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Re: Rank the 4 contemporary HOF inductees..

Postby Dogwatcher » Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:18 am

Hird
Voss
Buckley
Roo
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Re: Rank the 4 contemporary HOF inductees..

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:21 am

daysofourlives wrote:Totally agree Bum Crack

1) Roo - was able to be better for longer as his 8 all aussies suggest and this despite putting his body on the line every week and playing it very hard
2) Voss - just as hard as roo
3) Hird
4) Buckley

I am amazed at the amount of people in this state that put roo 4th, that south aussie inferioriety complex coming out IMO


And maybe we could say you voted Roo ahead of the others because he is South Aussie. Is it possible everyone else is wrong and you are the only person with perspective?
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Re: Rank the 4 contemporary HOF inductees..

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:23 am

Bum Crack wrote:If Roo played for one of the big three Melbourne teams, most would have him number 1. 8 All Australians, Brownlow Medal, B&F's and u still rate him as 4 :roll: I don't think people really understand the leadership qualities of the guy. half back, half forward, guts, full forward. he had it all. he's my number 1 in that lot.


You make good points about Ricciuto, but please tell me .. which boxes doesn't Hird tick in your criteria? Hird was also a key position player, both CHF & CHB.
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Re: Rank the 4 contemporary HOF inductees..

Postby lebron » Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:39 am

GWW wrote:
lebron wrote:Best kicker, preferred and non-preferred too, of the last 30 years, horribly over-rated. Carp comment mate!

You rate Buckley as a better kick than Darren Jarman?

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Re: Rank the 4 contemporary HOF inductees..

Postby Bum Crack » Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:49 am

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
Bum Crack wrote:If Roo played for one of the big three Melbourne teams, most would have him number 1. 8 All Australians, Brownlow Medal, B&F's and u still rate him as 4 :roll: I don't think people really understand the leadership qualities of the guy. half back, half forward, guts, full forward. he had it all. he's my number 1 in that lot.


You make good points about Ricciuto, but please tell me .. which boxes doesn't Hird tick in your criteria? Hird was also a key position player, both CHF & CHB.

Hird was a fantastic player and he and roo are almost level pegging. i just think roo isn't getting the credit he deserves.
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Re: Rank the 4 contemporary HOF inductees..

Postby whufc » Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:54 am

Bum Crack wrote:If Roo played for one of the big three Melbourne teams, most would have him number 1. 8 All Australians, Brownlow Medal, B&F's and u still rate him as 4 :roll: I don't think people really understand the leadership qualities of the guy. half back, half forward, guts, full forward. he had it all. he's my number 1 in that lot.


No riverland bias there either hey BC,

Buckley Number 1 for me, carried the biggest football club in Australia for many years.
Voss- 3x premiership captain hey, enough said
Hird- probably the most highly skilled played of the lot, could play any position on the ground.
Ricciuto- poor mans Voss ;)
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Re: Rank the 4 contemporary HOF inductees..

Postby Bum Crack » Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:55 am

whufc wrote:
Bum Crack wrote:If Roo played for one of the big three Melbourne teams, most would have him number 1. 8 All Australians, Brownlow Medal, B&F's and u still rate him as 4 :roll: I don't think people really understand the leadership qualities of the guy. half back, half forward, guts, full forward. he had it all. he's my number 1 in that lot.


No riverland bias there either hey BC,
Buckley Number 1 for me, carried the biggest football club in Australia for many years.
Voss- 3x premiership captain hey, enough said
Hird- probably the most highly skilled played of the lot, could play any position on the ground.
Ricciuto- poor mans Voss ;)

Na, he's a waikerie bloke. hate those pricks :lol:
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Re: Rank the 4 contemporary HOF inductees..

Postby whufc » Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:06 pm

Bum Crack wrote:
whufc wrote:
Bum Crack wrote:If Roo played for one of the big three Melbourne teams, most would have him number 1. 8 All Australians, Brownlow Medal, B&F's and u still rate him as 4 :roll: I don't think people really understand the leadership qualities of the guy. half back, half forward, guts, full forward. he had it all. he's my number 1 in that lot.


No riverland bias there either hey BC,
Buckley Number 1 for me, carried the biggest football club in Australia for many years.
Voss- 3x premiership captain hey, enough said
Hird- probably the most highly skilled played of the lot, could play any position on the ground.
Ricciuto- poor mans Voss ;)

Na, he's a waikerie bloke. hate those pricks :lol:


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Re: Rank the 4 contemporary HOF inductees..

Postby Dogwatcher » Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:43 pm

Bum Crack wrote:
whufc wrote:
Bum Crack wrote:If Roo played for one of the big three Melbourne teams, most would have him number 1. 8 All Australians, Brownlow Medal, B&F's and u still rate him as 4 :roll: I don't think people really understand the leadership qualities of the guy. half back, half forward, guts, full forward. he had it all. he's my number 1 in that lot.


No riverland bias there either hey BC,
Buckley Number 1 for me, carried the biggest football club in Australia for many years.
Voss- 3x premiership captain hey, enough said
Hird- probably the most highly skilled played of the lot, could play any position on the ground.
Ricciuto- poor mans Voss ;)

Na, he's a waikerie bloke. hate those pricks :lol:


How come you're always drinking with them?

For mine - Hird is about my favourite all time player (after John Platten). He had everything, could play just about any position, was inspirational and freakish. He did the normal and then did the sublime.
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Re: Rank the 4 contemporary HOF inductees..

Postby Leaping Lindner » Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:14 pm

Can't separate Hird and Buckley.

Who is Voss and Ricciuto????

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Re: Rank the 4 contemporary HOF inductees..

Postby Felch » Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:23 pm

1) Voss - if you look up the term 'inside player', there is a picture of him. Played all his footy right in the thick of the battle
2) Ricciuto - about a millimetre behind Voss, how he managed to squeeze 300+ games with his game style astounds me.
3) Hird - at his very best, the best player of all these, but didnt play at that level for long enough.
4) Buckley - unbelievable skills, and champion player but chuck a ball in the middle of these 4 guys and he is least likely to win it.

Really though, we are splitting hairs - all absolute champions.
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Re: Rank the 4 contemporary HOF inductees..

Postby New Era » Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:57 pm

Bum Crack wrote:If Roo played for one of the big three Melbourne teams, most would have him number 1. 8 All Australians, Brownlow Medal, B&F's and u still rate him as 4 :roll: I don't think people really understand the leadership qualities of the guy. half back, half forward, guts, full forward. he had it all. he's my number 1 in that lot.
Good point BC, he probably would be but Voss didn't play down there either.

I'll go

1. Voss
2. Hird
3. Roo
4. Buckley

Interestingly though, the HOF has many criteria to meet beyond ability to kick and catch and of those 4, Buckley raised the ire of the VFL/AFL when he almost refused to play for the Bears (I don't like the draft but the rules are the rules) and only agreed to play for them on the promise they cleared him to Collingwood at the years end.

He was young I know but hardly honourable
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