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Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

Postby Psyber » Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:00 pm

Booney wrote:
Psyber wrote:I reckon the Power may have won a couple more premierships if the administration had listened to the sponsor in 2003, and got someone who would weed out a few front runners and revise the game plan...
Sponsor said "Port will never win a premiership under Mark Williams". Alan Scott, was wrong.

Revise the game plan,hmmm? So how does the game plan of one side differ to any other in the modern game, for that matter at any point during the history of the game?

Most sides play a very similar style, some have the playing group to execute the style and some dont.

Front runners,hmmm. So in 2001/2/3/4 when we were top or thereabouts who would be the "frontrunners" then? Like most sides when on top of the table you have what could be termed frontrunners, they are in front more often than not afterall.

Booney, Alan Scott was only "wrong" because 'Bucky' Cunningham stepped in to placate Alan Scott, and modified Choco's approach somewhat in 2004.

In the 2000s, my wife followed her family connections and supported Port Adelaide in the AFL, even though she hadn't at SANFL level.
She got to the point she couldn't continue to watch every time they got a couple of goals in front and then went ultra-defensive yet again - both before and after 2004.
She was proved right in her gloomy expectations of that style more often than not.

I shared my wife's frustration because I supported her supporting them - except against the Crows.
I feel the same way about the Crows when they adopt the same crazy approach, and go completely defensive, loose the impetus that got them in front, and get run over.
The Crows seem to have had a bad dose of it this year, and of course they have also followed, lately, Choco's tendency to play the "stars" fit or not.
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Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

Postby Booney » Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:29 am

Believe me, I did and still get as frustrated as anyone when we go defensive, mind you 2010 hasn't seen anywhere near as much of it.

Perhaps Williams knew he didnt have the cattle in 08-09 to play ultra attacking football and history will show that without Tredrea up forward we struggle. 08 Tredders had knee problems and 2010 the ankle. Problem is this is probably ( perhaps this time off might give other parts of his body enough rest to go around one more time ) his last season and we dont appear to have a ready made replacement. Mind you, multiple B&F, AA, and premiership Captains that play CHF for over 250 games are hard to replace.

I think people need to judge Williams in conjunction with list assesment of our playing group of the last 5 years.
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Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

Postby Barto » Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:14 am

Wedgie wrote:I hope he stays at the Power forever! :D


It's fantastic isn't it? I reckon he should be allowed to break Sheedy's record at the least.
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Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

Postby Booney » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:37 am

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Wedgie wrote:I hope he stays at the Power forever! :D


It's fantastic isn't it? I reckon he should be allowed to break Sheedy's record at the least.


With one premiership already under his belt, if he is to stay another 19 years he could well challenge Sheedy's record. ;) :lol:
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Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

Postby Drop Bear » Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:18 am

Quichey wrote: Only problem is your forward line, no potency or strong leading targets at the moment.


No potency?? I think you're forgetting a little someone named, Justin Westhoff!! :lol:
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Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:56 pm

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Quichey wrote: Only problem is your forward line, no potency or strong leading targets at the moment.


No potency?? I think you're forgetting a little someone named, Justin Westhoff!! :lol:


Yes, he's a powerhouse isn't he? :)

I really don't care, and I may be wrong, but I just get the feeling Port Adelaide struggle with the idea of life after the Cahill/Williams era, and are clutching onto past glories for as long as they can.
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Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

Postby Farmy » Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:37 pm

Just wait to Westhoff bulks up, hes only 18 isn't he? ;)
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Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

Postby Ruben Carter » Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:39 am

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
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Quichey wrote: Only problem is your forward line, no potency or strong leading targets at the moment.


No potency?? I think you're forgetting a little someone named, Justin Westhoff!! :lol:


Yes, he's a powerhouse isn't he? :)

I really don't care, and I may be wrong, but I just get the feeling Port Adelaide struggle with the idea of life after the Cahill/Williams era, and are clutching onto past glories for as long as they can.

Yeah that's a great point...After all, the great clubs of the comp always change their coaches every 6 months don't they ????
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Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

Postby the wonder elephant » Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:54 am

Booney wrote:
Psyber wrote:I reckon the Power may have won a couple more premierships if the administration had listened to the sponsor in 2003, and got someone who would weed out a few front runners and revise the game plan...


Sponsor said "Port will never win a premiership under Mark Williams". Alan Scott, was wrong.

Revise the game plan,hmmm? So how does the game plan of one side differ to any other in the modern game, for that matter at any point during the history of the game?

Most sides play a very similar style, some have the playing group to execute the style and some dont.

Front runners,hmmm. So in 2001/2/3/4 when we were top or thereabouts who would be the "frontrunners" then? Like most sides when on top of the table you have what could be termed frontrunners, they are in front more often than not afterall.

Have to agree there Boon it allgood having a good game plan but you have to have the cattle to execute it which clearly the power or the crows for that matter do not .
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Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

Postby NO-MERCY » Sat Jun 12, 2010 1:10 pm

the wonder elephant wrote:
Booney wrote:
Psyber wrote:I reckon the Power may have won a couple more premierships if the administration had listened to the sponsor in 2003, and got someone who would weed out a few front runners and revise the game plan...


Sponsor said "Port will never win a premiership under Mark Williams". Alan Scott, was wrong.

Revise the game plan,hmmm? So how does the game plan of one side differ to any other in the modern game, for that matter at any point during the history of the game?

Most sides play a very similar style, some have the playing group to execute the style and some dont.

Front runners,hmmm. So in 2001/2/3/4 when we were top or thereabouts who would be the "frontrunners" then? Like most sides when on top of the table you have what could be termed frontrunners, they are in front more often than not afterall.

Have to agree there Boon it allgood having a good game plan but you have to have the cattle to execute it which clearly the power or the crows for that matter do not .




Early in the year Port were sprouting off once again.
The talk of a top 4 finish, how much tougher they are, what Laidleys brought to the club etc........
What a crock of sh!t, nothings changed. :Hangman:
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Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

Postby Barto » Sat Jun 12, 2010 1:58 pm

Has an AFL listed player ever won a Farmer Medal?
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Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:36 pm

Barto wrote:Has an AFL listed player ever won a Farmer Medal?


Scott Hodges (1994, 1996) and Adam Richardson (2001)
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Re: Seriously - When will Choco get the Rs

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:41 pm

Ruben Carter wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:
Drop Bear wrote:
Quichey wrote: Only problem is your forward line, no potency or strong leading targets at the moment.


No potency?? I think you're forgetting a little someone named, Justin Westhoff!! :lol:


Yes, he's a powerhouse isn't he? :)

I really don't care, and I may be wrong, but I just get the feeling Port Adelaide struggle with the idea of life after the Cahill/Williams era, and are clutching onto past glories for as long as they can.

Yeah that's a great point...After all, the great clubs of the comp always change their coaches every 6 months don't they ????


No, but they don't stick with players from their own club as coaches forever and ever. Roos and Worsfold are coming to and end, and they've won flags after Williams did.
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