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Re: the 'buddy' franklin report & suspension

Postby Booney » Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:59 pm

MatteeG wrote:
Booney wrote:What Cousins did has nothing in the slightest to do with the fact Franklin hit him in the head...


Yep, Buddy should have dropped to his knees before delivering the bump so as not to get him high. :roll:

Explain oh wise Boon how Maxwell got off earlier in the year? At least Franklin hit the guy with the ball.

And I would be feeling the same way if it was Ben Cousins who hit Franklin in the same manner. Disgraceful decision.


I mentioned earlier I dont agree with the current rule, but in an attempt to be consistent ( bar the Maxwell stuff up ) it was worthy of a weeks suspension.
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Re: the 'buddy' franklin report & suspension

Postby hawkseye » Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:07 pm

So Barry Hall gets 2 weeks for punching Rutten which means Buddys bump is on par with that?
Cant wait to go to Elizabeth Saturday night and see some proper Aussie rules played.
Dont get me wrong but i love the AFL and the Hawks but 1 by 1 the AFL in their wisdom are getting rid of the special elements of our game.
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Re: the 'buddy' franklin report & suspension

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:05 pm

Did the Richmond player who decked Michael Osborne off the ball straight afterwards get any matches?
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Re: the 'buddy' franklin report & suspension

Postby Ripdschitlaz » Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:14 pm

A shocking decision for mine, but one that doesn't surprise me considering the way the game has been going in recent history.
The game is definately losing it's appeal IMHO. :(
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Re: the 'buddy' franklin report & suspension

Postby hawkseye » Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:15 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:Did the Richmond player who decked Michael Osborne off the ball straight afterwards get any matches?

Havent heard anything about that?
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Re: the 'buddy' franklin report & suspension

Postby Ripdschitlaz » Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:15 pm

Ripdschitlaz wrote:A shocking decision for mine, but one that doesn't surprise me considering the way the game has been going in recent history.
The game is definately losing it's appeal IMHO. :(

AFL that is. I have watched some great local footy this year. :D
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Re: the 'buddy' franklin report & suspension

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:34 pm

demonseye wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:Did the Richmond player who decked Michael Osborne off the ball straight afterwards get any matches?

Havent heard anything about that?


Nope, and you won't. The irony of Buddy's case is that the umpires have been quick to penalise him for anything this year, and yet they didn't even pay a free against Buddy for a high tackle, let alone report him for it.

The only reason the matter was singled out by the MRC was because Cousins took awhile to get up after an accidental contact to the head (which, by the way, is not evident in the replay).

Straight afterwards, a Richmond player (don't know who but he had blonde hair walked up to Osborne and belted him. The umpire saw it, and went to to talk to the player, no report. Osborne took just as long as Cousins to get up off the floor, but no report. I wonder why.

No, I don't wonder why, I know why. Because the Richmond player wasn't Buddy, and Osborne wasn't Cousins. If Buddy got 2 for trying to apply a bump to the man with the ball, an off-the-ball incident should have been worth 6, but not a word has been said about it.

And for anyone who thinks I'm making it up, there's plenty of footage of it on the Internet.
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Re: the 'buddy' franklin report & suspension

Postby gadj1976 » Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:08 pm

If Maxwell's bump can be thrown out, Buddy's should certainly be as well. Cousins fumbled the ball momentarily, opening him up and putting him in a position to be bumped or tackled.

Maxwell ran past the ball and hit McGinnity I think it was in a deliberate attempt to take him out of the immediate play. The actual contact caused a broken jaw.

Not even similar incidents, but the precedent was set with Maxwell's and therefore Buddy's should be thrown out pretty much immediately.
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Re: the 'buddy' franklin report & suspension

Postby bayman » Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:11 pm

Stumps wrote:Not a great decision but if you gave up your footy park membership just becuse of that sort of thing thats just hilarious


not just that, it is the fact that they (not all teams) were playing 'keepings off, trying not to lose rather than trying to win, kicking backwards & so on....the bottom line though it is now completely ballet` footy & i don't enjoy it & as i wasn't enjoying it & getting boored as were the others...why should/would i keep forking out to watch something that was mainly booring ?
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Re: the 'buddy' franklin report & suspension

Postby Wedgie » Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:58 pm

gadj1976 wrote:If Maxwell's bump can be thrown out, Buddy's should certainly be as well. Cousins fumbled the ball momentarily, opening him up and putting him in a position to be bumped or tackled.

Maxwell ran past the ball and hit McGinnity I think it was in a deliberate attempt to take him out of the immediate play. The actual contact caused a broken jaw.

Not even similar incidents, but the precedent was set with Maxwell's and therefore Buddy's should be thrown out pretty much immediately.


The hit looked the same but there was a difference in that McGinnity didn't have the ball therefore Maxwell didn't have the choice to tackle him or not, they're cracking down on the ball carrier. I don't agree with it, but that's the difference the AFL probably found with it, some would argue hitting a guy off the ball is a worse offence. I wouldn't argue too strenously with that.
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Re: the 'buddy' franklin report & suspension

Postby gadj1976 » Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:10 pm

Wedgie wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:If Maxwell's bump can be thrown out, Buddy's should certainly be as well. Cousins fumbled the ball momentarily, opening him up and putting him in a position to be bumped or tackled.

Maxwell ran past the ball and hit McGinnity I think it was in a deliberate attempt to take him out of the immediate play. The actual contact caused a broken jaw.

Not even similar incidents, but the precedent was set with Maxwell's and therefore Buddy's should be thrown out pretty much immediately.


The hit looked the same but there was a difference in that McGinnity didn't have the ball therefore Maxwell didn't have the choice to tackle him or not, they're cracking down on the ball carrier. I don't agree with it, but that's the difference the AFL probably found with it, some would argue hitting a guy off the ball is a worse offence. I wouldn't argue too strenously with that.


So are you saying Buddy should get off then?
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Re: the 'buddy' franklin report & suspension

Postby Wedgie » Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:30 pm

gadj1976 wrote:
Wedgie wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:If Maxwell's bump can be thrown out, Buddy's should certainly be as well. Cousins fumbled the ball momentarily, opening him up and putting him in a position to be bumped or tackled.

Maxwell ran past the ball and hit McGinnity I think it was in a deliberate attempt to take him out of the immediate play. The actual contact caused a broken jaw.

Not even similar incidents, but the precedent was set with Maxwell's and therefore Buddy's should be thrown out pretty much immediately.


The hit looked the same but there was a difference in that McGinnity didn't have the ball therefore Maxwell didn't have the choice to tackle him or not, they're cracking down on the ball carrier. I don't agree with it, but that's the difference the AFL probably found with it, some would argue hitting a guy off the ball is a worse offence. I wouldn't argue too strenously with that.


So are you saying Buddy should get off then?


No, Im just explaining how the AFL might look at it. All I'm saying is the Franklin and Maxwell incidents were different because Maxwell didn't have the choice of laying a tackle as the bloke didn't have the ball. Not saying its wrong or right, just pointing out the differencs.
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Re: the 'buddy' franklin report & suspension

Postby hawkseye » Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:03 am

Didnt the AFL change the wording of a rule after the Maxwell incident so that sort of thing doesnt get overturned again?
Im sure something like that happened even though they are seperate incidents i fear Buddy wont have this one turned around.
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Re: the 'buddy' franklin report & suspension

Postby dedja » Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:07 am

demonseye wrote:Didnt the AFL change the wording of a rule after the Maxwell incident so that sort of thing doesnt get overturned again?


Correct ... the wording of the current law is a direct result of the Maxwell incident.
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Re: the 'buddy' franklin report & suspension

Postby LMA » Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:47 am

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Re: the 'buddy' franklin report & suspension

Postby Johno6 » Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:01 am

didnt maxwell break the guys jaw??
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Re: the 'buddy' franklin report & suspension

Postby hawkseye » Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:18 pm

What about if he is found guilty again can Hawthorn do Carlton/Greg Williams style and go to the courts? This would allow him to play this week wouldnt it?
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Re: the 'buddy' franklin report & suspension

Postby Reddeer » Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:25 pm

This is a discussing result. Franklin shouldn't have even been charged let alone suspended.
Soccer will soon be ruling the world and Aussie Rules chiefs are shooting themselves in the foot.
Lets hope that someone on the appeals board has some common sense regards to the game as it should be played. Not Marshmallow stuff!!!
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Re: the 'buddy' franklin report & suspension

Postby RoosterMarty » Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:32 pm

Reddeer wrote:This is a discussing result. Franklin shouldn't have even been charged let alone suspended.
Soccer will soon be ruling the world and Aussie Rules chiefs are shooting themselves in the foot.
Lets hope that someone on the appeals board has some common sense regards to the game as it should be played. Not Marshmallow stuff!!!


It already does rule the world I'd say...
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Re: the 'buddy' franklin report & suspension

Postby Reddeer » Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:02 pm

It probably doesn't rule Australia yet but it will soon with decisions like this one!!
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