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Re: Dean Solomon how many weeks?

Postby rod_rooster » Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:50 pm

pafc1870 wrote:
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Mr66 wrote:8-10
Hall got seven (correctly)for Stakers hit but didn't break anything.
Soloman should get more for the injury to Ling.


Absolute crap. The fact that Hall king hit a bloke behind the play is far worse than what Solomon did. I am not for 1 second defending Solomon because it was a dog act but Hall's was worse. The AFL Tribunal was weak with their sentence on Hall and will now have to give Solomon less than he deserves as a result. The difference between injuries is just pure luck. Had Hall connected in a slightly different spot he could have killed Staker and had Solomon hit in a slightly different spot Ling could have got up with nothing but a headache. The intent is what you have to base the penalty on and whilst i think Solomon should get 8 - 10 weeks it cannot happen when a worse incident only got 7.


I have never heard more crap in my life :roll:


What do you mean? Do you disagree that Hall's punch on Staker could have killed him had it connected in a slightly different spot? Could the elbow of Solomon hit Ling in a different spot and not caused as much damage? The reverse could also be applied. Do you disagree with this?

My point is that both incidents were bad but the fact that Hall king hit a bloke miles off the ball with plenty of time to think compared to Solomon who made a split second decision makes Hall's much worse. Solomon's hit was a disgrace don't get me wrong.
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Re: Dean Solomon how many weeks?

Postby JK » Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:06 pm

Take a pill Rod ... You've stated your opinion cleary, would be nice if you afforded other posters the same opportunity.
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Re: Dean Solomon how many weeks?

Postby rod_rooster » Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:08 pm

Constance_Perm wrote:Take a pill Rod ... You've stated your opinion cleary, would be nice if you afforded other posters the same opportunity.


Others have stated their opinion as well. I am not saying they shouldn't. I am merely backing up my opinion. I'm not sure exactly how i am not affording other posters the same opportunity :?
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Re: Dean Solomon how many weeks?

Postby Booney » Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:55 pm

rod_rooster wrote:[
The fact that Hall king hit a bloke


Using this term to describe Halls hit on Staker has been used by many in and out of the media.I have,and do consider a 'King hit' to have been delivered from behind the unsuspecting victim.Hall was in front of Staker and spun around and clocked him.Nothing on you here Rod,just my opinion.

Solomon will get 5,maybe 6.
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Re: Dean Solomon how many weeks?

Postby rod_rooster » Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:03 pm

Booney wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:[
The fact that Hall king hit a bloke


Using this term to describe Halls hit on Staker has been used by many in and out of the media.I have,and do consider a 'King hit' to have been delivered from behind the unsuspecting victim.Hall was in front of Staker and spun around and clocked him.Nothing on you here Rod,just my opinion.

Solomon will get 5,maybe 6.


Yep, i can argue against an opinion. Whatever term that is used to describe what Hall did it was a cowardly act and one that he should be ashamed of. The fact he is a repeat offender says a lot about his character IMHO. Either way i agree with 5-6 games for Solomon.
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Re: Dean Solomon how many weeks?

Postby Rotter » Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:10 pm

Booney wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:[
The fact that Hall king hit a bloke


Using this term to describe Halls hit on Staker has been used by many in and out of the media.I have,and do consider a 'King hit' to have been delivered from behind the unsuspecting victim.Hall was in front of Staker and spun around and clocked him.Nothing on you here Rod,just my opinion.

Solomon will get 5,maybe 6.
I agree Booney, a king hit in my eyes is one from behind. Somebody else drew a comparison between Bickleys hit on Wakelin but there is a distinct difference. Bickley hit Wakelin with the pointy end of the elbow with his wing extended, Solomon did with the side of his elbow. The way I look at it is whilst his act will be dealt with accordingly, it shouldn't be any more than 6 IMHO of course.
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Re: Dean Solomon how many weeks?

Postby hearts on fire » Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:18 pm

Here is the Mark Bickley hit on Darryl Wakelin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vYGKG6yl3k

I think that is much worse than Dean Solomon's but Bickley only got a five match suspension.
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Re: Dean Solomon how many weeks?

Postby rod_rooster » Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:28 pm

hearts on fire wrote:Here is the Mark Bickley hit on Darryl Wakelin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vYGKG6yl3k

I think that is much worse than Dean Solomon's but Bickley only got a five match suspension.


How many games did Lockett get for smashing Caven's face in? That was worse than Bickley, Solomon and Hall's combined :shock:
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Re: Dean Solomon how many weeks?

Postby Rotter » Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:44 pm

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hearts on fire wrote:Here is the Mark Bickley hit on Darryl Wakelin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vYGKG6yl3k

I think that is much worse than Dean Solomon's but Bickley only got a five match suspension.


How many games did Lockett get for smashing Caven's face in? That was worse than Bickley, Solomon and Hall's combined :shock:
Rod, you're talking out of your ass, Locket played in a time albeit not that long ago that didn't judge his act in the same manner as we do now. Compare apples with apples man. Even if Solomon gets more than Bickley that doesn't mean it's viewed worse than Bickleys because the tribunal guidlines for punishment are far more stringent than even that short time ago.
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Re: Dean Solomon how many weeks?

Postby rod_rooster » Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:49 pm

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rod_rooster wrote:
hearts on fire wrote:Here is the Mark Bickley hit on Darryl Wakelin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vYGKG6yl3k

I think that is much worse than Dean Solomon's but Bickley only got a five match suspension.


How many games did Lockett get for smashing Caven's face in? That was worse than Bickley, Solomon and Hall's combined :shock:
Rod, you're talking out of your ass, Locket played in a time albeit not that long ago that didn't judge his act in the same manner as we do now. Compare apples with apples man. Even if Solomon gets more than Bickley that doesn't mean it's viewed worse than Bickleys because the tribunal guidlines for punishment are far more stringent than even that short time ago.


Sorry Rotter i was being a bit tongue in cheek there :wink: By the way Lockett got 8 weeks.
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Re: Dean Solomon how many weeks?

Postby Rotter » Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:59 pm

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rod_rooster wrote:
hearts on fire wrote:Here is the Mark Bickley hit on Darryl Wakelin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vYGKG6yl3k

I think that is much worse than Dean Solomon's but Bickley only got a five match suspension.


How many games did Lockett get for smashing Caven's face in? That was worse than Bickley, Solomon and Hall's combined :shock:
Rod, you're talking out of your ass, Locket played in a time albeit not that long ago that didn't judge his act in the same manner as we do now. Compare apples with apples man. Even if Solomon gets more than Bickley that doesn't mean it's viewed worse than Bickleys because the tribunal guidlines for punishment are far more stringent than even that short time ago.


Sorry Rotter i was being a bit tongue in cheek there :wink:
I wasn't sure. I just think that because we don't see Solomons type of act as much as we once did that we get a little more enotional about it when we do. After the Buddy Franklin thing one of the tv stations showed some samples of the bumps handed out by Mark Ricciuto in the year he won the Brownlow and one of them wasn't that far removed from Solomons.
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Re: Dean Solomon how many weeks?

Postby rod_rooster » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:16 pm

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rod_rooster wrote:Sorry Rotter i was being a bit tongue in cheek there :wink:
I wasn't sure. I just think that because we don't see Solomons type of act as much as we once did that we get a little more enotional about it when we do. After the Buddy Franklin thing one of the tv stations showed some samples of the bumps handed out by Mark Ricciuto in the year he won the Brownlow and one of them wasn't that far removed from Solomons.


I am in no way agreeing with Solomon's hit but i think the punishments handed out recently have been a bit too harsh. The Franklin example is a good one. If he missed out on a Brownlow (not that he will get near it anyway) for that it would be ridiculous. Same goes for several of the ineligible players this year. The AFL has lost the plot. Anyway that's off topic so sorry.
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Re: Dean Solomon how many weeks?

Postby bayman » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:36 pm

well don't just have your say as our sponsors sportsbet are betting on it

6 weeks or under $2.15
7,8 weeks $1.85
9 weeks plus $6.00

i'm thinking of backing the 9 weeks plus(value bet) as i'd think the afl would want to stamp some authority on this especially after barry halls 2 indiscretions
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Re: Dean Solomon how many weeks?

Postby rod_rooster » Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:44 pm

bayman wrote:well don't just have your say as our sponsors sportsbet are betting on it

6 weeks or under $2.15
7,8 weeks $1.85
9 weeks plus $6.00

i'm thinking of backing the 9 weeks plus(value bet) as i'd think the afl would want to stamp some authority on this especially after barry halls 2 indiscretions


They'd look pretty silly if they give Solomon a worse penalty than Hall. Wouldn't be surprised though. Hall should have got a lot worse penalty than he did.
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Re: Dean Solomon how many weeks?

Postby FootyWiz81 » Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:02 pm

does it matter games or no games Freo arnt going to win another game while he is there so its a punishment at that haha...

he was only going for the red target like in Darts and Archery and all.. Aim for the Red. Dean shud play darts while Barry shud be a Boxer.. all settled haha
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Re: Dean Solomon how many weeks?

Postby Wedgie » Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:52 am

rod_rooster wrote:
bayman wrote:well don't just have your say as our sponsors sportsbet are betting on it

6 weeks or under $2.15
7,8 weeks $1.85
9 weeks plus $6.00

i'm thinking of backing the 9 weeks plus(value bet) as i'd think the afl would want to stamp some authority on this especially after barry halls 2 indiscretions


They'd look pretty silly if they give Solomon a worse penalty than Hall. Wouldn't be surprised though. Hall should have got a lot worse penalty than he did.


I disagree, IMHO an elbow is a much more dangerous weapon than a fist.
They'd look pretty silly if they gave him less a penalty especially if he has points already hanging over his head.
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Re: Dean Solomon how many weeks?

Postby Rik E Boy » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:20 am

Suspensions too good for him. Hang the Dog. :evil:

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Re: Dean Solomon how many weeks?

Postby Booney » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:21 am

Bah! Get over it.

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Re: Dean Solomon how many weeks?

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:08 am

If Solomon MEANT to do it, then suspend him for 10. If he DIDN'T mean it, then he shouldn't be allowed to play again because he obviously has nasty tendencies he can't control and will probably re-offend.

I have no doubt Harvey worked his players into a lather to come out and expose what he perceives to be a weakness in Geelong's make-up, so he should also be held responsible for what happened. For many years coaches have walked away unscathed having instructed players to behave in a certain manner ... or more to the point ... sending players out to eliminate certain players.
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Re: Dean Solomon how many weeks?

Postby MatteeG » Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:31 pm

LOL- If Geelong have a weakness it certainly isnt their toughness- 2 inferior sides have tried to rough em up to no avail.
Next 2 weeks should bring some cracking footy. Really looking forward to the hawks having a go at the cats. It'll tell us where we are at.

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