Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby sydney-dog » Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:56 am

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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby CUTTERMAN » Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:00 am

It was suggested on 5AA that it might be a good idea to raise the draft age to 18 so these kids can finish their schooling. It must put alot of pressure on them to make a decision on their future while trying to get through their last couple of years of school. It would give them a chance to play more league games in the SANFL, might make it easier for Recruiting Managers to judge them by also. Wasn't this the issue with Pavlich at 17?
On Dangerfield, it says something good about his character that he wants to finish his schooling first, sounds like he's got his head screwed on at least, it also says something about Adelaide helping him to do this, I'm sure his parents appreciate it and probably respect the club for doing so, it would help build the relationship for all parties for the future, which after all is what the draft is all about.
Whether they should've picked Ebert, only time will tell.
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby CUTTERMAN » Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:04 am

Just a thought, how does this affect the SANFL mini draft. A club picks him and don't get his services for a year??? Or does he go into the mini draft next year when he'll be in SA???
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby sydney-dog » Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:14 am

CUTTERMAN

In Sydney, Paul Roos has been very outspoken about the draft age, he wants all clubs to lobby the AFL to increase the age to 18....

Not to many kids play AFL at 17
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby Whitelinefever » Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:31 am

This Dangerfield lad , is he any relation to Rodney :lol: :lol:

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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby Wedgie » Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:50 am

Whitelinefever wrote:But I have seen a bit of Brett Ebert,looked a very likely type, should fit in well at WC, and be a good player for years to come.
Cheers 8)


When did Port Power delist him?? :shock:
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby Westsider » Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:34 pm

Arent there schools in Adelaide?

Move him here, move his family here, hell move his 3 girlfriends here. He can finish school here and at least the crows can train him the way they want to?

Oh hang on, its Neil Craig, just send the kid a stationary bike and a laptop. Let him stay in Vic and he'll still get the training the Crows get now.
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby Whitelinefever » Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:00 pm

You know what I meant, just a brain fade :oops: :shock:
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby rogernumber10 » Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:40 pm

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:After reading this thread, Dangerfield - he gets no respect....

=D> =D> =D> =D>
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby NFC » Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:05 pm

sydney-dog wrote:Who is to say, if Adelaide picked up Ebert, that he too would not want to return home, that is to Port Adelaide, Ebert said earlier in the year, "Port is the greatest club in Australia, their will always be a desire to continue the family name at Port"

Say if we drafted him and 5 years later he did want to return to Port, I think we would've got pretty decent compensation!

sydney-dog wrote:At pick 10, the crows went for the best footballer availabe, IMO Dangerfield is a better footballer than Ebert, by all reports he has a fantastic character and I have no fears of the kid wanting to return home one day, this kid will play 200 games for the AFC....

You would like to think all top 10 draftees will play 200 games, figures show its unlikely. I guess time will tell, lets hope he can.

sydney-dog wrote:In regards to Dangerfield wanting to remain in Geelong in 2008 to finish year 12, this shows the kids maturity, he will complete pre-season with the club, play for Geelong Falcons and some SANFL next season, people have over cooked this issue, in reality, as a 17 year old, he may of had an opprtunity to play couple of games next year, he certainly would not of shaped our season

That's not really the point is it? Why not opt out of the draft this year and then nominate next year? Can't have it both ways, other clubs weren't prepared to take this risk except for the team who could least afford to take it.
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby NFC » Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:07 pm

Westsider wrote:Arent there schools in Adelaide?

Move him here, move his family here, hell move his 3 girlfriends here. He can finish school here and at least the crows can train him the way they want to?

Oh hang on, its Neil Craig, just send the kid a stationary bike and a laptop. Let him stay in Vic and he'll still get the training the Crows get now.

I must admit that's pretty funny. :lol:
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby Rushby Hinds » Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:45 pm

sydney-dog wrote:NFC

what about your gun player Pfieffer ??, you remember, the player the crows had no idea about and sacked....

who picked him up today ? :shock:



I wouldn't put any $$ on it, but I'm 90% confident that the bloke I saw in Rundle Street last Saturday night having a beer and a smoke(!) may well have been the infamous Mr Pfeiffer.

No surprises if it was.
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby Pup » Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:01 pm

I really dont think unless you have seen both players play a lot, that you can really think you know more about the upsides of both players than the recruiters do you?

I Have seen a bit of Dangerfield and i think he is going to be a very good player, As a WCE man obviously i am over the moon to snare Ebert at 13. We will not know if the Adelaide football club made the right decision until probably 3-4 years so time will tell.

On the school issue, i realise that he wants to stay with mates and at home while finishing his VCE but i still find it a little strange, i would have thought the AFC would make sure he fits in really well no matter where he went. Personally i would have happily moved to do my VCE if it meant playing AFL but it shows a certain amount of maturity IMO, He obviously realises that football is not the be all and end all.
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby Hondo » Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:19 pm

Pup wrote:I really dont think unless you have seen both players play a lot, that you can really think you know more about the upsides of both players than the recruiters do you?


Of course not .... great post I wish I had said it myself

=D> =D>

They've seen Ebert play but know nothing about Dangerfield and then assume a big error and start a Royal Commission :roll:

An interstater reading this thread would simply think this is South Aust bias to them Ebert & Dangerfield would be the same - good young juniors and we'll know in 3-4 years as you say
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby dash61 » Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:32 pm

P Dangerfield @ Nos.13

If this one and a few of the others dont go the way expected, it might be for the Adelaide Crows to completely re-build their recruiting team. By todays paper and the clubs own comments how many project players can you have.
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby sydney-dog » Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:52 pm

FFS, one moment we are too old and the list is stagnant, next minute the club has too many project players

honestly, what a joke
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby sydney-dog » Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:56 pm

and if Dangerfield turns out to be a gun, don't worry we wont be watting for an applause, we all know that most of you will already be looking for the next stone to cast....
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby magpie in the 80's » Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:54 pm

ADELAIDE top pick Patrick Dangerfield is eyeing a year one the road, but says he could not be happier after being snapped up by the Crows in yesterday's national draft.

The son of teachers, Dangerfield will spend part of the pre-season with Adelaide this summer before returning to Geelong to finish his last year of school.

Interspersed will be weekends and school holidays in Adelaide and time catching up with his new club when it is in Melbourne, while also continuing to play football with the Geelong Falcons in the Victorian under-18 competition.

"I'm over the moon," Dangerfield said. "Adelaide, it's very much like Geelong – a country, seaside town.

"I love my fishing and surfing which Adelaide has a huge amount of. They (my parents) are very supportive of it."

Dangerfield said his decision to delay the move to Adelaide was largely because of the help he would receive from his parents in his last year of school.

"My parents are both teachers and it was mainly about having them as tutors every night. That's a huge benefit and that was a driving factor."

It will be some year for Dangerfield, and one without immediate return for the Crows. But Adelaide's recruiting men believe he is such a rare talent he is worth the wait.

"He put his school first and we respect that," Adelaide coach Neil Craig said. "We had known that for some months."


But Craig said Dangerfield would stay close to the club, not just through the pre-season but travelling to Dubai with the Crows.

He may also be able to fit in some SANFL games.

Recruiting manager Matt Rendell said the Crows had laboured over the decision to take Dangerfield over local lad Brad Ebert, but had rated Dangerfield as high as No.3 in the draft.

"We see him as the prototype for AFL footballers for the next 15 years," Rendell said. "He's the right height at 6ft 2in, quick, strong and brave and has been clean in his ball handling.

"He is fantastic in his character traits with a lot of humility and empathy. We had him as No.3 and Brad Ebert as No.7."

Later yesterday, Dangerfield was back in Victoria, celebrating with family and friends in the coastal town of Anglesea.
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby carey18 » Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:58 pm

Blue Boy wrote:Listened to Matt Rendell on radio and the crows rated Dangerfield as the third pick in the draft and actually at one stage had him @ 2 !!! :shock:

He also went on to say that all the lads that the crows picked today they rated in the top 31 picks in the darft !!!

If they have got it correct I will be stoked - im gonna leave it @ that for the moment !!!

Yeah because we all no how well the Crows recuriting team have gone over the last few years!
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Re: Pick 10 P.Dangerfield vs Pick 13 B.Ebert

Postby Dutchy » Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:43 pm

My question - How does he expect to play some SANFL footy? in school holidays?...no team is going to let him play Seniors without a commitment to a full season surely?
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