Essendon

[stan]

Idiots, it will end in tears ...

Was always going to

Jim mate, I just don't think think this will end well for your boys.

[philcas]

The Sanctions have to be given in this otherwise anyone else caught will just go down the same way this has by declaring they were told it was ok & plead ignorant. It can not be just pushed under the carpet it has to be delt with now or our sport will always be seen as forever corrupt

[cracka]

The Sanctions have to be given in this otherwise anyone else caught will just go down the same way this has by declaring they were told it was ok & plead ignorant. It can not be just pushed under the carpet it has to be delt with now or our sport will always be seen as forever corrupt

Then the person who told them it was OK (it would have to be someone qualified eg Doctor or sports scientist) should get jail time. It's more that this whole process has been a shambles IMO.

[NO-MERCY]

Carolyn Wilson believes Hird will never coach Essendon again.
What does she know that we don't?
She's been spot on with the whole Esendon saga from day 1.

[kickinit]

Personally have had enough of this debacle from ASADA. Would be happy for

no sanctions against any players, I believe they were lied to by people that should know better & have some ignorance as a defence

Danks to never be allowed to work in Australia as a sports scientist again

although I'm a fan of Hird he needs to take some responsibility & be banned from coaching for a while.

The club has already been fined & were removed from last years finals so that enough punishment IMO.

Time to move on.

Debacle from ASADA? No one would be stupid enough to employee Danks again, then again not so smart probably would. Hird should be banned for life. The club has not been given enough punishment, they have lied the entire way through this and everyone involved should be handed life sentences.

[Jim05]

Personally have had enough of this debacle from ASADA. Would be happy for

no sanctions against any players, I believe they were lied to by people that should know better & have some ignorance as a defence

Danks to never be allowed to work in Australia as a sports scientist again

although I'm a fan of Hird he needs to take some responsibility & be banned from coaching for a while.

The club has already been fined & were removed from last years finals so that enough punishment IMO.

Time to move on.

Debacle from ASADA? No one would be stupid enough to employee Danks again, then again not so smart probably would. Hird should be banned for life. The club has not been given enough punishment, they have lied the entire way through this and everyone involved should be handed life sentences.

If found guilty then I agree

[Jim05]

Carolyn Wilson believes Hird will never coach Essendon again.
What does she know that we don't?
She's been spot on with the whole Esendon saga from day 1.

Ive said all along if even 1 player is banned Hird should never coach again.
Caro is in the know thanks to her corrupt mate Andy D, anyone that thinks the AFL doesnt drip feed info to people is kidding themselves

[daysofourlives]

Carolyn Wilson believes Hird will never coach Essendon again.
What does she know that we don't?
She's been spot on with the whole Esendon saga from day 1.

Ive said all along if even 1 player is banned Hird should never coach again.
Caro is in the know thanks to her corrupt mate Andy D, anyone that thinks the AFL doesnt drip feed info to people is kidding themselves

If Essendon didnt do anything wrong there would be nothing for the so called corrupt Demetriou to drip feed.
FFS Essendon need to stop shifting the blame and take responsibility.
How much are Essendon paying Dank to shut up would be the only corruption question i would be asking?

[Jim05]

Carolyn Wilson believes Hird will never coach Essendon again.
What does she know that we don't?
She's been spot on with the whole Esendon saga from day 1.

Ive said all along if even 1 player is banned Hird should never coach again.
Caro is in the know thanks to her corrupt mate Andy D, anyone that thinks the AFL doesnt drip feed info to people is kidding themselves

If Essendon didnt do anything wrong there would be nothing for the so called corrupt Demetriou to drip feed.
FFS Essendon need to stop shifting the blame and take responsibility.
How much are Essendon paying Dank to shut up would be the only corruption question i would be asking?

I dont just mean our situation Days.
Caro always seems to have the stories well in advance, she knew Melbourne's penalty weeks in advance aswell. I think everyone knows Andy has been leaking info to her for years.
As for Dank, the club want him to face the music, if everything was legit like he constantly claims it would be our benefit for him to be questioned. Him staying silent does our case no good potentially

[kickinit]

I dont just mean our situation Days.
Caro always seems to have the stories well in advance, she knew Melbourne's penalty weeks in advance aswell. I think everyone knows Andy has been leaking info to her for years.
As for Dank, the club want him to face the music, if everything was legit like he constantly claims it would be our benefit for him to be questioned. Him staying silent does our case no good potentially

I think everyone knew what was going on. The Doc knew it wasn't legit and questioned it but the club continued to go a long with. It also wouldn't of been hard to find out from ASADA.

[Jim05]

I dont just mean our situation Days.
Caro always seems to have the stories well in advance, she knew Melbourne's penalty weeks in advance aswell. I think everyone knows Andy has been leaking info to her for years.
As for Dank, the club want him to face the music, if everything was legit like he constantly claims it would be our benefit for him to be questioned. Him staying silent does our case no good potentially

I think everyone knew what was going on. The Doc knew it was legit and questioned it but the club continued to go a long with. It also wouldn't of been hard to find out from ASADA.

I just find it staggering that the key player in all this hasnt been questioned. Dank got his show cause notice weeks ago and is refusing to answer it, he was threatened with a decent fine for each day he didnt co-operate with the investigation yet he still wont talk. Whatever the outcome id like to hear him have his say and cop some punishment aswell

[kickinit]

I dont just mean our situation Days.
Caro always seems to have the stories well in advance, she knew Melbourne's penalty weeks in advance aswell. I think everyone knows Andy has been leaking info to her for years.
As for Dank, the club want him to face the music, if everything was legit like he constantly claims it would be our benefit for him to be questioned. Him staying silent does our case no good potentially

I think everyone knew what was going on. The Doc knew it was legit and questioned it but the club continued to go a long with. It also wouldn't of been hard to find out from ASADA.

I just find it staggering that the key player in all this hasnt been questioned. Dank got his show cause notice weeks ago and is refusing to answer it, he was threatened with a decent fine for each day he didnt co-operate with the investigation yet he still wont talk. Whatever the outcome id like to hear him have his say and cop some punishment aswell

I think everyone does. But two point to this

1- Do you think he would ever tell the truth
2- Do you think anyone would be stupid enough to employee him again

I don't think ASADA have him high on their priority list. For these 2 simple points.

[Jim05]

I listened to McDevitt today and things dont sound flash. I cant understand how he can offer 6 month bans for players who fess up, wouldnt think WADA would be happy with that. The most important thing he said though was that AOD9604 was deemed legal at the time and the players would escape any penalty from using it. The TB4 on the other hand sounds worrying

[Jim05]

I dont just mean our situation Days.
Caro always seems to have the stories well in advance, she knew Melbourne's penalty weeks in advance aswell. I think everyone knows Andy has been leaking info to her for years.
As for Dank, the club want him to face the music, if everything was legit like he constantly claims it would be our benefit for him to be questioned. Him staying silent does our case no good potentially

I think everyone knew what was going on. The Doc knew it was legit and questioned it but the club continued to go a long with. It also wouldn't of been hard to find out from ASADA.

I just find it staggering that the key player in all this hasnt been questioned. Dank got his show cause notice weeks ago and is refusing to answer it, he was threatened with a decent fine for each day he didnt co-operate with the investigation yet he still wont talk. Whatever the outcome id like to hear him have his say and cop some punishment aswell

I think everyone does. But two point to this

1- Do you think he would ever tell the truth
2- Do you think anyone would be stupid enough to employee him again

I don't think ASADA have him high on their priority list. For these 2 simple points.

Yeah true, just sucks that he looks like getting away scot free

[dedja]

I listened to McDevitt today and things dont sound flash. I cant understand how he can offer 6 month bans for players who fess up, wouldnt think WADA would be happy with that. The most important thing he said though was that AOD9604 was deemed legal at the time and the players would escape any penalty from using it. The TB4 on the other hand sounds worrying

WADA are backing ASADA 100%

[Jim05]

I listened to McDevitt today and things dont sound flash. I cant understand how he can offer 6 month bans for players who fess up, wouldnt think WADA would be happy with that. The most important thing he said though was that AOD9604 was deemed legal at the time and the players would escape any penalty from using it. The TB4 on the other hand sounds worrying

WADA are backing ASADA 100%

Really?
I thought WADA was pushing for 2 year bans, didnt think they would be happy with only 6 month bans

[kickinit]

I listened to McDevitt today and things dont sound flash. I cant understand how he can offer 6 month bans for players who fess up, wouldnt think WADA would be happy with that. The most important thing he said though was that AOD9604 was deemed legal at the time and the players would escape any penalty from using it. The TB4 on the other hand sounds worrying

Handing out 6months bans to anyone coming forward is pretty smart. If they handed good enough evidence it could see the others that don't come forward have not hope in winning a appeal.

[dedja]

I listened to McDevitt today and things dont sound flash. I cant understand how he can offer 6 month bans for players who fess up, wouldnt think WADA would be happy with that. The most important thing he said though was that AOD9604 was deemed legal at the time and the players would escape any penalty from using it. The TB4 on the other hand sounds worrying

WADA are backing ASADA 100%

Really?
I thought WADA was pushing for 2 year bans, didnt think they would be happy with only 6 month bans

That's what is being reported ... 6 month bans that must be taken during the season.

[Jim05]

I listened to McDevitt today and things dont sound flash. I cant understand how he can offer 6 month bans for players who fess up, wouldnt think WADA would be happy with that. The most important thing he said though was that AOD9604 was deemed legal at the time and the players would escape any penalty from using it. The TB4 on the other hand sounds worrying

Handing out 6months bans to anyone coming forward is pretty smart. If they handed good enough evidence it could see the others that don't come forward have not hope in winning a appeal.

Thats the bit I dont get. If their evidence is as strong as they say it is wouldnt it be better to rub drug cheats out for 2 years?
Why give them an easy way out?

[dedja]

Because they know the club faarked up, not the players, but being ignorant isn't an excuse.