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Re: Port Adelaide 2022

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:41 am
by Booney
Brodlach wrote:Hype is there because it seems like they moved on Ladhams to get Hayes in


Not really, several reasons Ladhams was moved on and whilst having Hayes on the list as back up was one it wasn't the only one.

In 2018 we had Hayes, Ladhams, Frampton, Dixon, Howard, Westhoff, Marshall and Ryder on the list, far too many talls I think.

Our list with Lycett 29, Hayes 22 and Visentini 19 as the pure rucks looks more balanced with Finlayson, Dixon as back up and Marshall, Skinner and Aliir if we really needed too.

Re: Port Adelaide 2022

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:43 am
by Vamos
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Hype is there because it seems like they moved on Ladhams to get Hayes in

I thought they moved Ladhams on for attitudinal reasons?


I thought it was for shit haircuts

Re: Port Adelaide 2022

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:48 am
by Booney
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Hype is there because it seems like they moved on Ladhams to get Hayes in

I thought they moved Ladhams on for attitudinal reasons?


In part, our recruiting and list management haven't got much wrong in recent years when it comes to recruiting, developing or deciding it's time to move someone on. Ladhams had 5 years on the list for 32 games and 21 goals, time to change things up.

I'll go back as far as Shaun Burgoyne, he was a gun with us and a gun at the Hawks, since then name a player that has left Port and become a better player at their next club? I trust the list management team to have got this one right too.

Re: Port Adelaide 2022

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:51 am
by Lightning McQueen
Vamos wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:I thought they moved Ladhams on for attitudinal reasons?


I thought it was for shit haircuts


Who's hair was he cutting? Certainly wasn't Kenny's.

Re: Port Adelaide 2022

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:18 am
by Vamos
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Vamos wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:I thought they moved Ladhams on for attitudinal reasons?


I thought it was for shit haircuts


Who's hair was he cutting? Certainly wasn't Kenny's.


:lol: Clearly his own, snipping around the mixing bowl on the head was a doozie.

Re: Port Adelaide 2022

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:20 am
by Vamos
Booney wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Hype is there because it seems like they moved on Ladhams to get Hayes in

I thought they moved Ladhams on for attitudinal reasons?


In part, our recruiting and list management haven't got much wrong in recent years when it comes to recruiting, developing or deciding it's time to move someone on. Ladhams had 5 years on the list for 32 games and 21 goals, time to change things up.

I'll go back as far as Shaun Burgoyne, he was a gun with us and a gun at the Hawks, since then name a player that has left Port and become a better player at their next club? I trust the list management team to have got this one right too.


Good call, I'm struggling to think of any. Wingard has had some good patches but not like his form with us around 2014.

Re: Port Adelaide 2022

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:34 am
by Booney
Vamos wrote:
Booney wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Brodlach wrote:Hype is there because it seems like they moved on Ladhams to get Hayes in

I thought they moved Ladhams on for attitudinal reasons?


In part, our recruiting and list management haven't got much wrong in recent years when it comes to recruiting, developing or deciding it's time to move someone on. Ladhams had 5 years on the list for 32 games and 21 goals, time to change things up.

I'll go back as far as Shaun Burgoyne, he was a gun with us and a gun at the Hawks, since then name a player that has left Port and become a better player at their next club? I trust the list management team to have got this one right too.


Good call, I'm struggling to think of any. Wingard has had some good patches but not like his form with us around 2014.


13 - AA, 43 goals, BnF
14 - 43 goals
15 - AA, 53 goals

Not even close.

Re: Port Adelaide 2022

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:40 am
by The Bedge
Booney wrote:I'll go back as far as Shaun Burgoyne, he was a gun with us and a gun at the Hawks, since then name a player that has left Port and become a better player at their next club? I trust the list management team to have got this one right too.

Genuinely good call - went back and looked over all the names, everyone who was traded or left hasn't had a consistent impact at their new club, or lasted long.. Danyle Pearce at Freo maybe?

Trengove
Young
Lobbe
Pittard
Wingard
Hombsch
Ryder
Polec
O'Shea
Jacobs

Re: Port Adelaide 2022

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:40 am
by Lightning McQueen
Booney wrote:


I'll go back as far as Shaun Burgoyne, he was a gun with us and a gun at the Hawks, since then name a player that has left Port and become a better player at their next club? I trust the list management team to have got this one right too.

Ian Downsborough averaged 3.9 disposals per game with us and then went on to average 5.5 then 7 in his next two seasons @ the Crows.

Re: Port Adelaide 2022

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:54 am
by Booney
The Bedge wrote:
Booney wrote:I'll go back as far as Shaun Burgoyne, he was a gun with us and a gun at the Hawks, since then name a player that has left Port and become a better player at their next club? I trust the list management team to have got this one right too.

Genuinely good call - went back and looked over all the names, everyone who was traded or left hasn't had a consistent impact at their new club, or lasted long.. Danyle Pearce at Freo maybe?

Trengove
Young
Lobbe
Pittard
Wingard
Hombsch
Ryder
Polec
O'Shea
Jacobs


I wouldn't think Pearce played his career best football at Fremantle, was a sound contributor for them but he didn't get any better after he left.

Re: Port Adelaide 2022

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:35 am
by MW
Impey?

Re: Port Adelaide 2022

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:58 am
by Lightning McQueen
MW wrote:Impey?

Verdict is still out, his form has been impressive at Hawthorn, will it be sustained?

Re: Port Adelaide 2022

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 12:04 pm
by Booney
MW wrote:Impey?


Perhaps, like Pearce though maybe much of a muchness, hasn't really gone to the next level.

Re: Port Adelaide 2022

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:50 pm
by UK Fan
MW wrote:Impey?


Impey is The player he threatened to be when he was at the power now he’s at the hawks


Dougal Howard has been great for st Kilda 3rd and 7th in B&F last two seasons.

Ryder still dominating but hasn’t improved as such

Brent guerra improved at hawks after leaving port imho

Will Snelling has improved at bombers

Jon Giles improved at GWS ,Essendon West Coast

Ben Jacobs become Roos number run with midfielder after leaving port

Ackland better at st Kilda French better at Carlton nick lower .......



All clubs Would have players that have improved elsewhere. To suggest it doesn’t happen after they leave Alberton is fanciful

Re: Port Adelaide 2022

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:51 pm
by tnt
Delisted Joel Patfull (end 2004) . Won the Lions B & F 2012

Re: Port Adelaide 2022

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 1:56 pm
by Wedgie
Too far back but Tom Harley went alright. ;)

Re: Port Adelaide 2022

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:00 pm
by Lightning McQueen
Wedgie wrote:Too far back but Tom Harley went alright. ;)

Dwayne Russell?

Re: Port Adelaide 2022

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:05 pm
by Booney
UK Fan wrote:
MW wrote:Impey?


Impey is The player he threatened to be when he was at the power now he’s at the hawks


Dougal Howard has been great for st Kilda 3rd and 7th in B&F last two seasons.

Ryder still dominating but hasn’t improved as such

Brent guerra improved at hawks after leaving port imho

Will Snelling has improved at bombers

Jon Giles improved at GWS ,Essendon West Coast

Ben Jacobs become Roos number run with midfielder after leaving port

Ackland better at st Kilda French better at Carlton nick lower .......



All clubs Would have players that have improved elsewhere. To suggest it doesn’t happen after they leave Alberton is fanciful


Welcome back little guy, fancy a Port topic bringing you out of the shadows. :lol:

I'd only gone back 15 years, given the discussion is about the list management now I didn't think I'd need to go back too far but given your infatuation for Port Adelaide I can see why you've gone back further.

Guerra - left in 2003, but, fair call, became a better player then.
Ryder - AA with Port, has he been with St Kilda?
Howard and Impey could both have better careers at their new clubs.

LOL, Snelling, Giles, Ackland, Lower and French were all spuds and remained so.

Re: Port Adelaide 2022

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:05 pm
by Booney
Wedgie wrote:Too far back but Tom Harley went alright. ;)


:lol:

Re: Port Adelaide 2022

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:12 pm
by Lightning McQueen
Booney wrote:
UK Fan wrote:
MW wrote:Impey?


Impey is The player he threatened to be when he was at the power now he’s at the hawks


Dougal Howard has been great for st Kilda 3rd and 7th in B&F last two seasons.

Ryder still dominating but hasn’t improved as such

Brent guerra improved at hawks after leaving port imho

Will Snelling has improved at bombers

Jon Giles improved at GWS ,Essendon West Coast

Ben Jacobs become Roos number run with midfielder after leaving port

Ackland better at st Kilda French better at Carlton nick lower .......



All clubs Would have players that have improved elsewhere. To suggest it doesn’t happen after they leave Alberton is fanciful


Welcome back little guy, fancy a Port topic bringing you out of the shadows. :lol:

I'd only gone back 15 years, given the discussion is about the list management now I didn't think I'd need to go back too far but given your infatuation for Port Adelaide I can see why you've gone back further.

Guerra - left in 2003, but, fair call, became a better player then.
Ryder - AA with Port, has he been with St Kilda?
Howard and Impey could both have better careers at their new clubs.

LOL, Snelling, Giles, Ackland, Lower and French were all spuds and remained so.


Twinging a long desperate bow with that lot hey? :lol: :lol: