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Re: Carlton

Postby amber_fluid » Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:48 pm

Jim05 wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
Arch44 wrote:Just go back to Ratten, no one does done any better since him any way.


It’s what I would do!
Seriously.

The club should swallow their egos and pride, **** SOS off and get Ratten back.

The way he was treated why would he go back. Hope he tells them to jam it sideways


A part of me does also.
But given what Ratten has been through since then with his family he may see things differently these days.
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Re: Carlton

Postby carey » Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:33 pm

Corona Man wrote:Amber to coach the Blues next season!



Can’t have a Power supporter coach another club
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Re: Carlton

Postby woodublieve12 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:33 pm

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Re: Carlton

Postby Corona Man » Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:04 pm

carey wrote:
Corona Man wrote:Amber to coach the Blues next season!



Can’t have a Power supporter coach another club

From what I could make out, Bolton was not a blues fan.
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Re: Carlton

Postby amber_fluid » Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:25 pm

carey wrote:
Corona Man wrote:Amber to coach the Blues next season!



Can’t have a Power supporter coach another club


And I’d have to take a pay cut from my current job.
No deal!
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Re: Carlton

Postby therisingblues » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:58 pm

Arch44 wrote:Just go back to Ratten, no one has does done any better since him any way.
I think the coach they replaced Ratten with has ensured the club isn't going to do better with anyone for quite some time.
Malthouse was success repellent to Carlton. Two cultures that completely grated against each other.
I reckon we're not too far off mixing it up with the best again.
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Re: Carlton

Postby gadj1976 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:03 pm

8 coaches in 19 years
3 sackings in 7 years (1 by Kernahan (Ratten), 2 by Lagoudice (Malthouse and Bolton))

So what do we do now? I hear people say we have a sh1t list or a great list that any coach would want. Discussions with moving on SOS are just ridiculous.

Given we need an experienced coach but any coach that comes in will have pick 12ish to start with.

I think Lagoudice needs to go now. It really pisses me off that we get half way through a plan and become impatient and then in one day, 5 years of planning gets turned on their heads.

Bolts, what a great bloke. I saw the presser. At the end, when he got up to leave he said "thanks Prez". What a legend. All the best to him, hopefully he gets an assistant role at a decent club.
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Re: Carlton

Postby Jase » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:14 pm

gadj1976 wrote:8 coaches in 19 years
3 sackings in 7 years (1 by Kernahan (Ratten), 2 by Lagoudice (Malthouse and Bolton))

So what do we do now? I hear people say we have a sh1t list or a great list that any coach would want. Discussions with moving on SOS are just ridiculous.

Given we need an experienced coach but any coach that comes in will have pick 12ish to start with.

I think Lagoudice needs to go now. It really pisses me off that we get half way through a plan and become impatient and then in one day, 5 years of planning gets turned on their heads.

Bolts, what a great bloke. I saw the presser. At the end, when he got up to leave he said "thanks Prez". What a legend. All the best to him, hopefully he gets an assistant role at a decent club.
I reckon it will almost be certain that Bolts will get an assistant coaches role... he is amazing with the young players as a mentor/counselor, I just think the Head Coaches role was a bridge to far..

All the best Bolts...

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Re: Carlton

Postby stan » Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:18 pm

gadj1976 wrote:8 coaches in 19 years
3 sackings in 7 years (1 by Kernahan (Ratten), 2 by Lagoudice (Malthouse and Bolton))

So what do we do now? I hear people say we have a sh1t list or a great list that any coach would want. Discussions with moving on SOS are just ridiculous.

Given we need an experienced coach but any coach that comes in will have pick 12ish to start with.

I think Lagoudice needs to go now. It really pisses me off that we get half way through a plan and become impatient and then in one day, 5 years of planning gets turned on their heads.

Bolts, what a great bloke. I saw the presser. At the end, when he got up to leave he said "thanks Prez". What a legend. All the best to him, hopefully he gets an assistant role at a decent club.
There is a bit to work with on the list. But my word you have let too much senior experience go.

Henderson, Touhy and Robinson for example. Not great players on there own but honest players, senior players, bigger bodied players.

Just as an example.
Read my reply. It is directed at you because you have double standards
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Re: Carlton

Postby Booney » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:55 am

gadj1976 wrote:8 coaches in 19 years
3 sackings in 7 years (1 by Kernahan (Ratten), 2 by Lagoudice (Malthouse and Bolton))

So what do we do now? I hear people say we have a sh1t list or a great list that any coach would want. Discussions with moving on SOS are just ridiculous.

Given we need an experienced coach but any coach that comes in will have pick 12ish to start with.

I think Lagoudice needs to go now. It really pisses me off that we get half way through a plan and become impatient and then in one day, 5 years of planning gets turned on their heads.

Bolts, what a great bloke. I saw the presser. At the end, when he got up to leave he said "thanks Prez". What a legend. All the best to him, hopefully he gets an assistant role at a decent club.


Hang on, LaGiudice said they're sticking to the path they've gone down in yesterday's presser ( not that they have any choice to be honest ) but it's not with Bolton.

Don't expect things to get better any time soon.

Who Carlton has brought in :
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Re: Carlton

Postby MW » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:07 am

Keep SOS at your peril...
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Re: Carlton

Postby stan » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:14 am

Booney wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:8 coaches in 19 years
3 sackings in 7 years (1 by Kernahan (Ratten), 2 by Lagoudice (Malthouse and Bolton))

So what do we do now? I hear people say we have a sh1t list or a great list that any coach would want. Discussions with moving on SOS are just ridiculous.

Given we need an experienced coach but any coach that comes in will have pick 12ish to start with.

I think Lagoudice needs to go now. It really pisses me off that we get half way through a plan and become impatient and then in one day, 5 years of planning gets turned on their heads.

Bolts, what a great bloke. I saw the presser. At the end, when he got up to leave he said "thanks Prez". What a legend. All the best to him, hopefully he gets an assistant role at a decent club.


Hang on, LaGiudice said they're sticking to the path they've gone down in yesterday's presser ( not that they have any choice to be honest ) but it's not with Bolton.

Don't expect things to get better any time soon.

Who Carlton has brought in :
From the traded in from other clubs there is really only Settlefield, Newman and McGovern that stack up.

What would be interesting is a full list of players traded out or left under FA.
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Re: Carlton

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:19 am

stan wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:8 coaches in 19 years
3 sackings in 7 years (1 by Kernahan (Ratten), 2 by Lagoudice (Malthouse and Bolton))

So what do we do now? I hear people say we have a sh1t list or a great list that any coach would want. Discussions with moving on SOS are just ridiculous.

Given we need an experienced coach but any coach that comes in will have pick 12ish to start with.

I think Lagoudice needs to go now. It really pisses me off that we get half way through a plan and become impatient and then in one day, 5 years of planning gets turned on their heads.

Bolts, what a great bloke. I saw the presser. At the end, when he got up to leave he said "thanks Prez". What a legend. All the best to him, hopefully he gets an assistant role at a decent club.
There is a bit to work with on the list. But my word you have let too much senior experience go.

Henderson, Touhy and Robinson for example. Not great players on there own but honest players, senior players, bigger bodied players.

Just as an example.


Nothing wrong with any of those players on their own. Henderson can't stay on the park though poor bugger. Touhy has been an awesome acquisition for the Cats but is struggling to get going this year after an interupted pre-season. Robbo is all heart and a great get for the Lions.

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Re: Carlton

Postby Booney » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:43 am

stan wrote:What would be interesting is a full list of players traded out or left under FA.


I'm sure we can cobble a list together :

Robinson, Touhy, Henderson, Betts, Jacobs, Bell, Yarran, Troy Menzel, Gibbs, Hampson, Waite, Garlett, Grigg.
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Re: Carlton

Postby Brodlach » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:45 am

That’s a pretty ordinary list
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Re: Carlton

Postby mots02 » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:52 am

Booney wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:8 coaches in 19 years
3 sackings in 7 years (1 by Kernahan (Ratten), 2 by Lagoudice (Malthouse and Bolton))

So what do we do now? I hear people say we have a sh1t list or a great list that any coach would want. Discussions with moving on SOS are just ridiculous.

Given we need an experienced coach but any coach that comes in will have pick 12ish to start with.

I think Lagoudice needs to go now. It really pisses me off that we get half way through a plan and become impatient and then in one day, 5 years of planning gets turned on their heads.

Bolts, what a great bloke. I saw the presser. At the end, when he got up to leave he said "thanks Prez". What a legend. All the best to him, hopefully he gets an assistant role at a decent club.


Hang on, LaGiudice said they're sticking to the path they've gone down in yesterday's presser ( not that they have any choice to be honest ) but it's not with Bolton.

Don't expect things to get better any time soon.

Who Carlton has brought in :


Hope the next coach is well stocked with this

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Re: Carlton

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:00 am

Booney wrote:
stan wrote:What would be interesting is a full list of players traded out or left under FA.


I'm sure we can cobble a list together :

Robinson, Touhy, Henderson, Betts, Jacobs, Bell, Yarran, Troy Menzel, Gibbs, Hampson, Waite, Garlett, Grigg.

We've gotta put the team up in positional order.


F: Betts Kennedy Menzel
HF: Bell Waite Garlett
C: Yarran Gibbs Gowers
HB: Henderson ???? Hampson
B: Touhy ???? ????
R: Jacobs Grigg Robinson
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Re: Carlton

Postby mots02 » Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:02 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Booney wrote:
stan wrote:What would be interesting is a full list of players traded out or left under FA.


I'm sure we can cobble a list together :

Robinson, Touhy, Henderson, Betts, Jacobs, Bell, Yarran, Troy Menzel, Gibbs, Hampson, Waite, Garlett, Grigg.

We've gotta put the team up in positional order.


F: Betts Kennedy Menzel
HF: Bell Waite Garlett
C: Yarran Gibbs ????
HB: Henderson ???? Hampson
B: Touhy ???? ????
R: Jacobs Grigg Robinson


Coach: Ratten
Ass Coach: Malthouse
Runner: Bolton
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Re: Carlton

Postby Mr Beefy » Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:10 am

mots02 wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Booney wrote:
stan wrote:What would be interesting is a full list of players traded out or left under FA.


I'm sure we can cobble a list together :

Robinson, Touhy, Henderson, Betts, Jacobs, Bell, Yarran, Troy Menzel, Gibbs, Hampson, Waite, Garlett, Grigg.

We've gotta put the team up in positional order.


F: Betts Kennedy Menzel
HF: Bell Waite Garlett
C: Yarran Gibbs ????
HB: Henderson ???? Hampson
B: Touhy ???? ????
R: Jacobs Grigg Robinson


Coach: Ratten
Ass Coach: Malthouse
Runner: Bolton

Fill up the spots with some of these
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Re: Carlton

Postby beef » Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:13 am

I'd say 90% of that team was gone before SOS
Betts still playing, Kennedy Still playing Menzel SANFL
Bell ?? Waite retired Garlett still playing (mainly VFL)
Yarran Jail Gibbs Still playing (half SANFL for 2 first rounders)
Henderson still playing (always injured surprisingly) Hampson delisted
Touhy still playing
Jacobs still playing (prob last year) Grigg retired Robinson still playing (probably in jail beating up people at music festivals if still at carlton)
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