Collingwood v Adelaide - Semi Final

[Booney]

I may have to get onto the power board and start up a topic even though i dont support them and have no real interest in either loving or hating them - it sounds like a fun way of doing things

So only Crow fans can come in here and discuss the game?

[Gingernuts]

I may have to get onto the power board and start up a topic even though i dont support them and have no real interest in either loving or hating them - it sounds like a fun way of doing things

So only Crow fans can come in here and discuss the game?

I think everyone's just a bit tired and emotional on here at the moment Booney.

[silicone skyline]

I may have to get onto the power board and start up a topic even though i dont support them and have no real interest in either loving or hating them - it sounds like a fun way of doing things

So only Crow fans can come in here and discuss the game?

I think everyone's just a bit tired and emotional on here at the moment Booney.

[Booney]

I may have to get onto the power board and start up a topic even though i dont support them and have no real interest in either loving or hating them - it sounds like a fun way of doing things

So only Crow fans can come in here and discuss the game?

I think everyone's just a bit tired and emotional on here at the moment Booney.

The voice of reason....

[Hondo]

Sure we have many concerns but I think you will find this is the Adelaide board discussing Adelaide based issues, like Saturday nights loss for instance and the list managment decisions ahead as well as the coaches ability to do well in September.

What did you think of Hentschel and Porplyzia being played behind the ball during the third quarter on Saturday night? Craig rarely plays behind the ball like that and for mine it went against everything he has done for the last month.

Hentschell went down back v Essendon as well. I think he's done it most games since he's been back.

Porps wasn't "behind the ball" as such, he was playing midfield. He started in the middle at the start of the 3rd quarter. He had hardly touched it up forward in the first half so it seemed to me to be a legitamate move to get him into the game. Tippett was also moved on the ball late in the 3rd quarter. I don't think it's too alarming if they were in the back half at times while they were on the ball, especially towards the end of Q3 when we needed to stop the bleeding.

As much as NC critics want to read too much into things and focus on these alleged defensive tactics that lost us the game, the fact is it only started late in Q3 and ironically it actually worked! Collingwood's run was stopped and for the last 5 minutes of that quarter it looked like the 1st half. I haven't yet seen anything sensible that can be pinned on NC or the assistants for this one. Well, nothing that had a bigger impact than the players disappearing for 20 minutes.

[aceman]

When a coaching group that are collecting more than $1.5 million pa between them won't admit that they f^cked up bigtime on Sat night!!!
If they admit they are still "all learning" from their mistakes, pay them as "learners" until such time as they actually do "learn".
Same errors every time doesn't instill much faith in NC or his mates for me.

[overloaded]

As much as NC critics want to read too much into things and focus on these alleged defensive tactics that lost us the game, the fact is it only started late in Q3 and ironically it actually worked! Collingwood's run was stopped and for the last 5 minutes of that quarter it looked like the 1st half. I haven't yet seen anything sensible that can be pinned on NC or the assistants for this one. Well, nothing that had a bigger impact than the players disappearing for 20 minutes.

Same sh!t, different year Hondo. The man cannot coach in finals, it is as simple as that. We will not premiership with him at the helm.

[silicone skyline]

As much as NC critics want to read too much into things and focus on these alleged defensive tactics that lost us the game, the fact is it only started late in Q3 and ironically it actually worked! Collingwood's run was stopped and for the last 5 minutes of that quarter it looked like the 1st half. I haven't yet seen anything sensible that can be pinned on NC or the assistants for this one. Well, nothing that had a bigger impact than the players disappearing for 20 minutes.

Same sh!t, different year Hondo. The man cannot coach in finals, it is as simple as that. We will not premiership with him at the helm.

One bounce of the football and we would have won.

[Hondo]

As much as NC critics want to read too much into things and focus on these alleged defensive tactics that lost us the game, the fact is it only started late in Q3 and ironically it actually worked! Collingwood's run was stopped and for the last 5 minutes of that quarter it looked like the 1st half. I haven't yet seen anything sensible that can be pinned on NC or the assistants for this one. Well, nothing that had a bigger impact than the players disappearing for 20 minutes.

Same sh!t, different year Hondo. The man cannot coach in finals, it is as simple as that. We will not premiership with him at the helm.

Rubbish

As SS said - 2 finals in 3 years where we have lost with a kick just before or after the final siren.

Why do we only ever here from you when we lose BTW? I said this to you last year. You should come in the here and post regularly rather than these depressing predictions at the end of each season. I am sure you could add good comments because you seem to know your stuff.

[Rik E Boy]

One bounce of the football and we would have won.

You guys used a year's arse against an Essendon side that neglected to pick a ruckman. Have a look at the bounce of the ball for the first goal against Essendon. Even the commentators said 'even the ball barracks for the Crows'....I'm tipping the other fan was Knighter and the Bomber 'brains' trust for not picking Bellchambers.

It won't go your way all the time Clifford.

regards,

REB

[overloaded]

As much as NC critics want to read too much into things and focus on these alleged defensive tactics that lost us the game, the fact is it only started late in Q3 and ironically it actually worked! Collingwood's run was stopped and for the last 5 minutes of that quarter it looked like the 1st half. I haven't yet seen anything sensible that can be pinned on NC or the assistants for this one. Well, nothing that had a bigger impact than the players disappearing for 20 minutes.

Same sh!t, different year Hondo. The man cannot coach in finals, it is as simple as that. We will not premiership with him at the helm.

Rubbish

As SS said - 2 finals in 3 years where we have lost with a kick just before or after the final siren.

Why do we only ever here from you when we lose BTW?

Hondo, to be 36 points up in 2nd quarter, go defensive, kick 2 goals total in 2nd and 3rd quarter, leave Burton on the ground when he could hardly raise a trot...is that good coaching? is that the sort of coaching you expect as a supporter to see in a final? Is that the sort of football that wins final.....NO.
I do hate whinging about the bloke and to his credit did a fantastic job to salvage what was a shocking start to the year but to blow away a chance to make a GF like that is unforgivable

[aceman]

As much as NC critics want to read too much into things and focus on these alleged defensive tactics that lost us the game, the fact is it only started late in Q3 and ironically it actually worked! Collingwood's run was stopped and for the last 5 minutes of that quarter it looked like the 1st half. I haven't yet seen anything sensible that can be pinned on NC or the assistants for this one. Well, nothing that had a bigger impact than the players disappearing for 20 minutes.

Same sh!t, different year Hondo. The man cannot coach in finals, it is as simple as that. We will not premiership with him at the helm.

One bounce of the football and we would have won.

Oh yeah, and if my auntie had balls, she'd be my uncle

[JK]

Sure we have many concerns but I think you will find this is the Adelaide board discussing Adelaide based issues, like Saturday nights loss for instance and the list managment decisions ahead as well as the coaches ability to do well in September.

What did you think of Hentschel and Porplyzia being played behind the ball during the third quarter on Saturday night? Craig rarely plays behind the ball like that and for mine it went against everything he has done for the last month.

Hentschell went down back v Essendon as well. I think he's done it most games since he's been back.

Porps wasn't "behind the ball" as such, he was playing midfield. He started in the middle at the start of the 3rd quarter. He had hardly touched it up forward in the first half so it seemed to me to be a legitamate move to get him into the game. Tippett was also moved on the ball late in the 3rd quarter. I don't think it's too alarming if they were in the back half at times while they were on the ball, especially towards the end of Q3 when we needed to stop the bleeding.

As much as NC critics want to read too much into things and focus on these alleged defensive tactics that lost us the game, the fact is it only started late in Q3 and ironically it actually worked! Collingwood's run was stopped and for the last 5 minutes of that quarter it looked like the 1st half. I haven't yet seen anything sensible that can be pinned on NC or the assistants for this one. Well, nothing that had a bigger impact than the players disappearing for 20 minutes.

Well said, completely agree mate ... FWIW I thought Porps was very good in the second half.

[Hondo]

Hondo, to be 36 points up in 2nd quarter, go defensive, kick 2 goals total in 2nd and 3rd quarter

We didn't go defensive in the second quarter. In fact, we controlled most of that quarter but kicked badly.

On Burton - on a 30 degree night with one man down it was probably the lesser of 2 evils to keep Burton camped up forward and give the midfielders a breather. don't under-estimate the impact of Knights being injured. That cost us rotations plus a key part of our forward line.

The coaches can't get out their and do the chasing and running themselves nor can they take the set shots. As CP said in the other thread, don't let Pendlebury and Fraser being make us forget that Collingwood are a quality outfit this year. They were always going to come back at some stage. Fact is we weren't that close to the top 4 teams all season, round 1 aside.

There's no doubt things Craigy would do differently in hindsight but, geez, so would Malthouse and his crew in letting the Crows get away to a bolter in a final.

[sapaul]

So only Crow fans can come in here and discuss the game?

yes...

The Crows nest was created for Crows supporters and the Power Board was only created for Power supporters.

[Booney]

we do allow extremely respectful and polite fans of other clubs to join in conversations.

[leftlegger]

i actually posted this on the bye bye burton thread but it seens more appropriate placed in here.

Burton was indeed ordinary on sat night.
If not for the Knights injury, he should have been off the field much earlier.
Sadly I think his time is probably up. Time to put more game time into the likes of Walker, Sloan & Dangerfield etc. They are the future.
He took mark of the year a few weeks ago. Thats probably a good way to go out. He'll go down as one of the great speccy takers of all time.

While I'm at it, I might as well comment on a few other things.

Crows were beat up as favourites by the media. But plenty of us could see they were in for a big fight in the semi. Their past three wins were against undermanned & poor sides, where as Collingwood were (& still are) a genuine premiership contender.
IMO I dont see the 8 day v 6 day break as a huge advantage. Collingwood refused to play players under an injury cloud & went in with all fully fit blokes. When you are young fit & motivated you are ready to play 4 or 5 days after your last game (well i used to be ). Throw in the travelling requirement & the huge support at the ground for the Pies, I thought they went in equal favourites.

Craig is a good coach. Malthouse however IMHO is the best in the business. To inspire his team to respond to their poor start was brilliant. (of course you need the players to pull it off aswell) Losing Knights was a pivotal point. He was on fire up until the injury, & it left the crows unbalanced & they lost his brilliance at the contest in their forward line.

Sure Malthouse may have had the better of the coaching box dual on the night, but Craig still did well & he is still the best man for the Adelaide job.

All in all, Crows season finished up about where it should have. I just couldnt see them beating Collingwood or St Kilda on the G this season in September. But they went bloody close to pinching it, when they looked gone at 3/4 time.

Next year the expectations will be higher.

[overloaded]

Here's a question...how many more finals can Neil Craig lose before he get the chop?
If we lose a winnable finals game again next year then what?

[Footy Smart]

Here's a question...how many more finals can Neil Craig lose before he get the chop?
If we lose a winnable finals game again next year then what?

All this shit about winabble finals favourites/underdogs etc is just that shit ina final its a 2 horse race. 5 goals in today football is far from a sure thing and against a good team with one of the best coaches ever ofcourse they were going to come back. UNfortunatly they snuck over the line and good on them. The players on the field and the coaches in the box could have done no more than what they did. Thats football!

This year has been full of positives and 0 negatives but idiots over react and sack the caock cut the players yada yada yada, for god sake the glass is 3/4 full not bone try like some people here are acting....

GO THE CROWS

[overloaded]

Here's a question...how many more finals can Neil Craig lose before he get the chop?
If we lose a winnable finals game again next year then what?

All this s***t about winabble finals favourites/underdogs etc is just that s***t ina final its a 2 horse race. 5 goals in today football is far from a sure thing and against a good team with one of the best coaches ever ofcourse they were going to come back. UNfortunatly they snuck over the line and good on them. The players on the field and the coaches in the box could have done no more than what they did. Thats football!

This year has been full of positives and 0 negatives but idiots over react and sack the caock cut the players yada yada yada, for god sake the glass is 3/4 full not bone try like some people here are acting....

GO THE CROWS

you didnt answer the question