2016 AFL fixture - due to be released Thurs 29/10/15

[PatowalongaPirate]

The double up game crystal balling can be folly. I'm sure there were supporters at the end of last year doing star jumps when they were "gifted" double up games against the Bulldogs in 2015.

Every year there is at least 2 changes to the top 8 with there being 3 changes this season. There is always a team or 2 that people don't expect to do well that have good/great seasons.

[Spargo]

The thing that gets me is how much harder north and the crows draw is compared with Geelong and port, who didn't finish that much further behind

Time for the 17-5 system I think

At least you get to play all your home games at home, plus 2 away games at home.
Geelong get to kick off the season with a home game against Hawthorn at Hawthorn's home ground.

North get 13 games at Etihad, Crows get 12 at AO but Geelong get 8 at Cat Park

Geelong get a shitload more money playing those home games at the MCG.
They also train on Kardinia Pk every night, none of the tenants at Etihad or the MCG have that advantage.

[Mr Beefy]

The thing that gets me is how much harder north and the crows draw is compared with Geelong and port, who didn't finish that much further behind

Time for the 17-5 system I think

At least you get to play all your home games at home, plus 2 away games at home.
Geelong get to kick off the season with a home game against Hawthorn at Hawthorn's home ground.

North get 13 games at Etihad, Crows get 12 at AO but Geelong get 8 at Cat Park

Geelong get a shitload more money playing those home games at the MCG.
They also train on Kardinia Pk every night, none of the tenants at Etihad or the MCG have that advantage.

Maybe you should have moved to the Gold Coast so you could train on your home ground.
Do we lose money playing home games at Etihad?

[Spargo]

Your missing the point. I'd happily trade "home" games at Etihad for more than 1 game at the MCG.
Maybe when Geelong were spending millions upgrading Kardinia Pk they should've increased capacity by a bit more than 6k, then you could host clubs with larger supporter bases.

[Booney]

Your missing the point. I'd happily trade "home" games at Etihad for more than 1 game at the MCG.
Maybe when Geelong were spending millions upgrading Kardinia Pk they should've increased capacity by a bit more than 6k, then you could host clubs with larger supporter bases.

Says the Kangas supporter with a wise crack...

[bennymacca]

The thing that gets me is how much harder north and the crows draw is compared with Geelong and port, who didn't finish that much further behind

Time for the 17-5 system I think

At least you get to play all your home games at home, plus 2 away games at home.
Geelong get to kick off the season with a home game against Hawthorn at Hawthorn's home ground.

North get 13 games at Etihad, Crows get 12 at AO but Geelong get 8 at Cat Park

That would be Geelongs choice though

[Mr Beefy]

The thing that gets me is how much harder north and the crows draw is compared with Geelong and port, who didn't finish that much further behind

Time for the 17-5 system I think

At least you get to play all your home games at home, plus 2 away games at home.
Geelong get to kick off the season with a home game against Hawthorn at Hawthorn's home ground.

North get 13 games at Etihad, Crows get 12 at AO but Geelong get 8 at Cat Park

That would be Geelongs choice though

Geelong does not want to play home games at Etihad. And im sure they would rather play hawthorn at geelong

[bennymacca]

Fair point about Etihad.
But no way in hell would Geelong wanna play hawthorn at skilled and lose hundreds of thousands

[Mr Beefy]

Fair point about Etihad.
But no way in hell would Geelong wanna play hawthorn at skilled and lose hundreds of thousands

I suspect that is not true.
There was a gap between budgeted and actual returns of $300,000 for two home games at the MCG in 2015. In 2014 we made $150k from hawthorn game but lost that on another game at the MCG (I think against Richmond). Geelong makes more profit at home, and if memory serves me correct, get all profits from catering, bars, etc which they don't at the MCG.

[bennymacca]

Interesting, I thought 60+ at the G would still be worth a lot more than a full house at home. Even so it still makes sense that if a game can draw double the crowd it should be played at the bigger available stadium imo

That they play home games at Etihad is weird though, that doesn't make much sense to me

[Mr Beefy]

Interesting, I thought 60+ at the G would still be worth a lot more than a full house at home.

That they play home games at Etihad is weird though, that doesn't make much sense to me

I think they made a deal years ago, when Docklands stadium was relatively new and haven't been able to wriggle their way out of it since

[Jim05]

Interesting, I thought 60+ at the G would still be worth a lot more than a full house at home.

That they play home games at Etihad is weird though, that doesn't make much sense to me

I think they made a deal years ago, when Docklands stadium was relatively new and haven't been able to wriggle their way out of it since

Don't think they have a deal at Etihad currently but you are right, for a 50k crowd at Etihad clubs make half of what they would at the MCG with the same crowd.
I think Essendon are the only exception who are on a incredible deal at Etihad, think it's a fair bit more than the others

[Mr Beefy]

Interesting, I thought 60+ at the G would still be worth a lot more than a full house at home. Even so it still makes sense that if a game can draw double the crowd it should be played at the bigger available stadium imo

That they play home games at Etihad is weird though, that doesn't make much sense to me

I just found an article that says in 2012 Geelong made $11/head at Etihad, $12/head at MCG and $36/head at Kardinia Park. I think once you pass 50k people at the G, the profits start rolling in.

[bennymacca]

So for hawthorn they would wanna play it at the g but the others probably not

[Mr Beefy]

Winning is more important

[therisingblues]

What are peoples thoughts on the bye before the finals?

Neccessary to stop the bullshit like what happened this year.

Didn't north Melbourne throw their last minor round game this year in order to guarantee an away final in Melbourne rather than in Adelaide? They won't stop that sort of bullshit happening.

[Spargo]

What are peoples thoughts on the bye before the finals?

Neccessary to stop the bullshit like what happened this year.

Didn't north Melbourne throw their last minor round game this year in order to guarantee an away final in Melbourne rather than in Adelaide? They won't stop that sort of bullshit happening.

If North won their last minor round game, they would've played the Western Bulldogs in the first week of finals.
Adelaide gave up any hope of a home final when they lost their game with Geelong.

[nuggety goodness]

What are peoples thoughts on the bye before the finals?

Neccessary to stop the bullshit like what happened this year.

Didn't north Melbourne throw their last minor round game this year in order to guarantee an away final in Melbourne rather than in Adelaide? They won't stop that sort of bullshit happening.

If North won their last minor round game, they would've played the Western Bulldogs in the first week of finals.
Adelaide gave up any hope of a home final when they lost their game with Geelong.

BUT......

Thats because results went the way they did instead ofcthe way everyone had tipped and planned for...

[Wedgie]

Your missing the point. I'd happily trade "home" games at Etihad for more than 1 game at the MCG.
Maybe when Geelong were spending millions upgrading Kardinia Pk they should've increased capacity by a bit more than 6k, then you could host clubs with larger supporter bases.

Its not finished mate, they're still spending millions and the next stage on the members side is being re-developed to further increase capacity, one of the old stands has already been knocked down. The increase by 6k was just one stage and was the smallest parcel of land to build on at Kardinia Park as there's a road on that side.

[stan]

Your missing the point. I'd happily trade "home" games at Etihad for more than 1 game at the MCG.
Maybe when Geelong were spending millions upgrading Kardinia Pk they should've increased capacity by a bit more than 6k, then you could host clubs with larger supporter bases.

Its not finished mate, they're still spending millions and the next stage on the members side is being re-developed to further increase capacity, one of the old stands has already been knocked down. The increase by 6k was just one stage and was the smallest parcel of land to build on at Kardinia Park as there's a road on that side.

Once the upgrades are complete whats the final capacity?