Collingwood v Adelaide - Semi Final

[Courtney Fish]

Ahhhhh...just watched the end of the match again. Nice.

did you see that soft free kick with 50 seconds to go? how much did you pay the umpires?

the free kick was there

The Anthony free kick would be paid 9 times out of 10 definately a free. The Tippett one to get the Crows the lead a minute before, paid 4 out of 10 times at best. Don't blame the umpies.

[the big bang]

Ahhhhh...just watched the end of the match again. Nice.

did you see that soft free kick with 50 seconds to go? how much did you pay the umpires?

watch this clip, and at the 1:15 mark, tell me he wasnt holding his arm.

yes, i am a collingwood man, but anyone that knows anything about football should be able to see that he was holding him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl7zFispmzU

[Psyber]

Yes. I saw it on TV, shown from several angles - the free against Rutten was legitimate. So was the one Tippett got in his favour earlier.
The umpiring was OK. The Crows lost it by panicking when Collingwood got their run on.

[the big bang]

Yes. I saw it on TV, shown from several angles - the free against Rutten was legitimate. So was the one Tippett got in his favour earlier.
The umpiring was OK. The Crows lost it by panicking when Collingwood got their run on.

was a bit intoxicated at this stage, at a mates bucks show in town, and couldnt really remember the free kicks, that's why i looked it up on youtube. couldnt find the tippett one though, dosnt really matter i guess. it's done and dusted.

GO YOU PIES!

[wycbloods]

I thought the crows lost the game in the first 15-20 minutes of the second quarter. AFL footy will always have momentum swings and even more so in a final but when the momentum is with you, you have to make the most of it and if you don't you run the risk of letting the opposition back in, this is what Adelaide did.

The crows should have been up by 8 goals and had the game sewn up at halftime. They dominated so much of the game in the second quarter for 1 goal and that is where they lost it IMHO. The third quarter just showed how important taking your chances are to the outcome of the game.

I thought the umpiring was very good the whole game. Tippet deserved his frees and the Anthony one should be paid every time.

[Hondo]

24 hours on and I'm still shattered

[NFC]

24 hours on and I'm still shattered

I'm the same, I still feel sick about what happened.

This will take some time.

[Booney]

A serious question and one which will play on Adelaides list managment group for the next week or two.

Other than the Essendon game where McLeod fired, where have the 30+ trio of Goodwin,Edwards and McLeod been for the last month?

Perhaps the coach can take some blame but those three along with Johncock IMO didnt stand up when required.

[Stumps]

you really struggle in the game Booney
2 of those 3, goodwin and mcleod have had a super 4 weeks, whereas edwards was probably our best player for the first 15 weeks, with some commentators saying he was in brownlow form!

[dodgingandweaving]

you really struggle in the game Booney
2 of those 3, goodwin and mcleod have had a super 4 weeks, whereas edwards was probably our best player for the first 15 weeks, with some commentators saying he was in brownlow form!

Agreed, typical of Port supporter.

McLeod, Edwards and Johncock all receive pass marks for Sat night.
Johncock had the unenviable task of bringing the ball in against the ridiculous zone Malthouse implemented.

Hate to say it, but Craigy was outcoached when the going got tough. He needs to find a plan C, and i have absolute faith that he will. People calling for his sacking are not right in the head, he has a predominantly young squad + just look at what he did to improve Adelaide's game plan midseason. Find another coach that can do that, but to take Adelaide one kick from a Prelim when all of the experts were predicting Adelaide to miss the 8 is a great achievement. Our future is very bright, lets not forget we won 2 consecutive flags just 10 yrs ago - Now we are knocking right on the door of a third in 2010. Well done Crows, as heartbreaking as it was we have to look at the positives and there are many!!

[Booney]

you really struggle in the game Booney
2 of those 3, goodwin and mcleod have had a super 4 weeks, whereas edwards was probably our best player for the first 15 weeks, with some commentators saying he was in brownlow form!

You telling me Goodwin and Mcleoad were "super" for the last four weeks?

Edwards was good for the first part of the year but where was he Saturday night?

[Stumps]

your allowed to have an average night booney, goodwin has been our best player the last month in my opinion. and mcleod was in the best 3 against carlton and essendon but had a relatively quiet night sat night. I was at the game and when it was tight at the end and we needed some run, i wanted it in one of 3 peoples hands, dangerfield, mckay and mcleod- our 3 best line breakers. Not sure why you are so worried about the crows anyway? surely your boys have a few more concerns?

[Booney]

Sure we have many concerns but I think you will find this is the Adelaide board discussing Adelaide based issues, like Saturday nights loss for instance and the list managment decisions ahead as well as the coaches ability to do well in September.

What did you think of Hentschel and Porplyzia being played behind the ball during the third quarter on Saturday night? Craig rarely plays behind the ball like that and for mine it went against everything he has done for the last month.

[Zorro]

Sure we have many concerns but I think you will find this is the Adelaide board discussing Adelaide based issues, like Saturday nights loss for instance and the list managment decisions ahead as well as the coaches ability to do well in September.

What did you think of Hentschel and Porplyzia being played behind the ball during the third quarter on Saturday night? Craig rarely plays behind the ball like that and for mine it went against everything he has done for the last month.

It was a sign of desperation and had he not made a move the critics would be saying "why didn't he try something in the 3rd qtr to slow the momentum"

[Booney]

Sign of desperation? I think most would consider Craig far too calculated to use desperation as the answer, or indeed that the problem had swelled to that point. I thought Adelaide still was winning enough ball but with limited forward options ( and Burton struggling with OBrien on him ) that trying to score would have been the nest option. My point is Craig rarely does that even when behing in other games, why did he do it on Sat night?

It nearly worked as it slowed Collingwood down for some time but then trying to flick the switch the other way in the last 1/4 was difficult to do.

Not sure if it has been mentioned, but how good was Tippetts goal under enormous pressure from outside 50?

[Zorro]

Well I dunno about Craigy but I was feeling pretty desperate at that stage!!

Good call Booney that goal from Tippett was a gem and had no expectation that he'd kick it.

[Dogwatcher]

It was fantastic. Crows supporters would have been very happy to have won from a free kick at that point.
He did well to ping that.

[dodgingandweaving]

[quote="Booney"]Sign of desperation? I think most would consider Craig far too calculated to use desperation as the answer, or indeed that the problem had swelled to that point. I thought Adelaide still was winning enough ball but with limited forward options ( and Burton struggling with OBrien on him ) that trying to score would have been the nest option. My point is Craig rarely does that even when behing in other games, why did he do it on Sat night?

It nearly worked as it slowed Collingwood down for some time but then trying to flick the switch the other way in the last 1/4 was difficult to do.

Not sure if it has been mentioned, but how good was Tippetts goal under enormous pressure from outside 50?[/quote]

Massive, especially for a guy who has only been kicking a football for a couple of years. And that free kick was there and would be paid every day of the week, not the 4/10 like some peanut said earlier. Clearly a free kick.

[Stumps]

Sign of desperation? I think most would consider Craig far too calculated to use desperation as the answer, or indeed that the problem had swelled to that point. I thought Adelaide still was winning enough ball but with limited forward options ( and Burton struggling with OBrien on him ) that trying to score would have been the nest option. My point is Craig rarely does that even when behing in other games, why did he do it on Sat night?

It nearly worked as it slowed Collingwood down for some time but then trying to flick the switch the other way in the last 1/4 was difficult to do.

Not sure if it has been mentioned, but how good was Tippetts goal under enormous pressure from outside 50?

it was superb, as was thompsons from outside 50. back to hentschel and porp playing behind the ball. I totally agree, i didnt rate it- our forward structure didnt look right, that being said it was only for 15 minutes- hentschel has gone back a number of times- inlcuding our big wins against carlton and essendon so it was mainly porps that i was surprised about.

I may have to get onto the power board and start up a topic even though i dont support them and have no real interest in either loving or hating them - it sounds like a fun way of doing things

[Gingernuts]

A serious question and one which will play on Adelaides list managment group for the next week or two.

Other than the Essendon game where McLeod fired, where have the 30+ trio of Goodwin,Edwards and McLeod been for the last month?

Perhaps the coach can take some blame but those three along with Johncock IMO didnt stand up when required.

I'm gonna have to agree with you there Booney. I wouldn't say the 3 you've named haven't gone 'missing', but they have only been what I would call solid the last few weeks, and they were very average Sat night when it counted.

As much as those players are legends, there is a queue of super talented youngsters itching to get their spot and be far more than just solid players.

I think at least 1 or 2 of them have to take a bullet for the team and make way (include Burton in that). I think it would make a positive statement to the younger group too, that the club is done with resting on it's 97/98 heroes and is now backing them to usher in a new era for the club.