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Re: PAFC 2025

Postby mots02 » Tue Jul 08, 2025 4:27 pm

bertiebeatle1 wrote:
mots02 wrote:List discussion aside, there has to be some concern on the impact Carr can have….. He’s driving the bus now isn’t he?

The forward handball attacking game plan is his…. But only some of the squad seem to be able to execute it consistently.


Hard to tell, one of our worst runs with injuries this year since Ken took over (it is what it is).

2026 - easier draw, hopefully a healthier list & with those two things alone we are likely to rise (how far, not sure). That may blind some general thoughts on whether the coaching has an impact or not next year.

Whether game plan or coaching contributes to that, it is impossible to know at the moment. All i know is 2025 was a complete waste of a year (besides some development to younger guys)


I guess my point is, you’re not going to get a tactical spike with Carr as he’s already implementing the ‘new’ tactics this year. Unless he tweaks it or the players implement better.

So what are you going to get with Carr? What will be new and improved?
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Re: PAFC 2025

Postby Booney » Tue Jul 08, 2025 4:29 pm

mots02 wrote:I guess my point is, you’re not going to get a tactical spike with Carr as he’s already implementing the ‘new’ tactics this year. Unless he tweaks it or the players implement better.


Another summer of not kicking on Dixon's head and players being available to play is a positive in my books.
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Re: PAFC 2025

Postby DOC » Tue Jul 08, 2025 4:29 pm

Port announce that Chad Cornes will not be offered a contract for next year.
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Re: PAFC 2025

Postby Armchair expert » Tue Jul 08, 2025 4:31 pm

Finally! the big news we have been waiting for

Chad Cornes told don't come back next season
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Re: PAFC 2025

Postby locky801 » Tue Jul 08, 2025 4:46 pm

Armchair expert wrote:Finally! the big news we have been waiting for

Chad Cornes told don't come back next season


Wonder if there will be a Vol KANO over this :D
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Re: PAFC 2025

Postby Trader » Tue Jul 08, 2025 4:49 pm

I understand where LM is coming from. Well, at least I agree with what I think his point is.

In a similar, but slightly different way, for mine, i feel the club has made a decision that having all your eggs in the top 23 is the best method. Having a balanced list is handy when you get injuries, but if you get injuries, you aint winning the flag anyway. So it feels to me, the club has had a strategy of attempting to get the strongest 23, and not really worrying about what that leaves on the list from 24-40.

This has meant, we've had a lack of development of kids who aren't already in the playing 23, and we've also looked to bring in guys who fit a gap in the starting team, even if that's meant moving on some depth from other areas on the field. This is the dreaded "missing puzzle piece" rolling joke we had for years.

These two strategies have meant we haven't had a lot of top end draft talent, other than the 2018 draft, and it has also meant we run out of depth when mid-season injuries hit.

I think our recycled players have been fairly average over this period:
Joe Richards
Jordan Sweet
Zerk-Thatcher
Ivan Soldo
Ratugolea
Rory Atkins
Quinton Narkle
Trent Dumont
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Cam Sutcliff
Jack Trengove
Lindsey Thomas
Jack Watts
Sam Mayes
Steve Motlop
Toumpas

Don't get me wrong, there were a few winners:
Paddy Ryder, Lycett, Rockliff, Horne-Francis, Lukosius, Rioli and say McKenzie

But for the most part, I'd say 2/3s of those we've brought in in the last 10 years, have either failed, or clogged the list before being delisted within say 4 seasons.
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Re: PAFC 2025

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Jul 08, 2025 5:02 pm

Trader wrote:I understand where LM is coming from. Well, at least I agree with what I think his point is.

In a similar, but slightly different way, for mine, i feel the club has made a decision that having all your eggs in the top 23 is the best method. Having a balanced list is handy when you get injuries, but if you get injuries, you aint winning the flag anyway. So it feels to me, the club has had a strategy of attempting to get the strongest 23, and not really worrying about what that leaves on the list from 24-40.

This has meant, we've had a lack of development of kids who aren't already in the playing 23, and we've also looked to bring in guys who fit a gap in the starting team, even if that's meant moving on some depth from other areas on the field. This is the dreaded "missing puzzle piece" rolling joke we had for years.

These two strategies have meant we haven't had a lot of top end draft talent, other than the 2018 draft, and it has also meant we run out of depth when mid-season injuries hit.

I think our recycled players have been fairly average over this period:
Joe Richards
Jordan Sweet
Zerk-Thatcher
Ivan Soldo
Ratugolea
Rory Atkins
Quinton Narkle
Trent Dumont
Fantasia
Cam Sutcliff
Jack Trengove
Lindsey Thomas
Jack Watts
Sam Mayes
Steve Motlop
Toumpas

Don't get me wrong, there were a few winners:
Paddy Ryder, Lycett, Rockliff, Horne-Francis, Lukosius, Rioli and say McKenzie

But for the most part, I'd say 2/3s of those we've brought in in the last 10 years, have either failed, or clogged the list before being delisted within say 4 seasons.


That's about where I am with it all as far as developing youth vs recycled players and yeah 2/3's, 30%. Unless we're picking up a genuine talent I would rather see a rebuild and develop some youth.

You worded it better.
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Re: PAFC 2025

Postby bertiebeatle1 » Tue Jul 08, 2025 5:03 pm

locky801 wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:Finally! the big news we have been waiting for

Chad Cornes told don't come back next season


Wonder if there will be a Vol KANO over this :D



Watch Kane completely change his tune on Port now with Ken & Chad gone
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Re: PAFC 2025

Postby wenchbarwer » Tue Jul 08, 2025 5:06 pm

bertiebeatle1 wrote:
locky801 wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:Finally! the big news we have been waiting for

Chad Cornes told don't come back next season


Wonder if there will be a Vol KANO over this :D



Watch Kane completely change his tune on Port now with Ken & Chad gone


Well, his source is about to leave the building, so it makes sense! :lol:
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Re: PAFC 2025

Postby Brodlach » Tue Jul 08, 2025 5:48 pm

I find it odd they would announce him leaving this time in a season. Awkward with Carr the next two months?
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Re: PAFC 2025

Postby Spargo » Tue Jul 08, 2025 5:53 pm

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Re: PAFC 2025

Postby amber_fluid » Tue Jul 08, 2025 6:04 pm

Brodlach wrote:I find it odd they would announce him leaving this time in a season. Awkward with Carr the next two months?


Gives him more time to find a new job
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Re: PAFC 2025

Postby amber_fluid » Tue Jul 08, 2025 6:11 pm

Surely Port will get an experienced senior assistant in to help Carr.
Who’s available?
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Re: PAFC 2025

Postby dedja » Tue Jul 08, 2025 6:12 pm

amber_fluid wrote:Surely Port will get an experienced senior assistant in to help Carr.
Who’s available?


Probably the blokes they’ve already been talking to …
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Re: PAFC 2025

Postby amber_fluid » Tue Jul 08, 2025 6:13 pm

dedja wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:Surely Port will get an experienced senior assistant in to help Carr.
Who’s available?


Probably the blokes they’ve already been talking to …


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Re: PAFC 2025

Postby dedja » Tue Jul 08, 2025 6:19 pm

Starting the list … may have more vacancies by the end of the season

Jars
Trevor Hill
Jarrod Cotton
Dale Lewis
*cough* maybe a couple of current SANFL coaches *cough*
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Re: PAFC 2025

Postby amber_fluid » Tue Jul 08, 2025 6:27 pm

dedja wrote:Starting the list … may have more vacancies by the end of the season

Jars
Trevor Hill
Jarrod Cotton
Dale Lewis
*cough* maybe a couple of current SANFL coaches *cough*


It’s a good start!
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Re: PAFC 2025

Postby dedja » Tue Jul 08, 2025 6:31 pm

No Cornes in Port Adelaide.

Now at least 3 SANFL coaches from this year.

Maybe Kock will demand a mid-season coaches draft from next year. :roll:

A Wikipedia edit might be in order. :lol:

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Re: PAFC 2025

Postby RB » Tue Jul 08, 2025 8:06 pm

dedja wrote:Starting the list … may have more vacancies by the end of the season

Jars
Trevor Hill
Jarrod Cotton
Dale Lewis
*cough* maybe a couple of current SANFL coaches *cough*
Mark Ricciuto is finishing up at the Crows soon...
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Re: PAFC 2025

Postby mots02 » Tue Jul 08, 2025 8:22 pm

Tredders to step straight in as forwards coach / finance manager
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