Port Adelaide 2015

[bennymacca]

11 players 195cms+ on the list at the moment.

Westhoff, Frampton, Redden,Austin, Howard, Harvey, Lobbe, Shaw, Trengove, Butcher, Ryder.

Clurey, Hombsch, Carlile, O'Shea 193cm.

So 15 players 193cm +. We are getting a little top heavy IMO.

I think two at least will go, Butcher and Shaw / Redden.

Seems like a pretty raw bunch there. How many are pushing for selection?

Reckon you guys might be in a spot of bother when Shulz retires - one of those lads should probably be pushing for regular senior footy already

[Booney]

11 players 195cms+ on the list at the moment.

Westhoff, Frampton, Redden,Austin, Howard, Harvey, Lobbe, Shaw, Trengove, Butcher, Ryder.

Clurey, Hombsch, Carlile, O'Shea 193cm.

So 15 players 193cm +. We are getting a little top heavy IMO.

I think two at least will go, Butcher and Shaw / Redden.

Seems like a pretty raw bunch there. How many are pushing for selection?

Reckon you guys might be in a spot of bother when Shulz retires - one of those lads should probably be pushing for regular senior footy already

Not just yet, Schulz will play at least 2 more years ( he just turned 30 in April ) and with Ryder and Westhoff we have two sound options there. I'd like to have seen Hombsch or Jonas used forward, but their back line work eliminates that.

Frampton is more ruck but I think he looks a very handy prospect and Howard is a KPP forward/defender.

If this time next year Shaw or Harvey haven't pushed for selection than things might be a little more serious.

[Dutchy]

What do Port fans think of their last 2 years draftee's and their progression? Early days I know but I would have thought Port fans would have liked to have seen more of them at least performing well at SANFL level.

While they had excellent draftee's in the 2 years prior as a neutral I think the last 2 years could prove to be disapppointing

[Footy Smart]

What do Port fans think of their last 2 years draftee's and their progression? Early days I know but I would have thought Port fans would have liked to have seen more of them at least performing well at SANFL level.

While they had excellent draftee's in the 2 years prior as a neutral I think the last 2 years could prove to be disapppointing

Did Impey get drafted 2 years ago? I reckon he has plenty to offer, i know Valleys has said he likes him on the best small FWD, but i reckon he has some flair and could be used a bit more offensively even through the mids or a wing if he has the motor. His goal on the weekend was brilliant.

[Dutchy]

Impey and Amon only 2 we have seen anything out of so far IMO

[Booney]

What do Port fans think of their last 2 years draftee's and their progression? Early days I know but I would have thought Port fans would have liked to have seen more of them at least performing well at SANFL level.

While they had excellent draftee's in the 2 years prior as a neutral I think the last 2 years could prove to be disapppointing

Not all together correct.

I'll leave the 2014 draft as they are only 6 months into their senior careers. Not many players make an impact like Ollie Wines in their first year. I'd say the two drafts are looking better than ok IF Shaw or Harvey push up to AFL level. If neither of them do then it's two years of time spent invested in big men that didn't come off.

So 2013 :
(National)
Jarman Impey - Clearly set for a long career - PASS
Mitch Harvey - Yet to establish himself at SANFL level, big lad who is coming along though - TBC
Darcy Byrne-Jones - I don't think he's up to AFL level - FAIL
Karl Amon - Debuted this year, currently adds to our midfield depth - PASS
(Rookie)
Sam Russell - Not seen at AFL level, not taking the SANFL by storm - TBC
Sam Gray - In and out at AFL level with quite a bit of work to do. A depth player at this point. - TBC

2012:
(National)
Ollie Wines - Gun. Out and out gun. - PASS PASS!!!
Tom Clurey - Unlucky not to have played more, but Hombsch and Jonas have taken his spot - PASS
Mason Shaw - Behind Harvey, big key forward yet to get on the park in 2015 - TBC
Tom Jonas - Dropped, but clearly a first pick player when in form - PASS
(Rookie)
Kane Mitchell - Not sure about Mitchell, the coaches like him more than I do. Does a good TV interview though. - PASS
Justin Hoskin - Delisted - FAIL
(Pre-season)
Sam Colquhoun - Back after a recon and looked good in his few games this year. Needed a run in the Magpies ( or two ) and perhaps a week off. - PASS

So from 13 players I'd say 1 gem in Wines, Impey and Jonas as the standouts, Amon, Clurey, Mitchell (just) and Colquhoun as PASS marks.

TBC - Harvey, Shaw, Russell, Gray,

Fail - Byrne-Jones, Hoskin.

1 gun - Wines
2 very solid - Impey and Jonas,
4 pass marks
4 to be decided
2 fails

[Booney]

Impey and Amon only 2 we have seen anything out of so far IMO

Wines, Jonas, Clurey and Colquhoun.

[bennymacca]

edit: DAMMIT BOONEY

Here are their results for the last 3 years, and how many games they have played.

Wines (2012 Pick 7) 59
Impey 28
Sam Gray (Rookie) 11
Krakouer (Rookie) 9
Amon 5
Clurey 5

Howard, Austin, Palmer, Frampton, Harvey, Byrne-Jones, Shaw 0

With the exception of Wines who is already the best player in that draft by a long way and will be a 200 gamer for sure, i would say that the rest of their drafting could be regarded as slightly disappointing.

Port guys might be able to comment a bit more than me though given they would keep a closer eye on the SANFL form

[Footy Smart]

I know its more than 2 years ago but Moore and Butcher are ports drafting failures (which all clubs have) they certainly havent developed for first round pics.

Port have done well with recruiting ready made players though ie schultz, White, Polec, Hombsch, monfries, ryder

[bennymacca]

Given i was already looking on footywire i thought i would have a look at the crows draftees, just for a comparison. (Not trying to say the crows are better or worse, just picked the crows because im a crows man)

Laird (Rookie) 29
B Crouch (Mini draft) 25
M Crouch 16
K Hartigan (Rookie) 16
Lever 5
Knight 1

Siggins, Atkins, Wigg, McGovern, Dear 0

At this early stage you would have to give it to the crows as a group, especially given we were locked out of a couple of drafts, but just being able to draft a single player like wines is huge. It remains to be seen whether crouch or lever (the top 10 picks for the crows) will reach that level. I am confident both will though, pending a better run with injury for Crouch

[Rik E Boy]

11 players 195cms+ on the list at the moment.

Westhoff, Frampton, Redden,Austin, Howard, Harvey, Lobbe, Shaw, Trengove, Butcher, Ryder.

Clurey, Hombsch, Carlile, O'Shea 193cm.

So 15 players 193cm +. We are getting a little top heavy IMO.

I think two at least will go, Butcher and Shaw / Redden.

Seems like a pretty raw bunch there. How many are pushing for selection?

Reckon you guys might be in a spot of bother when Shulz retires - one of those lads should probably be pushing for regular senior footy already

Not just yet, Schulz will play at least 2 more years ( he just turned 30 in April ) and with Ryder and Westhoff we have two sound options there. I'd like to have seen Hombsch or Jonas used forward, but their back line work eliminates that.

Frampton is more ruck but I think he looks a very handy prospect and Howard is a KPP forward/defender.

If this time next year Shaw or Harvey haven't pushed for selection than things might be a little more serious.

LMAO Still waiting for Westhoff to turn into a footballer...

regards,

REB

[Booney]

I know its more than 2 years ago but Moore and Butcher are ports drafting failures (which all clubs have) they certainly havent developed for first round pics.

Port have done well with recruiting ready made players though ie schultz, White, Polec, Hombsch, monfries, ryder

Moore will be a 150 gamer in time. He's had to wait his turn, his time will come IMO.

Butch will be delisted.

[Booney]

Given i was already looking on footywire i thought i would have a look at the crows draftees, just for a comparison. (Not trying to say the crows are better or worse, just picked the crows because im a crows man)

Laird (Rookie) 29
B Crouch (Mini draft) 25
M Crouch 16
K Hartigan (Rookie) 16
Lever 5
Knight 1

Siggins, Atkins, Wigg, McGovern, Dear 0

At this early stage you would have to give it to the crows as a group, especially given we were locked out of a couple of drafts, but just being able to draft a single player like wines is huge. It remains to be seen whether crouch or lever (the top 10 picks for the crows) will reach that level. I am confident both will though, pending a better run with injury for Crouch

Pretty good in comparison.

Laird and B Crouch the pick of them at this point, M Crouch I think is too slow, but he's making an impression at the moment while Hartigan is probably at 16 games because Shaw has missed so much footy. Lever looks very promising as does Knight.

I'd agree, as a group, Adelaide's looks a little better. Port have the gun in Wines and very good in Impey. It's a pretty even discussion.

Perhaps though Port have the edge with Clurey, Amon, Gray, Jonas and Colquhoun all having got some game time.

[Dutchy]

Impey and Amon only 2 we have seen anything out of so far IMO

Wines, Jonas, Clurey and Colquhoun.

Was talking 2013 & 2014 only and acknowledged the previous drafting was good.

I wonder if these drafts may hurt in years to come, esp giving up so much for Ryder in 2014.

[Booney]

Impey and Amon only 2 we have seen anything out of so far IMO

Wines, Jonas, Clurey and Colquhoun.

Was talking 2013 & 2014 only and acknowledged the previous drafting was good.

I wonder if these drafts may hurt in years to come, esp giving up so much for Ryder in 2014.

2014 draft isn't long ago, not many clubs would have a 2014 draftee pushing for selection, let alone a first pick player.

[stan]

Impey and Amon only 2 we have seen anything out of so far IMO

Wines, Jonas, Clurey and Colquhoun.

Was talking 2013 & 2014 only and acknowledged the previous drafting was good.

I wonder if these drafts may hurt in years to come, esp giving up so much for Ryder in 2014.

I think yes Port gave up too much fpr Ryder.

[The Bedge]

With the exception of Wines who is already the best player in that draft by a long way and will be a 200 gamer for sure,

Almost 60 games already at age 20.. is it possible to think that he will monster past 200 games and could well push towards the magical 300 mark?

[valleys07]

I think yes Port gave up too much fpr Ryder.

I can't bring myself to make the call so early.

Yes, this year hasn't turned out the way any Port fan, along with most media experts, expected it to- however this cannot be lumped solely on the shoulders of Paddy.

Ruck tandems will take time to develop, and Paddy may still be feeling the effects of the ASADA saga, along with the time it takes to fit into a new club and new role.

If we manage to snare a premiership during Paddy's tenure at Port Adelaide, the recruit will still be a success, and the price tag will be justified. If we don't- well the criticism is warranted. Sydney are in exactly the same boat re. Buddy and Tippett.

Hindsight my friends.

[bennymacca]

With the exception of Wines who is already the best player in that draft by a long way and will be a 200 gamer for sure,

Almost 60 games already at age 20.. is it possible to think that he will monster past 200 games and could well push towards the magical 300 mark?

for sure. will also be the next captain of port i would think

[valleys07]

With the exception of Wines who is already the best player in that draft by a long way and will be a 200 gamer for sure,

Almost 60 games already at age 20.. is it possible to think that he will monster past 200 games and could well push towards the magical 300 mark?

for sure. will also be the next captain of port i would think

Most definitely our skipper in waiting.

The best player of the draft? I don't think the gap is as big as its being made out to be.

Stringer is a gun, and Macrae and Whitfield have shown signs that they will be players of the future.

I guess the point im trying to make is that Wines appears to be close to his ceiling as a player. Don't get me wrong- we get 250+ games of that, and he will go down as one of the PAFC greats. I do however feel that the other 3 names mentioned have a larger scope for improvement.