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Re: 2022 AFL offseason - trades - draft

PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:48 am
by amber_fluid
Brodlach wrote:I’ve been lower :lol:

We all have different opinions.


I thought it was one of your better posts to be honest ;)

Re: 2022 AFL offseason - trades - draft

PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:50 am
by Mr Beefy
Dutchy wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Dutchy wrote:He will get picked up by someone

Probably by your lot, he's 23, short, not overly quick. He plays too many "poor" games IMO.


We do have 4 rookie spots to fill...I actually think he would suit one of the top teams i.e. Stengle has fitted seamlessly into a good organised team where he can play to his strengths. I could see Jimmy having a 30-40 goal season at somewhere like Melbourne.

I cant see him getting a game at a top team

Re: 2022 AFL offseason - trades - draft

PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:51 am
by Lightning McQueen
Mr Beefy wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Dutchy wrote:He will get picked up by someone

Probably by your lot, he's 23, short, not overly quick. He plays too many "poor" games IMO.


We do have 4 rookie spots to fill...I actually think he would suit one of the top teams i.e. Stengle has fitted seamlessly into a good organised team where he can play to his strengths. I could see Jimmy having a 30-40 goal season at somewhere like Melbourne.

I cant see him getting a game at a top team

TV broken?

Re: 2022 AFL offseason - trades - draft

PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:28 am
by mots02
Agree that this is pretty atrocious by the Club (if what's presented here is accurate).

Also agree that we probably wouldn't have heard of it or been discussing it if it wasn't Jimmy Rowe.

Re: 2022 AFL offseason - trades - draft

PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 4:52 pm
by Gozu
The only reason people are talking about this kid is because his father is some sort of big shot on talk back radio. It's likely the same reason he ever played an AFL game too.

Where is that bullshit talk no doubt spun by his father or agent about the Bulldogs 'chasing' him to try and pressure the Crows into giving him another contract? Talk about trying to play the game and then crying foul when things don't go their way.

I wouldn't ask Stephen Rowe for his opinion on the weather and James was fortunate to have ever played in the AFL in the first place.

Re: 2022 AFL offseason - trades - draft

PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 5:33 pm
by RB
Gozu wrote:I wouldn't ask Stephen Rowe for his opinion on the weather and James was fortunate to have ever played in the AFL in the first place.


I agree with that but geez, is it so hard to pick up the phone...?

Re: 2022 AFL offseason - trades - draft

PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 6:33 pm
by Eagles2014
RB wrote:
Gozu wrote:I wouldn't ask Stephen Rowe for his opinion on the weather and James was fortunate to have ever played in the AFL in the first place.


I agree with that but geez, is it so hard to pick up the phone...?


Spot on RB.

Some of the comments and views on this topic by people are bizarre, the only issue is the lack of a phone call to say we changed our mind and not getting a contract now. How anybody can think this is acceptable is beyond me :shock: Who his Dad is has nothing to do with anything!

Re: 2022 AFL offseason - trades - draft

PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:43 pm
by Gozu
Eagles2014 wrote:Who his Dad is has nothing to do with anything!


It's got everything to do with it, it's the only reason you know about it.

I'm not saying it was great by the Crows it isn't but this is the reality for young guys when AFL teams discard them, they're unceremoniously dumped. Something similar (promise of being rookie listed and then oops changed our minds, see ya later) probably happens around the AFL 4-5 times every year but you never hear about it because those kids dads aren't some blowhard on talk back radio.

Re: 2022 AFL offseason - trades - draft

PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:06 am
by MW
Gozu wrote:
Eagles2014 wrote:Who his Dad is has nothing to do with anything!


It's got everything to do with it, it's the only reason you know about it.

I'm not saying it was great by the Crows it isn't but this is the reality for young guys when AFL teams discard them, they're unceremoniously dumped. Something similar (promise of being rookie listed and then oops changed our minds, see ya later) probably happens around the AFL 4-5 times every year but you never hear about it because those kids dads aren't some blowhard on talk back radio.


Probably should have been a phone call not a text though, but who knows what was discussed between club and player at the exit interview.

Re: 2022 AFL offseason - trades - draft

PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:02 am
by carey
Brodlach wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
Brodlach wrote:When a persons contract expires in the real world does that happen?

He knew he wasn’t getting a new contract


Why are footballers treated differently? If I knew I didn’t have a contract I wouldn’t be in Europe


How hard is it to make a phone call?


Maybe they did and he didn’t answer?


You lads salivate at the slightest negative that’s occurs at West Lakes.


Likewise with anything at Alberton, probably more!

Re: 2022 AFL offseason - trades - draft

PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:05 am
by carey
Dutchy wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Dutchy wrote:He will get picked up by someone

Probably by your lot, he's 23, short, not overly quick. He plays too many "poor" games IMO.


We do have 4 rookie spots to fill...I actually think he would suit one of the top teams i.e. Stengle has fitted seamlessly into a good organised team where he can play to his strengths. I could see Jimmy having a 30-40 goal season at somewhere like Melbourne.



You must see something in him that i don't.

Re: 2022 AFL offseason - trades - draft

PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:08 am
by Booney
carey wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Dutchy wrote:He will get picked up by someone

Probably by your lot, he's 23, short, not overly quick. He plays too many "poor" games IMO.


We do have 4 rookie spots to fill...I actually think he would suit one of the top teams i.e. Stengle has fitted seamlessly into a good organised team where he can play to his strengths. I could see Jimmy having a 30-40 goal season at somewhere like Melbourne.



You must see something in him that i don't.


Nearly a goal a game in a side that's won a dozen games in the last two years playing the hardest role in the side.

His defensive pressure is minimal, if he was in an organized unit he might average 1.5-2 per game and be a 30-40 goal a year forward. No doubt he's got footy smarts and goal sense.

Re: 2022 AFL offseason - trades - draft

PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:09 am
by carey
Undersized, Slow Mediocre at best player gets delisted and it creates 404, 963 comments across social media.

Wow, who would've thought, this must've never happened before!

Re: 2022 AFL offseason - trades - draft

PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:11 am
by Armchair expert
Would fit in well at Port.

Re: 2022 AFL offseason - trades - draft

PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:19 am
by mots02
Booney wrote:
carey wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
We do have 4 rookie spots to fill...I actually think he would suit one of the top teams i.e. Stengle has fitted seamlessly into a good organised team where he can play to his strengths. I could see Jimmy having a 30-40 goal season at somewhere like Melbourne.



You must see something in him that i don't.


Nearly a goal a game in a side that's won a dozen games in the last two years playing the hardest role in the side.

His defensive pressure is minimal, if he was in an organized unit he might average 1.5-2 per game and be a 30-40 goal a year forward. No doubt he's got footy smarts and goal sense.


Those would be better stats than Junior Rioli... maybe you've spent the cash on the wrong guy?

Re: 2022 AFL offseason - trades - draft

PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:21 am
by Booney
mots02 wrote:Those would be better stats than Junior Rioli... maybe you've spent the cash on the wrong guy?


Rioli
Disp 12
Goals 1.1
Tackles 2.8

Rowe
12
.8
1.7

Re: 2022 AFL offseason - trades - draft

PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:28 am
by mots02
Booney wrote:
mots02 wrote:Those would be better stats than Junior Rioli... maybe you've spent the cash on the wrong guy?


Rioli
Disp 12
Goals 1.1
Tackles 2.8

Rowe
12
.8
1.7


Nice stats, but the stats you quoted above is that Jimmy 'might' average 1.5 - 2.0 goals a game in a good side, which would have him with better stats than Junior?

What 'might' Junior average in a good side? (albeit some of his career at west coast he was already in a good side).

Slightly different price tag on the 2 of them as well.

Re: 2022 AFL offseason - trades - draft

PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:39 am
by Lightning McQueen
Booney wrote:
mots02 wrote:Those would be better stats than Junior Rioli... maybe you've spent the cash on the wrong guy?


Rioli
Disp 12
Goals 1.1
Tackles 2.8

Rowe
12
.8
1.7


It's hard to read Rowe's numbers, he was subbed on twice and had next to zero impact.

He had two more games where he may aswell have been playing in a sandpit, he had 4 or 5 very serviceable games but he never really compliments all of his skillset in the one game.

He laid 5 tackles twice, he kicked multiple goals on 4 occasions and had half a dozen matches where he collected a decent amount of disposals, just doesn't really put it all together on the one day.

He probably got a little complacent as he had a pretty handy debut season.

Re: 2022 AFL offseason - trades - draft

PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:48 am
by Booney
mots02 wrote:
Slightly different price tag on the 2 of them as well.


But one is a Rowe, so. :D

Re: 2022 AFL offseason - trades - draft

PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2022 11:14 am
by whufc
mots02 wrote:
Booney wrote:
mots02 wrote:Those would be better stats than Junior Rioli... maybe you've spent the cash on the wrong guy?


Rioli
Disp 12
Goals 1.1
Tackles 2.8

Rowe
12
.8
1.7


Nice stats, but the stats you quoted above is that Jimmy 'might' average 1.5 - 2.0 goals a game in a good side, which would have him with better stats than Junior?

What 'might' Junior average in a good side? (albeit some of his career at west coast he was already in a good side).

Slightly different price tag on the 2 of them as well.


I agree.....as a money ball pick Rowe would be better value than Rioli and maybe has some bigger upside given he doesn't have a past littered with drug and discipline problems.

If Rioli had not of said he wanted to come home would Port have chased him that hard........i believe the answer would be no.