Hawthorn Season 2009

[stan]

The tribunal has stated that the contact was reasonable but Buddy should have tackled.

WTF is this tribunal turning into. Are they all wannabe coaches? It is the coaches job to tell a player that they should have tackled.

As Mark Evans from Hawthorn said, if a player is missing two matches for reasonable actions what are they going to do for something that is unreasonable?

The issue was the contact with or close to the head. It was always going to attrack something from the tribunal. Right or Wrong that is reality of it.
But this crap about reasonable or unreasonable is a bit strange, if the action was reasonable then why is he suspended for 2 matches? Confusing!

[Wedgie]

Just watched it on youtube for the first time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O3h_E80vXw

No offence guys, I'm a Buddy fan but that's clearly a 1 or 2 weeks offence, he's hit cousins in the head with his shoulder or upper arm and could have easily have broken the guys jaw into a million pieces, he had 2 other options which were to either a) tackle or b) brace himself lower and hip and shoulder the guy. A good tackle that drove him backwards would have been the preferable thing and would have been a great spectacle if he could pull it off. Might I also point out he wan't malicious but just reckless.

The big outcry should be at the umpire who let play go on with Hawthorn getting a goal, I didn't see what happened afterwards but did he also give a free to Hawthorn after that?

[Farmy]

As far as I'm concerned this is just pay back for all the time he spends Lairising.

What a stupid post.

Heh, if he spent less time Lairising this season his team might have already qualified for the finals.

Besides, I'm glad he got 2 weeks for contesting the 1 week offer, he deserved one week, and Hawthorn deserve the 2 for questioning it, legally being able to knock out players is not, contrary to what a lot of chimps think, a good thing. The bump itself wasn't that bad at all though.

, well??

Now lets see if you can follow, the bump wasn't bad enough for a 2 week suspension, but it was for a 1 week suspension.

[Farmy]

As far as I'm concerned this is just pay back for all the time he spends Lairising.

If you have something constructive to add then feel free to do so but to just display your jealousy that A. you are never going to be that good and B. you wish he played for your side is just pathetic.

Aw, stop projecting champ.

[interested observer]

Just watched it on youtube for the first time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O3h_E80vXw

No offence guys, I'm a Buddy fan but that's clearly a 2 weeks offence, he's hit cousins in the head with his shoulder or upper arm and could have easily have broken the guys jaw into a million pieces, he had 2 other options which were to either a) tackle or b) brace himself lower and hip and shoulder the guy. A good tackle that drove him backwards would have been the preferable thing and would have been a great spectacle if he could pull it off. Might I also point out he wan't malicious but just reckless.

The big outcry should be at the umpire who let play go on with Hawthorn getting a goal, I didn't see what happened afterwards but did he also give a free to Hawthorn after that?

Should of tackled, should of bumped????
What a crock of Shite...
Split second decisions at the highest level of sport are made.
The only thing Franklin is guilty of is being 6'6 and running in to a 5'11 opposition player who head is the same height as his shoulders..

Hey, that will be the next rule these monkeys come up with...
Can only nominate for the draft if you are spot on 6 foot..

An absolute joke and is making a mockery of the game..

And for eveyone that is not a Hawthorn supporter, change the scenario to your team and one of your gun players and then make an honest assessment..

Just another chapter in the nightmare of 2009...

[Farmy]

Heh, if he spent less time Lairising this season his team might have already qualified for the finals.

Besides, I'm glad he got 2 weeks for contesting the 1 week offer, he deserved one week, and Hawthorn deserve the 2 for questioning it, legally being able to knock out players is not, contrary to what a lot of chimps think, a good thing. The bump itself wasn't that bad at all though.

You've got no idea have you?

How do you figure, the ruling body of the game determined he deserved 1 week, I personally think he deserved 1 week, the Hawks contested the charge and the ruling body of the game penalized them for it and gave him two weeks.

That is reality, now you hawks fans need to just deal with it, as stuff like this happens to everyone. I certainly hope the hawk players themselves are focusing on the upcoming game a little more than their fans are.

[dedja]

Just watched it on youtube for the first time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O3h_E80vXw

No offence guys, I'm a Buddy fan but that's clearly a 2 weeks offence, he's hit cousins in the head with his shoulder or upper arm and could have easily have broken the guys jaw into a million pieces, he had 2 other options which were to either a) tackle or b) brace himself lower and hip and shoulder the guy. A good tackle that drove him backwards would have been the preferable thing and would have been a great spectacle if he could pull it off. Might I also point out he wan't malicious but just reckless.

The big outcry should be at the umpire who let play go on with Hawthorn getting a goal, I didn't see what happened afterwards but did he also give a free to Hawthorn after that?

Should of tackled, should of bumped????
What a crock of Shite...
Split second decisions at the highest level of sport are made.
The only thing Franklin is guilty of is being 6'6 and running in to a 5'11 opposition player who head is the same height as his shoulders..

Hey, that will be the next rule these monkeys come up with...
Can only nominate for the draft if you are spot on 6 foot..

An absolute joke and is making a mockery of the game..

And for eveyone that is not a Hawthorn supporter, change the scenario to your team and one of your gun players and then make an honest assessment.

Just another chapter in the nightmare of 2009...

It's an absolute travesty that the bump would even be considered as reportable ... but the letter of the law as it is written today deems that as a reportable offence. I don't blame the Match Review Committee or the tribunial because their hands are tied.

I have absolutely no doubt that there was no malice from Buddy to knock Cuz down with a hit to the head ... in fact it was a textbook bump IMO.

This has all come about because the AFL employs a lawyer who has no feel for the game as their Football Operations Manager.

[Dirko]

Buddy did the right thing, the Cuz changed direction and fumbled the ball which caused him to lose his balance to a degree and lower himself, hence why Buddy's shoulder/arm cleaned him up.

Play on ! Hence the Hawks goal.

[Q.]

Bump warranted nothing more than a free kick for high contact. He had only milliseconds to process that the bump would catch him high, it is impossible for anyone to withdraw from a contest in that time frame. Are we getting to the point where someone is reported for accidently tackling someone around the neck?

[Wedgie]

A textbook hip and shoulder is when you bump someone's hip and shoulder with your hip and shoulder.

The oulawing of a bump to the head has been applied for the last 6 years, why the QQ now?

And if anyone says its playon thet might want to read the rules as if you get hit above your shoulder its a free kick (unless you duck but even that one is wrongfully paid IMHO these days).
I for one have really enjoyed the points system as since its been around Ive been pretty close with all predictions as its so simple and easy to follow.
The AFL before that (and the SANFL currently) were shocking in their lack on consistency.

Its all well and good to QQ when the rule was amended in the Byron Picket days (I did at the time) but when its been around for over half a decade I cant believe people still get outraged when the rules and guidelines are the easiest to follow ever in the game's history.

Silly move by Hawthorn though, they're only playing Essendon this week and should have rested him for the finals when they could have done anything. Stuffed themselves up now.

[Bum Crack]

He's out and I'm happy. Go Cats!!!!!!!

[interested observer]

A textbook hip and shoulder is when you bump someone's hip and shoulder with your hip and shoulder.

The oulawing of a bump to the head has been applied for the last 6 years, why the QQ now?

And if anyone says its playon thet might want to read the rules as if you get hit above your shoulder its a free kick (unless you duck but even that one is wrongfully paid IMHO these days).
I for one have really enjoyed the points system as since its been around Ive been pretty close with all predictions as its so simple and easy to follow.
The AFL before that (and the SANFL currently) were shocking in their lack on consistency.

Its all well and good to QQ when the rule was amended in the Byron Picket days (I did at the time) but when its been around for over half a decade I cant believe people still get outraged when the rules and guidelines are the easiest to follow ever in the game's history.

Silly move by Hawthorn though, they're only playing Essendon this week and should have rested him for the finals when they could have done anything. Stuffed themselves up now.

Not over yet....

[wycbloods]

Heh, if he spent less time Lairising this season his team might have already qualified for the finals.

Besides, I'm glad he got 2 weeks for contesting the 1 week offer, he deserved one week, and Hawthorn deserve the 2 for questioning it, legally being able to knock out players is not, contrary to what a lot of chimps think, a good thing. The bump itself wasn't that bad at all though.

You've got no idea have you?

How do you figure, the ruling body of the game determined he deserved 1 week, I personally think he deserved 1 week, the Hawks contested the charge and the ruling body of the game penalized them for it and gave him two weeks.

That is reality, now you hawks fans need to just deal with it, as stuff like this happens to everyone. I certainly hope the hawk players themselves are focusing on the upcoming game a little more than their fans are.

No they didn't they gave him two games and it would've been one if he entered an early guilty plea. He didn't get penalised for challenging the decision he got the original suspension without the reduction for the early plea.

[wycbloods]

A textbook hip and shoulder is when you bump someone's hip and shoulder with your hip and shoulder.

The oulawing of a bump to the head has been applied for the last 6 years, why the QQ now?

And if anyone says its playon thet might want to read the rules as if you get hit above your shoulder its a free kick (unless you duck but even that one is wrongfully paid IMHO these days).
I for one have really enjoyed the points system as since its been around Ive been pretty close with all predictions as its so simple and easy to follow.
The AFL before that (and the SANFL currently) were shocking in their lack on consistency.

Its all well and good to QQ when the rule was amended in the Byron Picket days (I did at the time) but when its been around for over half a decade I cant believe people still get outraged when the rules and guidelines are the easiest to follow ever in the game's history.

Silly move by Hawthorn though, they're only playing Essendon this week and should have rested him for the finals when they could have done anything. Stuffed themselves up now.

So Rob Shirley didn't apply a spear tackle and Buddys bump was worthy of suspension, you change your mind more than you change you undies.

[Wedgie]

So Rob Shirley didn't apply a spear tackle and Buddys bump was worthy of suspension, you change your mind more than you change you undies.

I haven't changed my mind on anything. Shirley's clearly wasn't a spear tackle (it was a rough reckless tackle but certainly wasn't a spear tackle IMHO), I still have exactly the same opinion on it.
Besides being incorrect you make no valid point.

[magpie in the 80's]

Verdict just released: Buddy Franklin's SUSPENSION STILL STANDS. APPEAL FAILED


The AFL appeals board has dismissed the challenge by Hawthorn forward Lance Franklin against his two-match ban.

After a hearing lasting nearly two-and-a-half hours, the three-man panel took just five minutes to rule on the appeal.

[brod]

I know the title is "season 2009", but it looks as if the Hawks mayhave found a replacement for Hadwick already, if reports are correct that Justin Leppitch will join the club for next season.
Wonder if Buddy brings out the "I rather be dead than red line again"

[brod]

Gotta feel for Max Bailey, who last week made his comeback after two knee recos (both right knee) and today went down with what looks like a significant left knee injury. Poor bloke was in the rooms in tears during/after the match

[Cambridge Clarrie]

Yeah, that was really terrible to see. Not something you'd want to go through all over again...

As for Hawthorn's season, it can only be summed up as a terrible failure. Will be very interesting to see how they come out in 2010...

[redden whites]

Dear football gods,Thank you for answering our prayers in 2008.I fear you will be not so nice in 2009 .May I please put in a wish list for 2009 and leave the rest of what may happen in your hands.Please can I ask for
No double losses to Adelaide
No double losses to Pt Adelaide
No double losses to Geelong ( especially a capitulation circumstance)
No double losses to Essendon
No loss to Brisbane when we a 3 goals up in a low scoring game and kicking with gale in the next quarter and lose by more than 40pt .
The President not make a fool of himself on numerous occasions.
Not playing 12 debut players(or less than 2 games) the year after winning a flag.
After carrying Max Bailey for 3 years on the list him getting a game at the end of the season and him doing the other knee.
After 21 rounds of agony watching very average performances by some miracle; if we are in a position to be a chance to make the 8 with a ridiculous 10 wins please do not let us be 4 goals up without Buddy in the 3rd term and get done more than 4 goals.Do not let us go into this game with 11 Grand Final faces missing.Do not let Browny make a goose of himself or the coach or the President in the following days.
I know all these things could not possibly happen so I am worrying about nothing probably but I just want to be sure,,,Yours REDDEN WHITES