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Re: Sack Craig

Postby Interceptor » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:47 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:I think Craig is quite innovative. I just reckon he sometimes goes a bit defensive when he probably shouldn't like that final against Collingwood last year. There was some bizarre coaching in that game from both coaches IMO.

That's a reasonable comment REB, although I reckon a reasonable part of the Semi loss was due to ill-discipline from Goodwin, Stevens and of course Rutten. Yes, the third qtr slowdown strategy didn't help much either.

The continual "sports scientist/not a footy coach" spiel by some (and one poster here in particular) is one of the more bizarre (and profoundly ignorant) calls I've ever seen. Craig's footy background and knowledge is clearly extensive (except to the ignorant) and has blended his skills and know how with modern sports science.

No he hasn't delivered a flag.
He's made mistakes, he's been stubborn with his strategies at times.
His side hasn't been able to kill too many sides off after establishing 4-5 goal leads.
However, he has produced a highly competitive team that can give the finals a better shake if they absorb a killer instinct into their mindset.
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby Felch » Fri Mar 12, 2010 3:20 pm

Mate, that is one of the most accurate and educated posts i have ever read on Craigy, good stuff !

Keep that up though, and people will start to think that some of us Crows supporters actually know something about footy... ;)
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby The Dark Knight » Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:22 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:The Crows need to understand this If they want to win a flag in the next 5 years (which I actually think is possible :shock: ) they need to sack craig, just get rid of him! They need a Aussies rules football coach not a Scientist. Also their recent run of injuries IS because of over training and someone needs to tell Craig that ASAP. Still think they will be top 6 tho


Oh oh, you might just make the Blackbirds go bat5hit with that comment o Caped Crusader!

regards,

REB (not the Joker alas)


Thank mate :) I just like to say what me and many other people think of him
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby The Dark Knight » Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:26 pm

Felch wrote:Mate, that is one of the most accurate and educated posts i have ever read on Craigy, good stuff !

Keep that up though, and people will start to think that some of us Crows supporters actually know something about footy... ;)


We can only hope Felch, We can only hope :D
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby overloaded » Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:51 pm

should have done it at the end of last year
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby Gingernuts » Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:09 pm

overloaded wrote:should have done it at the end of last year


:lol:

Didn't even let the game finish.
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby tiger07andbeyond » Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:28 am

I agree with him tho, another 12 months of 'Mr Niceguy' and another 5th placed finish. We had the chance to get a decent coach in Laidley and blew it.
What a disraceful effort last night. heads need to roll after that :oops:
Media Park wrote:You'd sort of hope to finish third in such a tightly contested year- get the cheap win over the fourth placed side for a bit of momentum.

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Re: Sack Craig

Postby Felch » Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:50 am

tiger07andbeyond wrote:I agree with him tho, another 12 months of 'Mr Niceguy' and another 5th placed finish. We had the chance to get a decent coach in Laidley and blew it.
What a disraceful effort last night. heads need to roll after that :oops:


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Re: Sack Craig

Postby Footy Smart » Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:06 am

Felch wrote:
tiger07andbeyond wrote:I agree with him tho, another 12 months of 'Mr Niceguy' and another 5th placed finish. We had the chance to get a decent coach in Laidley and blew it.
What a disraceful effort last night. heads need to roll after that :oops:


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No just Moron :lol:
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby Felch » Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:12 pm

Footy Smart wrote:
Felch wrote:
tiger07andbeyond wrote:I agree with him tho, another 12 months of 'Mr Niceguy' and another 5th placed finish. We had the chance to get a decent coach in Laidley and blew it.
What a disraceful effort last night. heads need to roll after that :oops:


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No just Moron :lol:


We are both right me thinks... :D
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby Drop Bear » Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:22 pm

Taking too much away from Freo guys. They played very good, high pressure footy. The Crows just lacked spark.
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby Felch » Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:52 pm

Drop Bear wrote:Taking too much away from Freo guys. They played very good, high pressure footy. The Crows just lacked spark.


Mate, i agree with 100%. Freo were very impressive, didnt allow Adelaide to play well. The Dockers tackled as well as i have ever seen them.
Some Adelaide players looked short of a run - Bock, Vince.

Not panic stations yet. It will interesting to see how Freo measure up though. They play like that, they wont lose too many at home this year.
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby Hondo » Mon Mar 29, 2010 4:26 pm

I'm not trying necessarially shut down the NC bashing here (and related defending) .... but the original post on this tread was a self-admitted rant by NFC because Patrick Dangerfield didn't play a trial game in 2009. The thread has long since stopped being about that particular issue.

Could be shut this thread down and we start up a "NC bash" thread on the main board if we have to have one?
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby Bat Pad » Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:20 pm

Lets not forget how hard it actually is to win a flag. Does anyone honestly believe that Footscray/Western Bulldogs and St Kilda have not had a decent coach for 50 years? I think Adelaide especially showed how hard it is to win a flag in 2006, when they had a great season derailed with nothing to show for it by one player, all be it a great one in Ben Cousins. Had he not played that prelim 3rd quarter I honestly believe the Crows would have a flag. A lot of things need to go right.
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby NFC » Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:52 pm

hondo71 wrote:I'm not trying necessarially shut down the NC bashing here (and related defending) .... but the original post on this tread was a self-admitted rant by NFC because Patrick Dangerfield didn't play a trial game in 2009. The thread has long since stopped being about that particular issue.

Could be shut this thread down and we start up a "NC bash" thread on the main board if we have to have one?

Agreed!!
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby tiger07andbeyond » Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:27 am

If we lose this week I say Craig should be shown the door. 2 losses to teams expected to be in the bottom 6 to start the season is not acceptable. Our gameplan is flawed and he has lost the respect of the players.
Media Park wrote:You'd sort of hope to finish third in such a tightly contested year- get the cheap win over the fourth placed side for a bit of momentum.

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Re: Sack Craig

Postby tiger07andbeyond » Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:29 am

If we lose this week I say Craig should be shown the door. 2 losses to teams expected to be in the bottom 6 to start the season is not acceptable. Our gameplan is flawed and he has lost the respect of the players. Keeping those 4 older players was a HUGE mistake, sure they will float around and pick up 20 touches across half back but they arent damaging any more.
We are heading down.
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby Rik E Boy » Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:50 am

tiger07andbeyond wrote:If we lose this week I say Craig should be shown the door. 2 losses to teams expected to be in the bottom 6 to start the season is not acceptable. Our gameplan is flawed and he has lost the respect of the players. Keeping those 4 older players was a HUGE mistake, sure they will float around and pick up 20 touches across half back but they arent damaging any more.
We are heading down.


This is getting ridiculous. It's starting to sound like the 'Drop Nathan Hauritz' stuff going on in the Cricket Board. Getting rid of a coach after two rounds would be the worst possible thing the Adelaide Crows could do. The Crows have lost a heap of players to injury, just have a look at how this effect Hawthorn's premiership defence or Fremantle's season last year. I think the loss was more about an improvement in Freo because they had a full list to choose from rather than any shortcomings with the coach.

Get in a new man now, er...who might that be btw? And he either sticks to Craig's gameplan but can't do it as well as Craig or he implements a new gameplan and wastes the recently completed pre-season. Doing this while Goodwin, Burton, McLeod and Edwards are still at the club is Football suicide. The club made the decsion to retain these blokes (I thought Burton should have gone but the other three retained) so the decision to retain the coach is an automatic one....dispite any hysterial overrations to a loss on the road to an improving side.

regards,

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Re: Sack Craig

Postby Booney » Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:56 am

Agreed. Saying "we lost the game" shows little or nor respect to the team who won the game.

Luckily Gingernuts and a few others keep this place level headed.
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Re: Sack Craig

Postby Footy Smart » Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:09 am

tiger07andbeyond wrote:If we lose this week I say Craig should be shown the door. 2 losses to teams expected to be in the bottom 6 to start the season is not acceptable. Our gameplan is flawed and he has lost the respect of the players. Keeping those 4 older players was a HUGE mistake, sure they will float around and pick up 20 touches across half back but they arent damaging any more.
We are heading down.


Seriously Tiger were you dropped on your head at birth or do you just like embracing yourself with the dribble that comes out of your mouth.

Who is a better coach that NC currently available?
How is the game plan flawed? we have played with it once(its only round 1, one, uno)
How has he lost the respect of the players? The facts are that NC has got the best out of what can in previous years be described as an 'average' squad.
Didn’t Goodwin lead inside 50s for the crows last year :oops: (not damaging at all)
If we got rid of those 4 older blokes(no respect for our club champions?), results like that would have been more frequent then i can imagine your reaction

My conclusion is YOU have no idea about football and the AFC don’t need or want your stupidity associated with them.

You are an embracement to the club and yourself
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