AFL drugs charge

[aceman]

but who was he buying it for?

anyone work it out yet?

Someone called "Cousin" So he becomes a "mule" by virtue of the fact he's carrying for someone else. That's got to be worth a 'Not Guilty your honor!'
Had a bad upbringing, missed out on a GF so give us a break, will ya!

[Bum Crack]

but who was he buying it for?

anyone work it out yet?

Someone called "Cousin" So he becomes a "mule" by virtue of the fact he's carrying for someone else. That's got to be worth a 'Not Guilty your honor!'
Had a bad upbringing, missed out on a GF so give us a break, will ya!

[Dogwatcher]

Not sure we're talking about "average Joe".
Have a look at what the 3 Bullies & their boss copped for harassing a workmate for long enough to drive her to commit suicide, I'm thinking that dealing in cocaine has caused many to go down that same path so if you want an example to go buy, notwithstanding the law will have it's say in the courts also, I reckon IMO he should have been delisted.
Might sound harsh but if you can save both a life & Stokes from further trouble, you've achieved something more than a "scorch mark" in his wallet. Then also the others within the AFL might think twice about doing the same thing.
A few years ago Dale Lewis brought this subject into the open forum and was ridiculed and told it was a crock of sh*t, maybe he knew something the big boys didn't want to know!

Explain your comparison. How is dealing cocaine the same as bullying someone who later commits suicide?

[aceman]

Not sure we're talking about "average Joe".
Have a look at what the 3 Bullies & their boss copped for harassing a workmate for long enough to drive her to commit suicide, I'm thinking that dealing in cocaine has caused many to go down that same path so if you want an example to go buy, notwithstanding the law will have it's say in the courts also, I reckon IMO he should have been delisted.
Might sound harsh but if you can save both a life & Stokes from further trouble, you've achieved something more than a "scorch mark" in his wallet. Then also the others within the AFL might think twice about doing the same thing.
A few years ago Dale Lewis brought this subject into the open forum and was ridiculed and told it was a crock of sh*t, maybe he knew something the big boys didn't want to know!

Explain your comparison. How is dealing cocaine the same as bullying someone who later commits suicide?

Psyber wrote:
What they do have in common is the question of what behaviour should society tolerate, and how should society send out the message to those who may emulate the people who push their individualism too far?
Then we get into uncomfortable debates about relative values - what should be tolerated and what shouldn't?
The easy route is to just let it rip, and only police the easy stuff like parking and speeding...


I thought the comparisons of sorts were put on the previous page, so too did Psyber.

It's about "right or wrong" and what importance is placed on either, IMO they are both relevant because in the end, both have caused loss of life,family breakdowns, bashings and many other social problems, something not to be taken too lightly.
Incidentally, I'm talking as someone who has been privy to a death from drugs which led a friend's son to hang himself because he could not longer beg,steal or borrow money to buy them. Try telling the parents that go through this that their sons death has no relevance. It is an illness manifested by the initial use of illicit substances which transforms itself into some thing bigger in many, many people. So too is bullying, the bully gets his/her kicks out of demeaning another individual which gives them a high of a different sort, at the end of the day they both cause families and individuals grief and in this case, a death.

[aceman]

Not sure we're talking about "average Joe".
Have a look at what the 3 Bullies & their boss copped for harassing a workmate for long enough to drive her to commit suicide, I'm thinking that dealing in cocaine has caused many to go down that same path so if you want an example to go buy, notwithstanding the law will have it's say in the courts also, I reckon IMO he should have been delisted.
Might sound harsh but if you can save both a life & Stokes from further trouble, you've achieved something more than a "scorch mark" in his wallet. Then also the others within the AFL might think twice about doing the same thing.
A few years ago Dale Lewis brought this subject into the open forum and was ridiculed and told it was a crock of sh*t, maybe he knew something the big boys didn't want to know!

Explain your comparison. How is dealing cocaine the same as bullying someone who later commits suicide?

Who said he was dealing? It may have been for him, wouldn't be the first AFL player to snort it. Or any other footballer for that matter.

[Bum Crack]

Psyber agreed with the comparisons too???? Well that means a lot.

[aceman]

Psyber agreed with the comparisons too???? Well that means a lot.

Means a lot more than "denial" or "let's hide it, it will go away"!

[Q.]

Ace, it's a terrible comparison.

An individual makes an educated (perhaps 'uneducated' is a better word in this age of 'just say no') decision to use a drug. Wouldn't think too many individuals ask their workmates to bully them.

[Psyber]

Ace, it's a terrible comparison.
An individual makes an educated (perhaps 'uneducated' is a better word in this age of 'just say no') decision to use a drug. Wouldn't think too many individuals ask their workmates to bully them.

I thought from my reading that it wasn't just for personal use but buying and selling on to an associate - hence "trafficking". Thus he was promoting and encouraging drug use.

[Bum Crack]

Those who agree it is a good comparison, say yes and those that don't think it is, say no.

I'm a NO.

[aceman]

Ace, it's a terrible comparison.

An individual makes an educated (perhaps 'uneducated' is a better word in this age of 'just say no') decision to use a drug. Wouldn't think too many individuals ask their workmates to bully them.

Q, without wishing to "labour" on this issue I think if you look at this in the opposite light (I'm not referring to the bullied person, but the person doing the bullying) you should arrive at something like this;

1/ A drug dealer (financial) or user derives a benefit or pleasure from what they are doing and enjoys the end result
2/ A bully derives a benefit (self satisfaction) or pleasure from what they are doing and enjoys the end result

So if a death becomes a byproduct or consequence of the list of actions as above, why is it not comparable?

[Bum Crack]

Ace, it's a terrible comparison.

An individual makes an educated (perhaps 'uneducated' is a better word in this age of 'just say no') decision to use a drug. Wouldn't think too many individuals ask their workmates to bully them.

Q, without wishing to "labour" on this issue I think if you look at this in the opposite light (I'm not referring to the bullied person, but the person doing the bullying) you should arrive at something like this;

1/ A drug dealer (financial) or user derives a benefit or pleasure from what they are doing and enjoys the end result
2/ A bully derives a benefit (self satisfaction) or pleasure from what they are doing and enjoys the end result

So if a death becomes a byproduct or consequence of the list of actions as above, why is it not comparable?

Why don't you compare Stokesy to Adolf Hitler and every other dictator the world has seen then?? You may as well, because they derived satisfaction and pleasure from what they did. See what I mean?? You can't compare the two. End of story

[aceman]

Ace, it's a terrible comparison.

An individual makes an educated (perhaps 'uneducated' is a better word in this age of 'just say no') decision to use a drug. Wouldn't think too many individuals ask their workmates to bully them.

Q, without wishing to "labour" on this issue I think if you look at this in the opposite light (I'm not referring to the bullied person, but the person doing the bullying) you should arrive at something like this;

1/ A drug dealer (financial) or user derives a benefit or pleasure from what they are doing and enjoys the end result
2/ A bully derives a benefit (self satisfaction) or pleasure from what they are doing and enjoys the end result

So if a death becomes a byproduct or consequence of the list of actions as above, why is it not comparable?

Why don't you compare Stokesy to Adolf Hitler and every other dictator the world has seen then?? You may as well, because they derived satisfaction and pleasure from what they did. See what I mean?? You can't compare the two. End of story

Okay, enough said on this.
Lets get onto the SANFL forum and get stuck into that black & white team, can't remember their name but it'll come to me eventually.

[hearts on fire]

Stokes to train with club Bell Park during ban.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx

[centrecirclelegend]

the "friend" in Darwin maybe as famous as the culprit?

who could it be?

[CoverKing]

the "friend" in Darwin maybe as famous as the culprit?

who could it be?

Well you seem to know?

[centrecirclelegend]