Adelaide Vs Geelong

[JK]

Some good points made Scaff!!

I sat in the "Checkside Tavern" (got there at half time) with some mates and watched it on the TV over a few beers ... Late in the 3rd quarter I said to a mate "Geelong will pinch a late goal here and run away in the last to win by about 8 goals" and wasn't surprised that it panned out exactly that way.

There is much to enthuse about with the young Crows .. To be down so early against the benchmark, yet stick at them and get within 2 goals late in the 3rd is an excellent effort - Of course the Cats know how to win in the clinches and get the job done because they are an amazing team, so I don't think the Crows were ever a chance to win, but it was good to see AAMI buzzing again at a Crows game and the kids rise to the occasion.

David Mackay must be running at full confidence (and rightly so), he is silky smooth and really, none of the kids have been a let down ... I think there's a few players in the older (than the babies) bracket that will need to really perform at their best - Doughty as you mentioned and Brent Reilly in particular, who I reckon is close to the crossroads.

Most Crows fans seemed pretty upbeat about the loss (apart from the usual idiots who expect to win every game, every year, and call for either an umpires head or coaches head if they don't), and finals or not, they have reason to enjoy watching their team every week with these kids on display.

The tough time for these kids will be next year when most fans expect them to be world beaters, despite the additional attention they'll receive from the opposition ... As we're seeing with the Saints and we've already seen with the Cats and Hawks (bar Buddy and Roughy), as good as the kids might be it still takes several years for the body to reach maturity and consistency of game to kick in, it's important the public remain balanced in their views and support of the Crows young ones, without "over the top" expectations.

[silicone skyline]

That was Harry Taylor Walker outmarked. Porplyzia was playing on Scarlett.

Was Robert Shirley's effort on the weekend about his career ender, I mean, wasn't he doing the tagging role on Ablett?

[JK]

G Ablett was all class too, seeing him live, he's a freak. Possibly the best player I have ever seen, he's better than his old man easily.

Ooh big call mate ... He's not the better player yet I don't reckon, but may well be by his career's end ... Champion nonetheless.

[Footy Smart]

That was Harry Taylor Walker outmarked. Porplyzia was playing on Scarlett.

Was Robert Shirley's effort on the weekend about his career ender, I mean, wasn't he doing the tagging role on Ablett?

He only was on him for about 50% of the game craigy said. But there is no real point tagging a geelong midfielder you have to try and beat them with the same amount of numbers and back yourself to get the footy first and use it and thats what i think we ttried to do. If you tag ablett he still gets 30 posessions but then you have selwood, corey, kelly, ling etc all racking up posession while our tagger gets litttle to no footy.

It was great to that when we were down and fighting back that the midield included dangerfield, vince, vanberlo etc not mcleod, goodwin, edwards. A changing of the guard is slowely happening

I was really impressed with tippets ability around the ground and thought his work rate was about 30% higher than usual

vanberlo did some good tough things also

Reilly is a worry, before he hurt himself he was playing great hard running confident footy and unfortunatly he hasnt recatured that form

[silicone skyline]

The thing I've noticed with Ablett is he gets a lot of irrelevant one-two handballs.

Don't get me wrong, great player, amazingly skillful but his stats are becoming similar to that of Scott West.

Huge numbers, but I reckon he could have had 15 less handpasses and still got the same result.

[Gingernuts]

That was Harry Taylor Walker outmarked. Porplyzia was playing on Scarlett.

My bad

Was a good mark nonetheless. After Tippetts mark about a minute later I lent over to the missus and said "I can't believe it, we actually have marks being taken inside 50, that hasn't happened for years!". Pity both missed their shots on goal, doh! lol

And the Ablett call is a big one, but I thought I'd throw it out there. I did only catch the last few years of GA Snr's career so probably don't have a full understanding of his skill level, he was pretty much tied to the goalsquare by that stage.

[Rik E Boy]

G Ablett was all class too, seeing him live, he's a freak. Possibly the best player I have ever seen, he's better than his old man easily.

I've seen both play and Dad leaves Junior for dead. His old man is the best player I have ever seen. Only Carey comes close.

regards,

REB

[Rik E Boy]

And the Ablett call is a big one, but I thought I'd throw it out there. I did only catch the last few years of GA Snr's career so probably don't have a full understanding of his skill level, he was pretty much tied to the goalsquare by that stage.

And when he was well past thirty years of age he kicked as many goals as Tony Modra did in his prime and Modra was a special footballer (as Bruce might say). Pretty happy to have Father and Son in the hoops I must say.

regards,

REB

[silicone skyline]

What Ablett senior did better was the freakish. Ablett Jnr does everything very well, but doesn't really attempt the freakish hangers, banana goals etc.

All I can remember of Ablett senior was constant one handers, hangers and amazingly skillful goals from anywhere, whether off balance or on the run.

[JK]

G Ablett was all class too, seeing him live, he's a freak. Possibly the best player I have ever seen, he's better than his old man easily.

I've seen both play and Dad leaves Junior for dead. His old man is the best player I have ever seen. Only Carey comes close.

regards,

REB

I'ts opinion I know, but I agree %200 Reberta, GAB senior the most brilliant player I've seen

[Dogwatcher]

Correct weight there CP & REB.

[SCD]

agree on a number of points guys..

On the Ablett debate - IMO Snr was GOD.. Jnr is getting there and in 5-6 years time, he may have a better record in terms of acomplishments... but to compare them is unfair.. one was the best forward of his generation (and many others) and the other is a midfield freak...

The Crows have so much development ahead of them.. On Tippet - I thought he just about had his best game for us.. his ruck work has improved ten fold and his contested marks or crashing packs is great..

Shirley to me looked slow and not up to AFL standard anymore.. (and he was one of my favourites last year, so it's hard for me to say that!!) He was on Ablett and Corey and they left him for dead all night..

On Doughty - do you think Jacky could do the same type of job that he does?? I just find he turns the ball over and wastes all his hard work through poor skill errors all the time... being at Woodville yesterday, I was amazed how much Jacky has bulked up and looks like a man (not a kid playing against men)... I agree Cook is probably not 100% ready to play all games at this stage, but Jacky is from what I saw yesterday..

I don't expect 2010 for us to be fighting for a premiership, but the foundation has been built and with a couple of seasons - we are going to be a major force for the early / mid part of next decade.. I hope

[stan]

For crow supporters you take a few things out of the game. For example with Walker and Tippett up forward you actually have some tall forwards that look like they can take a grab down there. Both players have a long way to go, but geez its good news.
Also players like Ottens, Dangerfield and Vince are really starting to come along.
I guess you crow supporters just need to accept that fact that Geelong are better and more developed than crows at the moment, but in saying that with the rape and pillage from the Gold Coast coming, the Crows are in a good position for the next few years.

[Felch]

Would i be correct in saying that Ablett Snr played alot of his career with dodgy knees too ? I think people forget way too quickly just how good he was. He is the second best footballer i have seen, behind Wayne Carey.

On Reilly, i actually think he isn't playing too bad. The defensive role is fairly new to him, and he is making a couple of errors here and there. He is an attacking-type player though, so that is going to happen. I have never been a huge Doughty fan, and i think he has been given plenty of chances over the years. I just wonder whether its time to try someone like Jacky instead.

Someone else said the same previously, but i think Saturday was Tippett's best game for the club.

[Footy Smart]

Would i be correct in saying that Ablett Snr played alot of his career with dodgy knees too ? I think people forget way too quickly just how good he was. He is the second best footballer i have seen, behind Wayne Carey.

On Reilly, i actually think he isn't playing too bad. The defensive role is fairly new to him, and he is making a couple of errors here and there. He is an attacking-type player though, so that is going to happen. I have never been a huge Doughty fan, and i think he has been given plenty of chances over the years. I just wonder whether its time to try someone like Jacky instead.

Someone else said the same previously, but i think Saturday was Tippett's best game for the club.

Doughty is playin in defence and he is a midfielder. Jacky is a forward nothing else atm

there is no need atm to change just for the sake of it. We have a heap of new/young players in the team atm i would leave it as it is. If by round 15 or 16 we cant make the finals well then by all means give them a crack

[Felch]

Would i be correct in saying that Ablett Snr played alot of his career with dodgy knees too ? I think people forget way too quickly just how good he was. He is the second best footballer i have seen, behind Wayne Carey.

On Reilly, i actually think he isn't playing too bad. The defensive role is fairly new to him, and he is making a couple of errors here and there. He is an attacking-type player though, so that is going to happen. I have never been a huge Doughty fan, and i think he has been given plenty of chances over the years. I just wonder whether its time to try someone like Jacky instead.

Someone else said the same previously, but i think Saturday was Tippett's best game for the club.

Doughty is playin in defence and he is a midfielder. Jacky is a forward nothing else atm

there is no need atm to change just for the sake of it. We have a heap of new/young players in the team atm i would leave it as it is. If by round 15 or 16 we cant make the finals well then by all means give them a crack

I should have been a bit clearer FS. I meant someone like Jacky, meaning one of the young blokes who is impressing at SANFL level. I agree with your point though, about not making a change just for the sake of it.

Doughty's days are numbered IMO. Mind you, many people have been saying/thinking that for years and he keeps surviving.

[FD88]

Taylor Walker's 55m goal was brilliant, and his involvment of the crowd in the celebration a la Franklin was pretty special to see live. It was the sort of thing I can't recall a crows player doing for years. We can only hope he becomes anything like the player Buddy is!