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Re: Adelaide

Postby am Bays » Wed May 14, 2025 10:34 am

Brodlach wrote:Most inside mids have ordinary disposal efficiency


I'm talking team
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Re: Adelaide

Postby woodublieve12 » Wed May 14, 2025 10:38 am

Dutchy wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:Jordan Dawson rated 3rd worst kick in the competition by Champion Data


Champion Data = Pile of horse poo


Kicking efficiency is rubbish stat, any kick over 40m is considered efficient, whether it hits the target or not.


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Re: Adelaide

Postby Dutchy » Wed May 14, 2025 10:41 am

am Bays wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:Jordan Dawson rated 3rd worst kick in the competition by Champion Data


Champion Data = Pile of horse poo


Kicking efficiency is rubbish stat, any kick over 40m is considered efficient, whether it hits the target or not.


Ha I'll remember that the next time a 40 m F50 entry misses the target and is either a LBG or intercept mark to the defending team who then slingshots it out the other side for a sausage down the other end

Really Dutchy???

I get your point about kicking efficiency as a percentage as that can be misleading but there is clear data that shows the absolute number of effectitive kicks/disposals is a key stat that = wins

Happy to show you the article


Its all about context, fans seeing kicking efficiency and get mislead as they dont drill down on it, the clubs/coaches absolutely drill down on it and can see every disposal from a player from a game with a click of a mouse.
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Re: Adelaide

Postby Trader » Wed May 14, 2025 12:10 pm

gadj1976 wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:Jordan Dawson rated 3rd worst kick in the competition by Champion Data


Champion Data = Pile of horse poo


Kicking efficiency is rubbish stat, any kick over 40m is considered efficient, whether it hits the target or not.


Hahaa, really? Ok.


Yup, it's true.

ABC did an article on it in 2023.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-01/ ... /102420562

As per Champion Data and the AFL, an effective kick is where the ball finds a teammate, or is kicked to a contest at least 40 metres away.


The article goes into detail on the difference between effective and ball retention, but that line above is all you need to confirm that a long kick is automatically effective, in the afl's eyes anyway.
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Re: Adelaide

Postby wenchbarwer » Wed May 14, 2025 12:13 pm

It's the only reason Andy McGrath has a high % of "effective" kicks
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Re: Adelaide

Postby whufc » Wed May 14, 2025 12:17 pm

Champion Data Term Glossary

Effective Long Kick: A kick of more than 40m to a 50/50 contest or better for the team.

https://www.championdata.com/glossary/afl/
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Re: Adelaide

Postby Dutchy » Wed May 14, 2025 5:57 pm

The clubs will also receive detailed stats on up to 4 different kick types, so very easy to identify the efficiency of a player, again something the public dont have access to, as far as Im aware
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