van berlo 2011 captian

[Sorry Dude]

I'd rather see Thompson left to do what he does best without also having to cope with the responsibility of being captain.

People have such Simplistic views on things don’t the GN. Just because Thomo gets the most possessions for the team doesn’t mean he is the best 'Leader'. He wasn’t even in the Leadership group last year was he? Like you said GN let him do his thing and not have to worry about all and sundry.

People forget that these players spend more time with each other than most Families do. A leader must be switched on all the time and guide these lads through there development as a footballer both on and off the field!

Thompson isn't a leader and showed that last Friday night. You want the bloke that will get the hard ball and have a bit of mongrel in the side but, that doesn't mean they are a leader. Thommo is one of my favourites but gave me the shits last week

[tiger07andbeyond]

Thompson isn't a leader and showed that last Friday night. You want the bloke that will get the hard ball and have a bit of mongrel in the side but, that doesn't mean they are a leader. Thommo is one of my favourites but gave me the shits last week

Compared to VB Thommo is a lot better

[Psyber]

Thompson isn't a leader and showed that last Friday night. You want the bloke that will get the hard ball and have a bit of mongrel in the side but, that doesn't mean they are a leader. Thommo is one of my favourites but gave me the shits last week

Compared to VB Thommo is a lot better

it depends what statistics you look at on the AFC site and how you value them:
MARKS
Nathan van Berlo 89
Ben Rutten 85
Graham Johncock 82
Scott Thompson 73
Kurt Tippett 70

TACKLES
Scott Thompson 94
Brent Reilly 73
Rory Sloane 62
Michael Doughty 50
Richard Douglas 49

[Sorry Dude]

Thompson isn't a leader and showed that last Friday night. You want the bloke that will get the hard ball and have a bit of mongrel in the side but, that doesn't mean they are a leader. Thommo is one of my favourites but gave me the shits last week

Compared to VB Thommo is a lot better

Compared to VB Myke Cook is a better leader!

[Lethal Dose]

Van berlo just isnt the right man to lead the crows. Cant have a player that makes errors and wrong decisions with the ball as your leader. there isnt an easy player to pick as captain in the current crop of players at this point, when Roo and Goody were given the job they were the right man at the right time. Maybe Doughty with his experience should have been put in as captain for a year or two, just until someone like dangerfield and sloane were ready to take the mantle. Captain needs to be the man the the rest look to for inspiration, like a Jonathon Brown or a Luke Hodge. even though it makes me hurt to say it but Dom Cassisi is atleast the man who the Power boys can look to to spark the team up with the way he plays

[Psyber]

At the time VB's qualifications were that he was experienced enough, senior enough, reasonably intelligent and rational, well-spoken, a good example at training, set a good off-field example, and was a competent player if not a "star". An on field "star" who is also incoherent when speaking, or does not comply with off-field behavioural expectations, is not captain material.
They have to represent the club and be good at enhancing its reputation off-field as well as on.

[Lethal Dose]

At the time VB's qualifications were that he was experienced enough, senior enough, reasonably intelligent and rational, well-spoken, a good example at training, set a good off-field example, and was a competent player if not a "star". An on field "star" who is also incoherent when speaking, or does not comply with off-field behavioural expectations, is not captain material.
They have to represent the club and be good at enhancing its reputation off-field as well as on.

But you have to also be good enough for the side, i think if he was not captain he would have been dropped from some games this year if not years gone by, in my opinion. He is very professional i will give him that, but as far as a great captain, he just does not cut the mustard. he never proved himself as a player before he got the captaincy. Mcdermott was a excellent SANFL player before joining crows, McGuisness and Bickley were proven players and leaders to boot, and Riccuito and Goodwin were Guns. Van Berlo was a link in the chain, not the lock the holds the chain together. But i will admit that no player at the time of choosing was really capable of being the right leader.

[Psyber]

But you have to also be good enough for the side, i think if he was not captain he would have been dropped from some games this year if not years gone by, in my opinion. He is very professional i will give him that, but as far as a great captain, he just does not cut the mustard. he never proved himself as a player before he got the captaincy. Mcdermott was a excellent SANFL player before joining crows, McGuisness and Bickley were proven players and leaders to boot, and Riccuito and Goodwin were Guns. Van Berlo was a link in the chain, not the lock the holds the chain together.
But i will admit that no player at the time of choosing was really capable of being the right leader.

I think you have hit the core issue on the head there.
But I don't think VB is by any means the first player I'd cull from this squad, despite his not delivering what he looked like he could at first.
I'm hoping Bickley tries a few of them in different field positions because I suspect they may do better elsewhere.

[Lethal Dose]

But you have to also be good enough for the side, i think if he was not captain he would have been dropped from some games this year if not years gone by, in my opinion. He is very professional i will give him that, but as far as a great captain, he just does not cut the mustard. he never proved himself as a player before he got the captaincy. Mcdermott was a excellent SANFL player before joining crows, McGuisness and Bickley were proven players and leaders to boot, and Riccuito and Goodwin were Guns. Van Berlo was a link in the chain, not the lock the holds the chain together.
But i will admit that no player at the time of choosing was really capable of being the right leader.

I think you have hit the core issue on the head there.
But I don't think VB is by any means the first player I'd cull from this squad, despite his not delivering what he looked like he could at first.
I'm hoping Bickley tries a few of them in different field positions because I suspect they may do better elsewhere.

Lets hope that he does, would like to see walker play from full foward and tippet from centre half foward. chuck dangerfield in the centre and to be honest id maybe give vince a rest in the sanfl, he just dosnt seem to be all there at the moment. if broadie martin is avaliable i dont know if he is, id have him on the half back line, like what goody and mcleod once did

[Psyber]

I'd move Johncock out to HBF - or even forward - too.
Some of his defensive rebound work is great but he gets a bit brittle when forced to play close to goal when the opposition is on top and the ball keeps coming in.

[Lethal Dose]

I'd move Johncock out to HBF - or even forward - too.
Some of his defensive rebound work is great but he gets a bit brittle when forced to play close to goal when the opposition is on top and the ball keeps coming in.

Johncock and Thompson have both been the crows rock this year. without a doubt the yellow jacket will go to one of them. Johncock would suit half back, but without scotty stevens down there, only stiffy reads the play and cuts off supply in the backline, then runs it out himself. thought tambling would do better, has disapointed me, i was a supporter when he came, but im losing the faith unless he shows promise