Most over-rated player in the AFL

[Q.]

I'm a Swans supporter and I think Goodes is over rated. Plays too many games where he has little impact, like last night.

Well beyond his prime.

[woodublieve12]

I'm a Swans supporter and I think Goodes is over rated. Plays too many games where he has little impact, like last night.

one bad game...

[the milky bar kid]

Judd was good last night, but i'm still sick of all this talk of midfielders being the best players in this comp (please refer to my post on page

Goodes struggled on a tough night for a key position players. Probably had a couple of early umpiring decisions go against him as well.
I'd still take a good KPP over these elite midfielders.

[Bag The Points]

I am of the opinion that if Judd played for Collingwood, Geelong, Hawthorn, Gold Coast in particular or every other team, he would be that clubs best player.

I agree in most of this, but not that particular side. Juddy is one of the all-time greats, but ironically not the best of the current era. The other all-time gun is currently running around with the Suns.

[VC]

Judd might not be the greatest ever now. But you would be kidding yourself if he won't finish his career as one of the greatest. The guy's a superstar. And has Gaz covered well and truly at the moment. He does what ablett does, plus gets the hard ball! Doesn't just have it fed to him whenever he's within handpass or kicking distance.
Don't get me wrong. Ablett can play, can't doubt that for a second.

And with Goodes. It was pissing down last night! The blokes 6 foot 7 or whatever he is, good luck having an impact.
I'd be happy to have a guy that size who can play on the ball, ruck, forward and back in my side. Not too many blokes who can do that. Plus a brownlow winner! Can hardly over rate a guy like that surely!!

[Bag The Points]

Judd might not be the greatest ever now. But you would be kidding yourself if he won't finish his career as one of the greatest. The guy's a superstar. And has Gaz covered well and truly at the moment. He does what ablett does, plus gets the hard ball! Doesn't just have it fed to him whenever he's within handpass or kicking distance.
Don't get me wrong. Ablett can play, can't doubt that for a second.

And with Goodes. It was pissing down last night! The blokes 6 foot 7 or whatever he is, good luck having an impact.
I'd be happy to have a guy that size who can play on the ball, ruck, forward and back in my side. Not too many blokes who can do that. Plus a brownlow winner! Can hardly over rate a guy like that surely!!

For starters, Ablett's goalkicking is vastly superior.
Current- Ablett 1, Judd 2
All-time- both amongst the elite

[Bag The Points]

Elite midfielders are over rated...

Hear me out. I'm sick of when the media & others talk about the best players in the competition & they sit there & say it's Ablett, Judd, Swan, etc.
The value & importance of having good key position players is greater then having the elite midfielders.
If all 17 teams were disolved tomorrow & a draft was held with all players being available I'd almost garuntee that (disregarding age & current fitness) Franklin, Goodes, Brown, Pavlich, Lake, Scarlett & Sandilands would be taken before the ultra elite midfielders.
Just my opinion!

You've got to be kidding ! If any of this trio were still available at pick No.4 we'd have to be in some sort of parallel universe !

[Jim05]

I am of the opinion that if Judd played for Collingwood, Geelong, Hawthorn, Gold Coast in particular or every other team, he would be that clubs best player.

Sorry gazza is far superior, best in comp by length of the MCG

[Mad Mat]

Judd might not be the greatest ever now. But you would be kidding yourself if he won't finish his career as one of the greatest. The guy's a superstar. And has Gaz covered well and truly at the moment. He does what ablett does, plus gets the hard ball! Doesn't just have it fed to him whenever he's within handpass or kicking distance.
Don't get me wrong. Ablett can play, can't doubt that for a second.

And with Goodes. It was pissing down last night! The blokes 6 foot 7 or whatever he is, good luck having an impact.
I'd be happy to have a guy that size who can play on the ball, ruck, forward and back in my side. Not too many blokes who can do that. Plus a brownlow winner! Can hardly over rate a guy like that surely!!

Just sooked everytime he didn't get a free. I hope the media pick up on his actions and have a crack, they were always quick to point out Richo and Fev's dummy spits.

[Turbo]

I am of the opinion that if Judd played for Collingwood, Geelong, Hawthorn, Gold Coast in particular or every other team, he would be that clubs best player.

Sorry gazza is far superior, best in comp by length of the MCG

At Geelong maybe, at gold coast no. He will retire a rich man who's career will never reach the heights it could of in a long term sense if he stayed in a successful side as Geelong is

[Bag The Points]

I am of the opinion that if Judd played for Collingwood, Geelong, Hawthorn, Gold Coast in particular or every other team, he would be that clubs best player.

Sorry gazza is far superior, best in comp by length of the MCG

At Geelong maybe, at gold coast no. He will retire a rich man who's career will never reach the heights it could of in a long term sense if he stayed in a successful side as Geelong is

What difference does the club make ? The guy is a serious gun !!
Bobby Skilton is still revered as one of the very best who ever put on a boot, even though throughout his career his side South Melbourne never played finals. And by the way, Skilton won multiple Brownlow Medals (I think it was three)

[woodublieve12]

Judd might not be the greatest ever now. But you would be kidding yourself if he won't finish his career as one of the greatest. The guy's a superstar. And has Gaz covered well and truly at the moment. He does what ablett does, plus gets the hard ball! Doesn't just have it fed to him whenever he's within handpass or kicking distance.
Don't get me wrong. Ablett can play, can't doubt that for a second.

And with Goodes. It was pissing down last night! The blokes 6 foot 7 or whatever he is, good luck having an impact.
I'd be happy to have a guy that size who can play on the ball, ruck, forward and back in my side. Not too many blokes who can do that. Plus a brownlow winner! Can hardly over rate a guy like that surely!!

Just sooked everytime he didn't get a free. I hope the media pick up on his actions and have a crack, they were always quick to point out Richo and Fev's dummy spits.

i feel a little ill that you put someone like goodes even in the group as the 2 you mentioned.. poor call imho. he was frustrated, hardly call him a sook... i also reckon he'll poll well again this year in the brownlow..

[Media Park]

G Ablett, Goodes, Swan, Juddbot, will all go down as some of the best ever to have put on the boots.

Names like S Black, Cooney, B Harvey shouldn't be considered that inferior either.

[jointman]

G Ablett, Goodes, Swan, Juddbot, will all go down as some of the best ever to have put on the boots.

Names like S Black, Cooney, B Harvey shouldn't be considered that inferior either.

simon black.....playing 10 yrs at that level and so consistent his up there with them easy....guys like swan etc are good players dont get me wrong....but black has been doing it for 10yrs !!!!

[whufc]

G Ablett, Goodes, Swan, Juddbot, will all go down as some of the best ever to have put on the boots.

Names like S Black, Cooney, B Harvey shouldn't be considered that inferior either.

Sorry wouldnt have Cooney anywhere near these blokes just yet!

[Jim05]

G Ablett, Goodes, Swan, Juddbot, will all go down as some of the best ever to have put on the boots.

Names like S Black, Cooney, B Harvey shouldn't be considered that inferior either.

simon black.....playing 10 yrs at that level and so consistent his up there with them easy....guys like swan etc are good players dont get me wrong....but black has been doing it for 10yrs !!!!

Yep Black is unreal. Watch his game tonight, vintage Black absolute star

[The Sleeping Giant]

I'm a Swans supporter and I think Goodes is over rated. Plays too many games where he has little impact, like last night.

one bad game...

[Media Park]

G Ablett, Goodes, Swan, Juddbot, will all go down as some of the best ever to have put on the boots.

Names like S Black, Cooney, B Harvey shouldn't be considered that inferior either.

simon black.....playing 10 yrs at that level and so consistent his up there with them easy....guys like swan etc are good players dont get me wrong....but black has been doing it for 10yrs !!!!

Yep Black is unreal. Watch his game tonight, vintage Black absolute star

I rate him highly, but I was wondering why, with half of the eleven pages thus far having been dedicated to gun players rather than the threads intention of overrated players, why has no-one mentioned BLACK, BOOMER or COONEY, as they are just as good as GOODES.

[7-Dog]

G Ablett, Goodes, Swan, Juddbot, will all go down as some of the best ever to have put on the boots.

Names like S Black, Cooney, B Harvey shouldn't be considered that inferior either.

simon black.....playing 10 yrs at that level and so consistent his up there with them easy....guys like swan etc are good players dont get me wrong....but black has been doing it for 10yrs !!!!

Yep Black is unreal. Watch his game tonight, vintage Black absolute star

I rate him highly, but I was wondering why, with half of the eleven pages thus far having been dedicated to gun players rather than the threads intention of overrated players, why has no-one mentioned BLACK, BOOMER or COONEY, as they are just as good as GOODES.

I mentioned him in the Underrated thread.....loved watching him for many years.

[Turbo]

I am of the opinion that if Judd played for Collingwood, Geelong, Hawthorn, Gold Coast in particular or every other team, he would be that clubs best player.

Sorry gazza is far superior, best in comp by length of the MCG

At Geelong maybe, at gold coast no. He will retire a rich man who's career will never reach the heights it could of in a long term sense if he stayed in a successful side as Geelong is

What difference does the club make ? The guy is a serious gun !!
Bobby Skilton is still revered as one of the very best who ever put on a boot, even though throughout his career his side South Melbourne never played finals. And by the way, Skilton won multiple Brownlow Medals (I think it was three)

Different eras, plus this is a new club full of kids that will only become competitive when he is ready to retire