Grand final replay stays

[Dutchy]

Extra time in the second grand final if it's a draw I believe

Ahh, true, apologies, you're right.

See how confusing it is

I rest my case....

To all those pro-replay what the difference between playing ET after the first GF and the replayed GF?

[JK]

Extra time in the second grand final if it's a draw I believe

Ahh, true, apologies, you're right.

See how confusing it is

I rest my case....

To all those pro-replay what the difference between playing ET after the first GF and the replayed GF?

Timewise there's more need to finalise the season I guess, and what are the odds of 2 drawn games from 2? Why is it you have such a bee in your bonnet about drawn games mate, it's not like they haven't existed for all the years you've been following footy?

[Dutchy]

A drawn game does nothing for no one IMO, why not play extra time and get a result on the day in every game? we go to the footy to watch our team win or lose, not draw

[JK]

"Win, lose or draw" was the saying I always grew up with .. Respect your opinion as always mate, just don't see the need for another change over something that I've never felt has been a problem with the game.

[Hondo]

It can seem like too many different rules for drawn games and too complicated but I simplify it down to:

- when you don't need a definite result on the day a draw is allowed to stand (minor round games and GF 1)

- when for logisitical reasons you HAVE to have a result then you play extra time (finals and GF 2)

ie, where possible you let the draw stand but some games you just have to get a winner and so need a plan B.

When the siren want on the 1st GF this year I was against the replay. After going through the experience of the second GF and it becoming clear Collingwood were the better team and deserving premiers I think the replay was the right way to go.

[Hondo]

I rest my case....

To all those pro-replay what the difference between playing ET after the first GF and the replayed GF?

The difference is that you drastically reduce the odds of a GF being decided on extra time which I think is a good thing as extra time increases the chance of a lucky win IMO.

In the 1 in 1000 years when the second GF is also a draw then you have no choice but to go to the non preferred option of extra time. ie, extra time in a GF is a last resort and I don't think it would ever happen (big call!!!).

I'd rather have a whole other game to find what should emerge as the right premier and the premier should earn it by winning a proper 4 quarter game rather than a 20 minute lighting carnival style game.

[Dutchy]

How would ET be any different to the last 10 mins of normal time? ET would just be an extension of the game.

The AFL contradicts itself by saving GF1 must be replayed but 7 days later ET is acceptable to decide a premier.

[Hondo]

How would ET be any different to the last 10 mins of normal time? ET would just be an extension of the game.

The AFL contradicts itself by saving GF1 must be replayed but 7 days later ET is acceptable to decide a premier.

I agree it's a contradiction but my view is the thinking here is what are the odds of two teams drawing 2 weeks in a row?

ie, it most likely never will happen (I think never!) so you would never have a GF decided on extra time which, as I said, I think is the right thing. A footy game is 4 quarters on one day and to be premier you should have to beat a team over 4 quarters on one day.

Every 1000 years we get the manufactured result

[Q.]

Can depend on whether you think the best team for the year should win, or the team that prepares and handles the 1st GF the best?

In 2010, clearly St Kilda were less awestruck by the occasion and were better prepaed mentally for the 1st GF.

For the replay, the lead up was low key, lacking distraction, hype and scrutiny, and the Collingwood players went about business as usual, played accordingly and demonstrated why they were the best team during the minor rounds.

A replay alters a LOT of factors. Extra-time is a mere extension of the build up. I think it's hilarious to call yourself a purist because you don't want to change the rules. True purity lies in extra time, because the GF isn't just about the four quarters, but also about being able to stay focused during the biggest week of football.

[CoverKing]

IIRC demtrieou was questioned about this after the first GF and his reason about being extra time and not a third GF if a draw occurred on the replay grand final is simply because the MCG is unavailable for that third week at present! Obviously some other reasons but that seemed to be the major one I got from his interview

[mighty_tiger_79]

a drawn game is good for the bookies

good for the fans who can go to game 2, who couldnt go to game 1

[Dutchy]

How would ET be any different to the last 10 mins of normal time? ET would just be an extension of the game.

The AFL contradicts itself by saving GF1 must be replayed but 7 days later ET is acceptable to decide a premier.

I agree it's a contradiction but my view is the thinking here is what are the odds of two teams drawing 2 weeks in a row?

ie, it most likely never will happen (I think never!) so you would never have a GF decided on extra time which, as I said, I think is the right thing. A footy game is 4 quarters on one day and to be premier you should have to beat a team over 4 quarters on one day.

Every 1000 years we get the manufactured result

You say its unlikely but it could happen every year.

The MCG being unavailable isnt a genuine reason, Footy Park was tentatively booked for the 2005 GF replay because they had to start work for the Commonwealth games and look how close they actually came to a draw, we almost saw a GF in Adelaide

[Rik E Boy]

The replay benefits more than what extra time would. Extra time benefits the players and the crowd who attend on the day, a large percentage of which are Champagne guzzling suits who are attending their one game of footy for the year.

With a replay the AFL makes more cash and more spectators get to the see the game, more exposure for the sport as it is now on the same weekend as the NRL Granny (think I've got that right). A replay is better for the majority, not some purist tradition.

regards,

REB

[Sojourner]

The AFL sticking with history as opposed to rule changes - unbelievable!

[Chuck Wepner]

How would ET be any different to the last 10 mins of normal time? ET would just be an extension of the game.

The AFL contradicts itself by saving GF1 must be replayed but 7 days later ET is acceptable to decide a premier.

I agree it's a contradiction but my view is the thinking here is what are the odds of two teams drawing 2 weeks in a row?

ie, it most likely never will happen (I think never!) so you would never have a GF decided on extra time which, as I said, I think is the right thing. A footy game is 4 quarters on one day and to be premier you should have to beat a team over 4 quarters on one day.

Every 1000 years we get the manufactured result

You say its unlikely but it could happen every year.

The MCG being unavailable isnt a genuine reason, Footy Park was tentatively booked for the 2005 GF replay because they had to start work for the Commonwealth games and look how close they actually came to a draw, we almost saw a GF in Adelaide

and you want to eliminate that remote possibility because......... ??? I would've thought that argument supports the case for GF replays

[Drop Bear]

Can depend on whether you think the best team for the year should win, or the team that prepares and handles the 1st GF the best?

In 2010, clearly St Kilda were less awestruck by the occasion and were better prepaed mentally for the 1st GF.

For the replay, the lead up was low key, lacking distraction, hype and scrutiny, and the Collingwood players went about business as usual, played accordingly and demonstrated why they were the best team during the minor rounds.

A replay alters a LOT of factors. Extra-time is a mere extension of the build up. I think it's hilarious to call yourself a purist because you don't want to change the rules. True purity lies in extra time, because the GF isn't just about the four quarters, but also about being able to stay focused during the biggest week of football.

Well said Bangkok Quichey

[Q.]

Can depend on whether you think the best team for the year should win, or the team that prepares and handles the 1st GF the best?

In 2010, clearly St Kilda were less awestruck by the occasion and were better prepaed mentally for the 1st GF.

For the replay, the lead up was low key, lacking distraction, hype and scrutiny, and the Collingwood players went about business as usual, played accordingly and demonstrated why they were the best team during the minor rounds.

A replay alters a LOT of factors. Extra-time is a mere extension of the build up. I think it's hilarious to call yourself a purist because you don't want to change the rules. True purity lies in extra time, because the GF isn't just about the four quarters, but also about being able to stay focused during the biggest week of football.

Well said Bangkok Quichey

Please don't use my stage name on the forum

[Psyber]

Not really, seems easy enough for me.

Minor Round - Draw - Share the points.
Finals - Draw - Extra time.
Grand Finals - Draw - Replay.

Whats so tough? If a kid asked that many questions he'd be able to understand the 3 line table listed above.

And what happens if the GF Replay is a draw?

The one guy who put a few dollars on that with the bookies cleans up big because the odds are astronomical.
The stronger team will win the replay easily while the one that wasn't quite up to it will fall over as happened last year.