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Round 18

PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:50 pm
by PhilH
Following is my understand of all the finals equations for Rd 18

Happy for any feedback if I have stuffed up anywhere.

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EAGLES (14-3 55.58%) v Central @ Maughan Thiem Hyundai Oval, Woodville

Secured Minor Premiership for 3rd straight year,
Next Final : Second Semi v Winner of Port v Sturt. Sun Sept 10 time TBA


PORT (12-5 59.83%) v North @ Prospect Oval


Secured Double Chance, Can finish minor round 2nd or 3rd
Next Final : Qualifying Final v Sturt, 3.10pm Sat Sept 3


STURT (12-5 55.14%) v Norwood @ Coopers Stadium, Norwood

Secured Double Chance, Can finish minor round 2nd or 3rd
Next Final : Qualifying Final v Port, 3.10pm Sat Sept 3


NORWOOD (10-7 50.89%) v Sturt @ Coopers Stadium, Norwood

Secured 4th position
Next Final : Elimination Final v Glenelg/Central/South/Adelaide 12.10pm Sat Sept 3
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GLENELG (8-9 47.26%) v West @ City Mazda Stadium

Can finish anywhere from 5th to 7th
Currently has inferior percentage to Central (3.28% less) & South (0.90% less)
To Play Finals need to
EITHER : Defeat / draw with West Adelaide
OR Central lose/draw to Eagles AND South v Adelaide is a draw.
OR Central lose/draw to Eagles AND South lose to Adelaide AND retain current superior % to Adelaide (current 0.28%)


CENTRAL (7-10 50.54%) v Eagles @ Maughan Thiem Hyundai Oval, Woodville

Can finish anywhere from 5th to 7th
To Play Finals need to
: Defeat Eagles AND West defeat Glenelg


SOUTH (7-10 48.16%) v Adelaide @ Hickinbotham Oval, Noarlunga

Rd 18 Match : Sat Aug 26 2.10pm v Eagles at Maughan West at City Mazda Stadium
Can finish anywhere from 5th to 8th
Currently has inferior percentage to Central (2.38% less)
To Play Finals need to
: Defeat Adelaide AND Eagles defeat Central AND West defeat Glenelg


ADELAIDE (7-10 46.98%) v South @ Hickinbotham Oval, Noarlunga

Can finish anywhere from 5th to 8th
Currently has inferior percentage to Central (3.46% less) & Glenelg (0.28%)
To Play Finals need to
: Defeat South AND Eagles defeat Central AND West defeat Glenelg AND make up 0.28%* gap on Glenelg


*What does 0.28% gap look like?

Currently scores stand
GLENELG + 1293 - 1443 Net points - 150 47.26%
ADELAIDE + 1277 - 1441 Net points —164 46.98%

If Glenelg lose by 8 points (Say 70-78)
and Adelaide win by 8 points (say 78-70)
Percentage would be
Adelaide 47.278%
Glenelg 47.261%

Re: Round 18

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:04 am
by Booney
Port v Sturt and Norwood v Glenelg potential double header week 1 of finals, come on SANFL, promote the 5hit out of this. No AFL, double header at AO, needs to be 20,000+

Re: Round 18

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:47 am
by Dutchy
Massive thanks to the SAFC for inviting us to play our home game (u15's) as the curtain raiser at Hickinbotham this Saturday before South/Crows.

Especially considering we are not in their zone, they do a lot of things right down there off the field. :YMAPPLAUSE:

Re: Round 18

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:10 am
by beef
Booney wrote:Port v Sturt and Norwood v Glenelg potential double header week 1 of finals, come on SANFL, promote the 5hit out of this. No AFL, double header at AO, needs to be 20,000+

Probably struggle to get 7,000 even with promotion and heaps of free tix

Re: Round 18

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:13 am
by Wedgie
Even though Saturday is free would it be beneficial to hve them on Sunday with local comps finals?

Re: Round 18

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:15 am
by Booney
beef wrote:
Booney wrote:Port v Sturt and Norwood v Glenelg potential double header week 1 of finals, come on SANFL, promote the 5hit out of this. No AFL, double header at AO, needs to be 20,000+

Probably struggle to get 7,000 even with promotion and heaps of free tix


8000 last weekend across the Port v Norwood and Eagles v Adelaide games.

Re: Round 18

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:16 am
by Booney
Wedgie wrote:Even though Saturday is free would it be beneficial to hve them on Sunday with local comps finals?


Thought that, or make the double header a twilight elimination into a night qualifying.

Re: Round 18

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:19 am
by Wedgie
I might go if its a Sunday but only because Im getting paid for it, having the day off if its Saturdy as theres too much on.

Re: Round 18

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:19 pm
by Dutchy
If Glenelg were playing on Sunday id go to see them for the first time since 2013.

Re: Round 18

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:09 pm
by VALE PARK
Apart from the GF,
nowadays finals should be played in the suburbs and not as double headers.
The time has passed for this old thinking/ strategy.
Crowds will bomb again at AO as most followers will leave after the first game.
Time to create some suburban atmosphere with promotion and much needed income.
Maybe next year we will see a change.

Re: Round 18

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:41 pm
by Spargo
Booney wrote:Port v Sturt and Norwood v Glenelg potential double header week 1 of finals, come on SANFL, promote the 5hit out of this. No AFL, double header at AO, needs to be 20,000+

With fine weather the SANFL should definitely be aiming for this figure.

Re: Round 18

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:43 pm
by Spargo
Glenelg v West is a 2:40pm start, the other 4 matches at 2:10pm.

Re: Round 18

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:26 pm
by Pseudo
Spargo wrote:Glenelg v West is a 2:40pm start, the other 4 matches at 2:10pm.

Oh good, that should stretch the Bays' season out by another half hour...

Re: Round 18

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:36 pm
by Booney
Pseudo wrote:
Spargo wrote:Glenelg v West is a 2:40pm start, the other 4 matches at 2:10pm.

Oh good, that should stretch the Bays' season out by another half hour...


Don't worry mate, you'll beat Westies. When have they ever broke your heart before?

Re: Round 18

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:58 pm
by prowling panther
Booney wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Even though Saturday is free would it be beneficial to hve them on Sunday with local comps finals?


Thought that, or make the double header a twilight elimination into a night qualifying.


If it is a 10,000 plus crowd it would be worthwhile turning the lights on.

Bloody good idea.

Over to the SANFL now.

Re: Round 18

PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:21 pm
by am Bays
VALE PARK wrote:Apart from the GF,
nowadays finals should be played in the suburbs and not as double headers.
The time has passed for this old thinking/ strategy.
Crowds will bomb again at AO as most followers will leave after the first game.
Time to create some suburban atmosphere with promotion and much needed income.
Maybe next year we will see a change.


Hopefully not. All stakeholders need to be considered in this.

SANFL players and officials deserve the opportunity to play at Adelaide oval given their emotional and time commitment to SANFl footy since Nov the previous year.

No SANFL oval apart from Woodville has the the space capacity (changerooms wise) for double headers (Potentially four different clubs with senior teams playing at the same location.

Spectators need to be taken into consideration but the people who commitment to their SANFL club for over 10 months a season do to.

Re: Round 18

PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:24 pm
by heater31
am Bays wrote:
VALE PARK wrote:Apart from the GF,
nowadays finals should be played in the suburbs and not as double headers.
The time has passed for this old thinking/ strategy.
Crowds will bomb again at AO as most followers will leave after the first game.
Time to create some suburban atmosphere with promotion and much needed income.
Maybe next year we will see a change.


Hopefully not. All stakeholders need to be considered in this.

SANFL players and officials deserve the opportunity to play at Adelaide oval given their emotional and time commitment to SANFl footy since Nov the previous year.

No SANFL oval apart from Woodville has the the space capacity (changerooms wise) for double headers (Potentially four different clubs with senior teams playing at the same location.

Spectators need to be taken into consideration but the people who commitment to their SANFL club for over 10 months a season do to.
It is for this reason League finals continue to be held at the SANFL's best playing field....plus as a neutral who wants to trek to Elizabeth or Noarlunga to watch some footy between 2 teams they don't support?

Re: Round 18

PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:51 pm
by Dutchy
Do the teams get to use the Port/Crows rooms or get chucked into the cricket rooms?

Re: Round 18

PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:05 pm
by Spargo
If finals were played at suburban grounds, who says it has to be a double header?

Re: Round 18

PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:19 pm
by Keefy
Dutchy wrote:Do the teams get to use the Port/Crows rooms or get chucked into the cricket rooms?


If Port or Crows are playing they get to use their rooms. Everyone else gets either the cricket rooms or the away AFL room