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Re: Round 6 LIVE Scores

Postby heater31 » Mon May 02, 2016 7:44 pm

Booney wrote:
pompy wrote:Is it just me or is the SANFL 'Live Stream' not actually live?

Every time I have tried listening to it at a game, it is always 20-30 seconds behind the actual 'Live' game.


It's delayed by some time, yes.

Blame Malcolm for that ;)
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Re: Round 6 LIVE Scores

Postby Big Phil » Tue May 03, 2016 2:26 pm

Booney wrote:
pompy wrote:Is it just me or is the SANFL 'Live Stream' not actually live?

Every time I have tried listening to it at a game, it is always 20-30 seconds behind the actual 'Live' game.


It's delayed by some time, yes.


Depends on your definition of "some time", I guess?

It can vary, depending on location and equipment being used, but it would normally be around the 10-15 second mark, at most...
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Re: Round 6 LIVE Scores

Postby Booney » Tue May 03, 2016 2:43 pm

That's why I said "some time" as it isn't 6 seconds, or 8, or 12, or 15....it's "some time". ;)
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Re: Round 6 LIVE Scores

Postby Wedgie » Tue May 03, 2016 2:52 pm

"some time" means an unspecified interval or period of time.
Sounds like an accurate description by Booney to me.
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Re: Round 6 LIVE Scores

Postby Big Phil » Tue May 03, 2016 2:55 pm

Booney wrote:That's why I said "some time" as it isn't 6 seconds, or 8, or 12, or 15....it's "some time". ;)


Good point, mate :)

But it's definately not 30 seconds...
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Re: Round 6 LIVE Scores

Postby Big Phil » Tue May 03, 2016 2:55 pm

Wedgie wrote:"some time" means an unspecified interval or period of time.
Sounds like an accurate description by Booney to me.

Yep, alright. Point taken.
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Re: Round 6 LIVE Scores

Postby Dutchy » Tue May 03, 2016 3:03 pm

So no chance of listening to the live stream while at the game I presume?
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Re: Round 6 LIVE Scores

Postby Booney » Tue May 03, 2016 3:05 pm

Dutchy wrote:So no chance of listening to the live stream while at the game I presume?


None.
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Re: Round 6 LIVE Scores

Postby Big Phil » Tue May 03, 2016 3:11 pm

Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:So no chance of listening to the live stream while at the game I presume?


None.


It can be done, but not ideal, obviously...

Perhaps I should just tell the league to not bother with streaming any more and just have 1 game on radio and 1 on TV, then?

Can't keep everyone happy, unfortunatelty...
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Re: Round 6 LIVE Scores

Postby Wedgie » Tue May 03, 2016 3:17 pm

Big Phil wrote:
Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:So no chance of listening to the live stream while at the game I presume?


None.


It can be done, but not ideal, obviously...

Perhaps I should just tell the league to not bother with streaming any more and just have 1 game on radio and 1 on TV, then?

Can't keep everyone happy, unfortunatelty...

Get rid of the audio broadcasts but increase the video broadcasts, they're great!
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Re: Round 6 LIVE Scores

Postby Booney » Tue May 03, 2016 3:29 pm

Big Phil wrote:
Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:So no chance of listening to the live stream while at the game I presume?


None.


It can be done, but not ideal, obviously...

Perhaps I should just tell the league to not bother with streaming any more and just have 1 game on radio and 1 on TV, then?

Can't keep everyone happy, unfortunatelty...


If you think the league will follow your recommendation then please, tell them to partner up with a local AM station that has been very supportive over the years and get them to broadcast the games not called by LIFE or the televised game. That'd be great!
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Re: Round 6 LIVE Scores

Postby Dutchy » Tue May 03, 2016 4:47 pm

Big Phil wrote:
Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:So no chance of listening to the live stream while at the game I presume?


None.


It can be done, but not ideal, obviously...

Perhaps I should just tell the league to not bother with streaming any more and just have 1 game on radio and 1 on TV, then?

Can't keep everyone happy, unfortunatelty...


Phil - this is a massive change to what has been provided to SANFL fans for decades, so understandably there are a number of questions that come with it.

I have given a number of compliments on the live youtube stream, I think this is the way forward for the coverage.
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Re: Round 6 LIVE Scores

Postby Big Phil » Tue May 03, 2016 5:39 pm

Dutchy wrote:
Big Phil wrote:
Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:So no chance of listening to the live stream while at the game I presume?


None.


It can be done, but not ideal, obviously...

Perhaps I should just tell the league to not bother with streaming any more and just have 1 game on radio and 1 on TV, then?

Can't keep everyone happy, unfortunatelty...


Phil - this is a massive change to what has been provided to SANFL fans for decades, so understandably there are a number of questions that come with it.

I have given a number of compliments on the live youtube stream, I think this is the way forward for the coverage.


Yep, I agree on all fronts, Dutchy...

Personally, I think the video stream will become more prominent in the future...

Time will tell...
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Re: Round 6 LIVE Scores

Postby pompy » Tue May 03, 2016 8:45 pm

Big Phil wrote:
Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:So no chance of listening to the live stream while at the game I presume?


None.


It can be done, but not ideal, obviously...

Perhaps I should just tell the league to not bother with streaming any more and just have 1 game on radio and 1 on TV, then?

Can't keep everyone happy, unfortunatelty...


Hi Phil,

You say that a live stream 'can be done', but at the moment it isn't being done, can you please explain why?

I also attempted to listen to the game directly from the LifeFM website, but this also was delayed. Why is this so?

I used to really enjoy listening to games on the radio whilst at the games, and I am sure others did too. I'd really appreciate to hear the reason as to why this is not possible at the moment.
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Re: Round 6 LIVE Scores

Postby PhilH » Tue May 03, 2016 10:13 pm

Anything digital is in delay .... listen to digital radio or watch digital tv of a game same time as analogue radio.

Web streaming even more so, to varying degrees from 7 seconds to minutes.

Calling a game via wifi rather than phone line does the same.

Not sure why, just is.



There is solution. ...... add a narrowband broadcast to the stream,

ie on 88.2FM within a couple of km's of the broadcast point

It had already been done at SANFL level both in Adelaide and when LifeFM goes interstate to enable boundary riders to hear the live call for crosses.

No reason why Life FM can't do this as well and then they can do away with ISDN lines just calling wirelessly.

Then it can be promoted that regardless of who is doing the calling at the game
you can hear a LIVE call on 88.2FM
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Re: Round 6 LIVE Scores

Postby johntheclaret » Wed May 04, 2016 6:24 am

Phil, I'm happy that there is something which is better than nothing.
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Re: Round 6 LIVE Scores

Postby johntheclaret » Wed May 04, 2016 6:32 am

pompy wrote:
Big Phil wrote:
Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:So no chance of listening to the live stream while at the game I presume?


None.


It can be done, but not ideal, obviously...

Perhaps I should just tell the league to not bother with streaming any more and just have 1 game on radio and 1 on TV, then?

Can't keep everyone happy, unfortunatelty...


Hi Phil,

You say that a live stream 'can be done', but at the moment it isn't being done, can you please explain why?

I also attempted to listen to the game directly from the LifeFM website, but this also was delayed. Why is this so?

I used to really enjoy listening to games on the radio whilst at the games, and I am sure others did too. I'd really appreciate to hear the reason as to why this is not possible at the moment.

Do you think BP has anything at all to do with what is being broadcast, by who and by how?
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Re: Round 6 LIVE Scores

Postby pompy » Wed May 04, 2016 9:20 am

PhilH wrote:Anything digital is in delay .... listen to digital radio or watch digital tv of a game same time as analogue radio.

Web streaming even more so, to varying degrees from 7 seconds to minutes.

Calling a game via wifi rather than phone line does the same.

Not sure why, just is.



There is solution. ...... add a narrowband broadcast to the stream,

ie on 88.2FM within a couple of km's of the broadcast point

It had already been done at SANFL level both in Adelaide and when LifeFM goes interstate to enable boundary riders to hear the live call for crosses.

No reason why Life FM can't do this as well and then they can do away with ISDN lines just calling wirelessly.

Then it can be promoted that regardless of who is doing the calling at the game
you can hear a LIVE call on 88.2FM


:-BD Thanks for the response Phil. Sounds like a great idea!
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Re: Round 6 LIVE Scores

Postby Booney » Wed May 04, 2016 10:16 am

If the SANFL promoted the decisions made as much as some are defending them on here.....might not be a bad thing.

Clearly the Phil's have contact with the SANFL, clearly, so are you guys giving them any of this feedback direct?
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Re: Round 6 LIVE Scores

Postby tipper » Wed May 04, 2016 11:11 am

PhilH wrote:Anything digital is in delay .... listen to digital radio or watch digital tv of a game same time as analogue radio.

Web streaming even more so, to varying degrees from 7 seconds to minutes.

Calling a game via wifi rather than phone line does the same.

Not sure why, just is.



There is solution. ...... add a narrowband broadcast to the stream,

ie on 88.2FM within a couple of km's of the broadcast point

It had already been done at SANFL level both in Adelaide and when LifeFM goes interstate to enable boundary riders to hear the live call for crosses.

No reason why Life FM can't do this as well and then they can do away with ISDN lines just calling wirelessly.

Then it can be promoted that regardless of who is doing the calling at the game
you can hear a LIVE call on 88.2FM


the delay on a digital broadcast, i believe, is just due to the technology. im sure someone will correct me if im wrong, but due to the "digital encoding" at the transmission source, then the 'decoding" at the receiving end, a few seconds delay is introduced. i dont think anything can be done to eliminate it (possibly in the future with faster/better equipment?) as Phil has said, it just is.

sounds like your suggestion of a localised radio signal would be a good compromise for those at the game Phil. i dont personally listen to a radio call but im sure those that did would miss it. hopefully your suggestion is looked at.
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