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Round 1 (Easter) Crowds

PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:45 pm
by Squawk
Thursday night – two games
Norwood v Port – 7,560 at Coopers Stadium
West v Central – 2,971 at City Mazda Stadium

Good Friday Twilight
South v Glenelg - 4,530 at Hickinbotham Oval

Saturday Afternoon ABC Game
Sturt v Eagles - 3,156 at Envestra Park.

Total: 18,217 (average 4,554)

I think everyone would be happy with these crowds, except for WAFC!
What size crowd does Sturt need at home to break even? I have a feeling it is around 3,000 so that's a good start for them and they should get a good crowd for this week's home game vs Port at the Parade.
South would be very happy with that Crowd, especially being on Good Friday.

Re: Round 1 (Easter) Crowds

PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:04 am
by Wedgie
"especially being a Good Friday"??
More like "because it was a good Friday"!
I know a heap of people that went who haven't been to a SANFL game in years and probably won't until the next Glenelg game on a Good Friday at Noarlunga.
Hell, I would have even gone if I didn't have something else on!

Re: Round 1 (Easter) Crowds

PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:32 pm
by PhilH
Highest opening rd crowd since 2007.

3rd highes opening rd since Crows came in (other was 1995)

5,000 higher than Easter weekend last year.

3rd highest crowd at Noarlunga, biggest since 1998.

7,560 at Norwood biggest crowd at a single game since Rd 3 Norwood v Glenelg in 2011


West v Central was almost equal to last years crowd also on the Thursday Night before Easter.

Re: Round 1 (Easter) Crowds

PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:38 pm
by Mr66
Can this be a continual thread throughout this season?

Signed

Anally-retentive stats nerd.

Re: Round 1 (Easter) Crowds

PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:42 pm
by dedja
or perhaps ... anally retentive stats expert? ;)

Re: Round 1 (Easter) Crowds

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:44 pm
by DOC
For what it is worth. South say the crowd was around 5600, with all revenue from catering up 70% from last year.

Re: Round 1 (Easter) Crowds

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:47 pm
by Big Phil
DOC wrote:For what it is worth. South say the crowd was around 5600, with all revenue from catering up 70% from last year.

How did they come up with that figure? The only 2 entrances to Noarlunga were manned by SANFL officials with clicker counters. To miss 1,000 people is highly unlikely, surely?

Re: Round 1 (Easter) Crowds

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:48 pm
by topsywaldron
DOC wrote:For what it is worth. South say the crowd was around 5600, with all revenue from catering up 70% from last year.


Don't tell Bunton South are avoiding declaring revenue, he'll be onto the ATO quicker than you can say 'Mark Ross'.

Re: Round 1 (Easter) Crowds

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:00 pm
by DOC
Big Phil wrote:
DOC wrote:For what it is worth. South say the crowd was around 5600, with all revenue from catering up 70% from last year.

How did they come up with that figure? The only 2 entrances to Noarlunga were manned by SANFL officials with clicker counters. To miss 1,000 people is highly unlikely, surely?


Understand that Phil. From what I am told: The que went to the Colonnades roundabout from 40 minutes before game time. The SANFL staff, who were one selling, four checking, made efforts to speed this process up. This MAY have resulted in the under counting. For those of you who are regulars or perhaps trust the judgement of others who are regulars, about 5500 is my guess. I admit that big crowds at HO are not my forte.

Re: Round 1 (Easter) Crowds

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:37 am
by blueandwhite
It was clearly more than 4500 at Noarlunga...I arrived at halftime during the reserves and I already thought it was a big crowd, and plenty arrived at the start of the league. As Doc mentions the queue to get in was enormous right up to the time of the first bounce; I think the redcoats must have given up counting in the finish..Easily the largest crowd Ive witnessed there and apparently the 3rd largest since league footy began there. I would definitely say there were more than 5000 in attendance....

Re: Round 1 (Easter) Crowds

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:17 pm
by FOURTH ESTATE
They don't count kids

Re: Round 1 (Easter) Crowds

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:20 pm
by darley16
Yep agree with DOC and blueandwhite biggest crowd i've seen at Hicky for many years, much bigger than the corresponding game last year against Sturt. Surely this can be verified by the 70% increase in takings from the same fixture last year. Maybe there is method in the madness not to correctly count crowd numbers to keep A Demitriou and our AFL overlords from attracting their attention thereby their concern for our increased crowd numbers diverting $$$ from their all-powerful comp.

Re: Round 1 (Easter) Crowds

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:18 pm
by am Bays
blueandwhite wrote:It was clearly more than 4500 at Noarlunga...I arrived at halftime during the reserves and I already thought it was a big crowd, and plenty arrived at the start of the league. As Doc mentions the queue to get in was enormous right up to the time of the first bounce; I think the redcoats must have given up counting in the finish..Easily the largest crowd Ive witnessed there and apparently the 3rd largest since league footy began there. I would definitely say there were more than 5000 in attendance....


So you missed rd 8 1995 when over 10 000 turned up to the first game at Noarlunga? Looking around on Friday you could see it was nowhere near that.

Good crowd though.

Re: Round 1 (Easter) Crowds

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:24 pm
by whufc
am Bays wrote:
blueandwhite wrote:It was clearly more than 4500 at Noarlunga...I arrived at halftime during the reserves and I already thought it was a big crowd, and plenty arrived at the start of the league. As Doc mentions the queue to get in was enormous right up to the time of the first bounce; I think the redcoats must have given up counting in the finish..Easily the largest crowd Ive witnessed there and apparently the 3rd largest since league footy began there. I would definitely say there were more than 5000 in attendance....


So you missed rd 8 1995 when over 10 000 turned up to the first game at Noarlunga? Looking around on Friday you could see it was nowhere near that.

Good crowd though.


Wouldn't it be hard to compare considering the cars are now there

Re: Round 1 (Easter) Crowds

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:27 pm
by Ecky
blueandwhite wrote:It was clearly more than 4500 at Noarlunga...I arrived at halftime during the reserves and I already thought it was a big crowd, and plenty arrived at the start of the league. As Doc mentions the queue to get in was enormous right up to the time of the first bounce; I think the redcoats must have given up counting in the finish..Easily the largest crowd Ive witnessed there and apparently the 3rd largest since league footy began there. I would definitely say there were more than 5000 in attendance....

Given the lack of history of these types of crowds at Noarlunga, plus the added difficulty of the cars in the oval, I believe anyone who thinks they can accurately tell the difference between a 4500 and a 5000 Noarlunga crowd is either a genius or an idiot.

Re: Round 1 (Easter) Crowds

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:49 pm
by SDK
I still believe they only count people who pay at the turnstiles not people with seasons tickets and freebies.

Re: Round 1 (Easter) Crowds

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:06 pm
by PhilH
Having seen the reconciliation sheets each time the Eagles host a home game I can tell you that there is a kids section which is filled out each time.

To confirm this FYI here are the number of kids that attended (on average) each clubs home games in 2012 as part of the published crowd figures.

CHILDREN
Norwood 689.0
Glenelg 657.2
Central 469.6
Sturt 446.0
Eagles 430.3
West 387.0
North 383.5
South 375.2
Port 363.0

Re: Round 1 (Easter) Crowds

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:37 pm
by Pseudo
PhilH wrote:Having seen the reconciliation sheets each time the Eagles host a home game I can tell you that there is a kids section which is filled out each time.

To confirm this FYI here are the number of kids that attended (on average) each clubs home games in 2012 as part of the published crowd figures.

CHILDREN
Norwood 689.0
Glenelg 657.2
Central 469.6
Sturt 446.0
Eagles 430.3
West 387.0
North 383.5
South 375.2
Port 363.0


Fascinating. Am I right in thinking that that table is much the same as the table for overall attendances - with the exception of Port being last? Bit of a worry for Port, if true. Today's kids = tomorrow's members.

Re: Round 1 (Easter) Crowds

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:00 pm
by Jim05
Thats a real worrying sign for Port id imagine

Re: Round 1 (Easter) Crowds

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:21 pm
by garygroundwork
SDK wrote:I still believe they only count people who pay at the turnstiles not people with seasons tickets and freebies.


ahhh that explains why I reakon there was definitely more than 7,500 at Norwood \