SA Footy

From the SANFL site...

http://www.sanfl.com.au/news/sanfl_news/1931/

how about stop the bullshit theatrics when it comes to paying a holding the ball decision? there's 1 way of saving at least 5 minutes per game!!

One rule I would like to see implemented, is that when a ball goes out of bounds on the full, the ball had to have travelled at least 15 meters for a free kick to be paid. The boundary umpire signals the out of bounds sign (arms stretched out) but its up to the field umpire to determine whether the ball is a throw in (less then 15m) or free kick (15m or more).

My argument is that for a mark to be paid, a ball has to travel 15m or more. So why not the same for out of bounds on the full?

A couple of situations that come to mind regarding this proposed law change.

In the Nwd v Glg semi final the ball come off Nick Lower's boot directly over the boundary line and the boundary (rightly due to the rules) called out of bounds on the full and a free kick was awarded to Glg. Now I'm not asking for the rule to be changed just because Glg got a free. I believe 'Rocky' Roberts had a trick of handballing the ball onto an opposition players shins so the ball went out of bounds on the full.

Granted, a player may be tempted to kick the ball over the line when just a few meters away from the boundary line but that situation the umpire can call deliberate out of bounds if he deems it was deliberate.

Funny that the SANFL are parroting the AFL line and spruiking the virtue of changes that will supposedly speed the game up in 2013—and are seemingly going to be consistently applied across both leagues.

But they're very quiet about the big difference between SANFL and AFL that accounts for most of the difference in speed between the leagues—the far more generous (to the ball-carrier) interpretation of the HTB rule in the SANFL. If you've got the ball in a contested or tight spot and haven't really overtly tried to take an opponent on, then in SANFL you can basically accept the tackle and get a restart. Whereas for at least the last decade in the AFL they'll ping you soon as look at you in that scenario, and you have to get the ball out somehow, somewhere. Not arguing for one being better or worse—I think the difference naturally reflects the reality that most SANFL players aren't full-time professionals and so aren't able to run non-stop for 4 lots of 25 minutes; whereas most AFL players are now expected to be able to do that.

It's just amusing that they're emphasising all of these 'messing around the fringes' changes, but not mentioning the elephant in the room.

Like your suggestion nwf but hard to police.
I think the SANFL holding the ball is better than the AFL. Protect the player going for the ball and give him time to dispose of it .... after all he got the bloody thing !

Hopefully the standard of umpiring in the SANFL improves this year, in recent years it has been terrible. As much as people like to complain about the AFL umpires, the SANFL umpiring is 10 times worse

SDK, he can't get rid of it when people are on top of him

If he cant get rid of it then how can it be holding the ball ? Takes no skill to jump on top of someone.
I think prior opportunity is bullshit and has nothing to do with it. If you are tackled you have to dispose of the ball legally or attempt to.
Hate to see them trying to stop a player taking on another .... remember Michael Graham running down the field bouncing ? These days they would not let him do that in case he is grabbed and is immediately pinged even though he disposes of the ball legally in sufficient time. Phil Manassa too.
I still prefer the SANFL interpretation as they give the palyer more time.

pafc1870 wrote:Hopefully the standard of umpiring in the SANFL improves this year, in recent years it has been terrible. As much as people like to complain about the AFL umpires, the SANFL umpiring is 10 times worse

There will be changes in the umpiring this season. No umpire will be on the ground during the game, instead 1 umpire will sit in the grandstand, 1 will stand on the outer and 1 will stand behind the northern goals. Each umpire will be given a regular supply of the amber fluid throughout the game.

These changes will ensure umpiring will be spot on as we all know the best way to make decisions is when fully loaded with the amber fluid and being amongst the crowd (somewhere around the ground or in the grandstand)

pafc1870 wrote:Hopefully the standard of umpiring in the SANFL improves this year, in recent years it has been terrible. As much as people like to complain about the AFL umpires, the SANFL umpiring is 10 times worse

Couldn't agree more, far too many who have inflated egos with hidden agendas against certain players & clubs.

nwdfanparade wrote:

pafc1870 wrote:Hopefully the standard of umpiring in the SANFL improves this year, in recent years it has been terrible. As much as people like to complain about the AFL umpires, the SANFL umpiring is 10 times worse

There will be changes in the umpiring this season. No umpire will be on the ground during the game, instead 1 umpire will sit in the grandstand, 1 will stand on the outer and 1 will stand behind the northern goals. Each umpire will be given a regular supply of the amber fluid throughout the game.

These changes will ensure umpiring will be spot on as we all know the best way to make decisions is when fully loaded with the amber fluid and being amongst the crowd (somewhere around the ground or in the grandstand)

They'd want their own bulletproof pope mobile type structure otherwise their safety couldn't be guaranteed haha

Another way to quicken the game up would be to put a time limit on Set Shots for goal. The number of players taking a age to kick at goal was horrible last year.

The best rule change would be .... no more rule changes. Leave the game alone there is nothing wrong !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

leave the rules alone. FGS and mine

I tend to favour the idea that if a player is tackled in such a way that he can't get rid of the ball he is not "holding" it.

Even if the player tackled had a chance to get rid of the ball?

Nothing upsets me mote than a rule chnage!!

The Sleeping Giant wrote:Even if the player tackled had a chance to get rid of the ball?

He wasn't being tackled at that point though.

fester69 wrote:Nothing upsets me mote than a rule chnage!!

Nothing upsets me mote than bad tpyign!

topsywaldron wrote:

The Sleeping Giant wrote:Even if the player tackled had a chance to get rid of the ball?

He wasn't being tackled at that point though.

Is Psyber referring to the holding the ball decisions that are made against a player on the bottom of a pack?