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Are the Gowans twins in Centrals best 21?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:00 pm
by Dutchy
Creating a fair bit of discussion around Dogs fans at the moment, if most of the squad is fit and available a few think they are not!

I reckon you would have at least one in there for experience, but could you carry both?

What do you think?

Re: Are the Gowans twins in Centrals best 21?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:06 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
well if its the GF, they will both play.

I know I would be. there are no better antagonisers in the competition then those 2.

Re: Are the Gowans twins in Centrals best 21?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:12 pm
by Big Phil
Yes.

Re: Are the Gowans twins in Centrals best 21?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:18 pm
by Brodlach
Doesnt really matter if they are or not because the Dogs keep winning with or without them.

Re: Are the Gowans twins in Centrals best 21?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:30 pm
by Slots It Through
Big Phil wrote:Yes.


Phil, i would be interested in seeing your best 21.

Re: Are the Gowans twins in Centrals best 21?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:31 pm
by Booney
Phil?

Re: Are the Gowans twins in Centrals best 21?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:36 pm
by smac
Barely. Based on 'what else' they bring to the team.

Re: Are the Gowans twins in Centrals best 21?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:52 pm
by Big Phil
Slots It Through wrote:
Big Phil wrote:Yes.


Phil, i would be interested in seeing your best 21.


Based on knowing that a few players are unlikely to make it back from injury before finals, it would probably be something like this:

FF: J.Gowans - J.Hardy - T.Menzel
HF: J.Schiller - J.Lawton - C.Gowans
CL: K.Jenner - R.Williams - B.O'Hara
HB: B.Symes - T.Collier - E.Sansbury
FB: P.Marschall - Y.Sibenaler - P.Thomas

1R: J.Hannath - J.Boyd - T.Goodrem

INT: C.Milne - L.Habel - J.Templeton

With the likes of L.Barmby, J.Sutherland, A.Obst, A.Hayes, T.Dunne, J.Nash and B.Nason also coming back from injury, any of them could slot into the mix but haven't played a lot of footy this year. IF there were no injuries for the Dogs at all, I'd love to see Central's Reserves side, that would be a strong one !!!

That side above is what I see to be a more realistic team to participate in finals action.

What do you see as the Maggies best line-up, Slots It Through?

Re: Are the Gowans twins in Centrals best 21?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:12 pm
by Slots It Through
Big Phil wrote:
Slots It Through wrote:
Big Phil wrote:Yes.


Phil, i would be interested in seeing your best 21.


Based on knowing that a few players are unlikely to make it back from injury before finals, it would probably be something like this:

FF: J.Gowans - J.Hardy - T.Menzel
HF: J.Schiller - J.Lawton - C.Gowans
CL: K.Jenner - R.Williams - B.O'Hara
HB: B.Symes - T.Collier - E.Sansbury
FB: P.Marschall - Y.Sibenaler - P.Thomas

1R: J.Hannath - J.Boyd - T.Goodrem

INT: C.Milne - L.Habel - J.Templeton

With the likes of L.Barmby, J.Sutherland, A.Obst, A.Hayes, T.Dunne, J.Nash and B.Nason also coming back from injury, any of them could slot into the mix but haven't played a lot of footy this year. IF there were no injuries for the Dogs at all, I'd love to see Central's Reserves side, that would be a strong one !!!

That side above is what I see to be a more realistic team to participate in finals action.

What do you see as the Maggies best line-up, Slots It Through?


I think Friday nights side is just about our best side, except after 56 possessions Summo comes in for someone. Banner may push someone out in coming weeks, but the only other debate is whether Robson or Cockshell play.

Re: Are the Gowans twins in Centrals best 21?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:15 pm
by Big Phil
Slots It Through wrote:What do you see as the Maggies best line-up, Slots It Through?

Big Phil wrote:I think Friday nights side is just about our best side, except after 56 possessions Summo comes in for someone. Banner may push someone out in coming weeks, but the only other debate is whether Robson or Cockshell play.


Yeah, agreed there...

Re: Are the Gowans twins in Centrals best 21?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:18 pm
by Hodges 153!
Slots It Through wrote:I think Friday nights side is just about our best side, except after 56 possessions Summo comes in for someone. Banner may push someone out in coming weeks, but the only other debate is whether Robson or Cockshell play.


How close is Louie Sharrad to getting another game?

Got 40 odd last week, and named in best most weeks?

Unlucky to be behind the two you've named?

Re: Are the Gowans twins in Centrals best 21?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:28 pm
by UK Fan
Dutchy wrote:Creating a fair bit of discussion around Dogs fans at the moment, if most of the squad is fit and available a few think they are not!

I reckon you would have at least one in there for experience, but could you carry both?

What do you think?


Yes

Re: Are the Gowans twins in Centrals best 21?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:29 pm
by Big Phil
Booney wrote:Phil?

What, mate?

Re: Are the Gowans twins in Centrals best 21?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:32 pm
by Dog_ger
Dutchy wrote:Creating a fair bit of discussion around Dogs fans at the moment, if most of the squad is fit and available a few think they are not!

I reckon you would have at least one in there for experience, but could you carry both?

What do you think?


I presume this is the best team of 2012. :D

They would both be in my 2012 GrandFinal team.

Their Last. ;) :D

No Contracts as players in 2013. :D

Will stay in SA in 2013. :D

Has there been any contact from other clubs, not as players?

Eagles...? ;)

Re: Are the Gowans twins in Centrals best 21?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:50 pm
by whufc
Im not as certain as others. I would love for both Gowans to be in the side come finals but honestly i think there would have to still be some players out for both to play.

The boys have never been the quickest but really have lacked any form of pace and watching the replay of the game from the weekend there were a fair few occasions where the opposition almost 'walked' past them. While they generally play on the edge and get the white line fever they have been very undisciplined this year a seem to be very frustrated. The Central line up certainly lacks pace and for both to play will mean someone like Habel misses out.

The pros they bring is experience, big game performances, value for possesions, and an ability to find space in the forward 50.

My best 21 with everyone fit not including AFL listed players would be (though you would think Symes would be pretty close to certain to play for the Dogs come finals)

F: Hayes Hardy Menzel
HF: C.Gowans/J.Gowans Obst Habel
C: Williams Goodrem Jenner
HB: Sansbury Collier O'Hara
B: Marschall Sibenaler/Hynes Barmby

R: Hannath Thomas Boyd
INT: Sutherland/Milne Schiller/OBrien Dutschke

Re: Are the Gowans twins in Centrals best 21?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:53 pm
by CENTURION
Why would anyone consider playing Obst? He has been out for over a year with a major injury & still hasn't played a reserves game!

Re: Are the Gowans twins in Centrals best 21?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:57 pm
by whufc
CENTURION wrote:Why would anyone consider playing Obst? He has been out for over a year with a major injury & still hasn't played a reserves game!


True but im sure Obst is itching to get out and have a kick. In our current situation of only having one real finals ready tall forward if he wants to have a kick in the ressies and then form warrants he would have to be considered.

Re: Are the Gowans twins in Centrals best 21?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:02 pm
by Big Phil
whufc wrote:
CENTURION wrote:Why would anyone consider playing Obst? He has been out for over a year with a major injury & still hasn't played a reserves game!


True but im sure Obst is itching to get out and have a kick. In our current situation of only having one real finals ready tall forward if he wants to have a kick in the ressies and then form warrants he would have to be considered.


According to Localfootysa, Obst is still 5 weeks away and is no guarantee of playing at all this season...

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl ... 6438006023

Jai Bednall, in his MMCM article, wrote:
DOGS' MEDICAL REPORT

The potential for Central to regain a host of key personnel is one of the only things keeping the premiership race exciting right now.

So how are all the wounded Dogs tracking? Here's the current prognosis.

AVAILABLE

Luke Barmby (adductor) - Barmby has played the past two games in the reserves and is close to being considered for league selection.


TWO WEEKS

Ben Nason (back), Troy Menzel (groin) and Chris Gowans (knee) - This trio is expected to be available after this weekend's bye. You'd expect Nason and Menzel to start in the reserves, Gowans may be a chance to slot straight back into the league side.


THREE WEEKS

Tom Dunne (groin) and Jay Nash (quad) - Dunne was ready to return from a hamstring injury against Glenelg but pulled up with groin soreness after training last Wednesday. The Dogs will take a cautious approach and aim for his - and Nash's - return in round 21 against South.


FOUR WEEKS

Andrew Hayes (shoulder) and Jason Sutherland (calf) - Hayes was experiencing difficulty lifting his arm above his head but has improved rapidly in the past fortnight. If everything goes right he may get back by round 22 against Sturt, but with a bye in round 23 the Dogs may keep him out until their final minor round clash with North. Sutherland's chances of returning before finals are also dicey.


FIVE WEEKS

Alan Obst (knee) - Obst only started running last week and is the most unlikely of Central's players to return this season. It's really important Central's reserves - currently with a game and a half lead in fifth position - make the finals so if Obst needs another week before returning to the league side he can have it in the Twos.


All of these players carry varying levels of importance to Central's side and will obviously have differing success in their attempts to have an impact in the league side.

But if the Dogs can get more than half of them fit and firing it will make them a far more dangerous opponent for Norwood.

Re: Are the Gowans twins in Centrals best 21?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:06 pm
by CENTURION
Out of that lot, I wouldn't expect to see Pumpa, Hayes or Obst back in the side.

Re: Are the Gowans twins in Centrals best 21?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:07 pm
by whufc
Mate the day i believe media reports about player injuries is the day i belive in eskimos. ;)