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Will be intersting to see the tribunal this week.

In the Central vs Sturt reserves game a Central player took the ball a metre to a metre and a half over the boundary line in the north western pocket. He was then pushed by the Sturt player which forced the Central player to jump the boundary fence onto the concrete to save himself from smashing into the fence.

I wonder whether the Sturt player will be given a one match suspension similar to Jason Sutherland who recieved the same punishment for an indetical incident last week replacing fence for brick wall.

I will be interested to see the outcome!

Who was the Sturt player? Does he have a bad record as far as suspensions go?

Would rather hit a fence than a brick wall personally

Dutchy wrote:Would rather hit a fence than a brick wall personally

Would almost rather hit a brick wall then another players elbow or knee. Whats happens if you push another player into a player knees and an injury occures like James Hird recieved.

Surely pushing a bloke over the boundary line is the same whether there is a fence/brick wall/ concrete/grass there.

Dutchy wrote:Would rather hit a fence than a brick wall personally

I reckon a fence did more damage at the Parade last week than the brick wall...

Poor act..fine or game(s)

Without seeing either incident terribly well (the Sturt one not at all, Sutherland's from the other side of the ground) you'd think it would be viewed similarly if they are indeed both so similar. But then again, I thought jumping at a bloke from front on without looking at the ball was suspension type stuff.

whufc wrote:

Dutchy wrote:Would rather hit a fence than a brick wall personally

Surely pushing a bloke over the boundary line is the same whether there is a fence/brick wall/ concrete/grass there.

Hammers, have you not noticed how much softer grass is than bricks?

therisingblues wrote:

whufc wrote:

Dutchy wrote:Would rather hit a fence than a brick wall personally

Surely pushing a bloke over the boundary line is the same whether there is a fence/brick wall/ concrete/grass there.

Hammers, have you not noticed how much softer grass is than bricks?

My point more is what rule says pushing a player who then has to jump over the fence and land on the concrete is lesser than pushing someone when there is a brick wall over the boundary line.

Further if the Norwood player wasnt injured from the brick wall but the Central player slipped when jumping the concrete and smashed his head open would that change the punishment.

whufc wrote:

therisingblues wrote:

whufc wrote:

Dutchy wrote:Would rather hit a fence than a brick wall personally

Surely pushing a bloke over the boundary line is the same whether there is a fence/brick wall/ concrete/grass there.

Hammers, have you not noticed how much softer grass is than bricks?

My point more is what rule says pushing a player who then has to jump over the fence and land on the concrete is lesser than pushing someone when there is a brick wall over the boundary line.

Further if the Norwood player wasnt injured from the brick wall but the Central player slipped when jumping the concrete and smashed his head open would that change the punishment.

I guess an impartial judge would go on intent, potential danger and actual result. If a player was pushed into a fence with so much force that (had he not jumped) the momentum would have caused him to flip over the top of it, pivoting on his guts and then fall on top of his head before finally landing flat on his back, the aggressor would be penalised for actual and intended injuries. If the player hurdles the fence, escaping those injuries, then the penalty would be less but still severe owing to the potential damages and the reckless intent, the fact that the player escaped injury should be a factor IMO. If the player was pushed with the same amount of force into a brick wall, he'd be unable to hurdle it, this would add to intent IMO, he would also be unable to spend momentum flipping over it, which would buffet the potential injuries. If he were to be pushed with such force into a brick wall and he couldn't get his hands up in time he'd suffer some sort of concussion.
But to be fair to your argument, there'd be cases where a player was pushed with just enough force to tip him over the fence, I've seen players who weren't pushed that were sometimes unable to pull up in time and didn't quite have the balance to prevent tipping over, if that were a brick wall I imagine they'd be able to fend it off with their hands pretty easily.
There's too many circumstances to consider to be able to generalize and say one is worse than the other. Definitely case by case. A player could be crouched over with no hope of getting his balance and then receives a push into either a wall or fence, without being privy to the details I couldn't say which is worse.