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Port v North - MATCH REVIEW - round 8

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 11:01 pm
by whufc
Match Review

Re: Ummm Did North Play Port Today

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 11:04 pm
by Mr66
I know the score, thanks to Locky's great efforts.
Port 13.11.89 d North 11.13.79.
Other than that, BUBKUS!!

Re: Ummm Did North Play Port Today

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 11:12 pm
by mickey
Magpies played a lot better than previously, both teams butchered shots at goal all day, James Allan will have a week off, cocks supporters sooked big time while leaving, TSG told me to shut my mouth after bagging an umpire in the live scores thread..

Re: Ummm Did North Play Port Today

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 11:18 pm
by whufc
mickey wrote:Magpies played a lot better than previously, both teams butchered shots at goal all day, James Allan will have a week off, cocks supporters sooked big time while leaving, TSG told me to shut my mouth after bagging an umpire in the live scores thread..


Will that mean Jimmy 'Magarey' Allan will now be known as Jimmy 'previous winner magarey' Allan

THUG!!!!! ;)

Re: Port v North - MATCH REVIEW - round 8

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 11:40 pm
by Sojourner
Not sure why it is, but North seem to play in a way that the players appear disinterested. One gets the feeling that they are capable of playing to a much higher standard, but rarely get into top gear on the field and take the game when its there. Irrespective of what the reasons are, the buck stops with Josh Francou and NAFC members are entitled to expect more from him than what they are currently getting on the field. Francou had plenty to say in the media prior to being given the job....

As for Port, they played some good footy today and were rewarded for it accordingly. Considering many people regard their list as "thin", They still seem to be able to win anyway.

Re: Re: Ummm Did North Play Port Today

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 1:29 am
by The Sleeping Giant
mickey wrote:Magpies played a lot better than previously, both teams butchered shots at goal all day, James Allan will have a week off, cocks supporters sooked big time while leaving, TSG told me to shut my mouth after bagging an umpire in the live scores thread..

Well deserved win by the magpies. A more even team performance.

North rely on too few, and missed too many easy shots on goal.

Forgot to put a winkie on the end of my post for mickey. ;-)

Re: Re: Port v North - MATCH REVIEW - round 8

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 1:33 am
by The Sleeping Giant
Sojourner wrote:Not sure why it is, but North seem to play in a way that the players appear disinterested. One gets the feeling that they are capable of playing to a much higher standard, but rarely get into top gear on the field and take the game when its there. Irrespective of what the reasons are, the buck stops with Josh Francou and NAFC members are entitled to expect more from him than what they are currently getting on the field. Francou had plenty to say in the media prior to being given the job....

You don't know what you're talking about. Players are showing a heap more endeavour under Francou. Some players out there are inexperienced or not up to standard yet.

Re: Port v North - MATCH REVIEW - round 8

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 2:10 am
by mal
Last quarter today
25 minute mark
PA 89
NA 79
NA have a sniff after being a few goals down in this qtr
Boundary Ump throws the ball in
Does it poorly
Umpire makes him throw it back in again
This time it drops short of the ruckmen
The ball lands right into James Allan hands on the full
James Allan possesses the football
James Allan is tackled at the same instant from behind by Mieklejohn
No opportunity, and its holding derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ball


Stoopid rule this grabbing the ball from a throw in and getting pinged if an opponent tackles you within a half a second with as little needed as a fingernail
A multi talented footballer instinctively gets the ball, as his instincts would have him do, and gets pinged

QUESTION
The way the rule is set up,James Allan was rightly pinged for holding the ball
The question is what should James Allan do next time he is in the same situation ?

Re: Port v North - MATCH REVIEW - round 8

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 4:30 am
by Goat Herder
mal wrote:The question is what should James Allanaide do next time he is in the same situation ?


Let the opposition ruckman grab it , coz they're not overly bright folk at the best of times. ;) Then lay a tackle! :lol:

Agreed mate. Dumb rule. :roll:

Re: Port v North - MATCH REVIEW - round 8

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 9:15 am
by Wedgie
Only North can outplay their opposition for three quarters and still lose. Mind you Ports first quarter was easily the most dominant of any side for the game.

Re: Port v North - MATCH REVIEW - round 8

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 10:30 am
by Agile
When is Blee gunna get a game with the Power. Hope its soon.

Re: Port v North - MATCH REVIEW - round 8

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 11:06 am
by Macca19
NOt sure what the crowd number was but it looked pretty disappointing at the ground. Looked like one of the lowest I've seen at alberton.

Was a good win. North always threatened to get in front in the last three quarters but Port steadied each time and always seemed to get back out to a 2-3 goal lead. There was quite a bit of feeling in the match in the first quarter. Didn't quite catch the Allan incident but apparently he elbowed someone in the face off the ball. Quite a number of times players of both sides were coming off the ground together and getting involved in some verbal, and Cockshell and Bennett had a wrestle as they crossed the line for the interchange gates.

Was a pretty good contest really. A case of all played well for Port. Gray, Summerton, Beard, Raikiwasa, Rose, Biacsi, Slattery well all good. Wilson had by far his best game of the year and actually looked like a league footballer. Played a lot up the ground and got a lot of kicks on a wing.

For North, Allan got a lot of the ball but not sure he was all that damaging with it, Bennett I thought was clear best player for North. Just tried to will his team over the line. Moore had a great last three quarters. Miles was good, Clinch had a huge last quarter and was the key in Norths comeback and Ryswyk ran all day and provided head aches for Port going forward.

As I said, it looked likely that North was going to pinch it a few times in the second half and with 8 points in it with a couple of minutes left, Meiklejohn from a free kick just outside the 50 decided to kick the ball sideways which was cut off, North had players streaming forward everywhere but just couldn't goal from it. Would have made things interesting had they gaoled from that foray forward.

Nice to see the Pies get up in a close one.

Re: Port v North - MATCH REVIEW - round 8

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 11:30 am
by Dying Swan
mal wrote:Last quarter today
25 minute mark
PA 89
NA 79
NA have a sniff after being a few goals down in this qtr
Boundary Ump throws the ball in
Does it poorly
Umpire makes him throw it back in again
This time it drops short of the ruckmen
The ball lands right into James Allan hands on the full
James Allan possesses the football
James Allan is tackled at the same instant from behind by Mieklejohn
No opportunity, and its holding derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ball


Stoopid rule this grabbing the ball from a throw in and getting pinged if an opponent tackles you within a half a second with as little needed as a fingernail
A multi talented footballer instinctively gets the ball, as his instincts would have him do, and gets pinged

QUESTION
The way the rule is set up,James Allan was rightly pinged for holding the ball
The question is what should James Allan do next time he is in the same situation ?


Law 15.2.3 (c) Except in the instance of a poor bounce or throw, a Player who takes possession of the football while contesting a
bounce or throw by a field Umpire or a boundary throw in, shall be regarded as having had prior opportunity. - the throw in where Allan was pinged was the second after the first was recalled as stated above, and the second also was a poor throw in. If he was the only one who could take control of the ball - wrong decision for HTB!

Re: Port v North - MATCH REVIEW - round 8

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 12:12 pm
by RustyCage
Dying Swan wrote:
mal wrote:Last quarter today
25 minute mark
PA 89
NA 79
NA have a sniff after being a few goals down in this qtr
Boundary Ump throws the ball in
Does it poorly
Umpire makes him throw it back in again
This time it drops short of the ruckmen
The ball lands right into James Allan hands on the full
James Allan possesses the football
James Allan is tackled at the same instant from behind by Mieklejohn
No opportunity, and its holding derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ball


Stoopid rule this grabbing the ball from a throw in and getting pinged if an opponent tackles you within a half a second with as little needed as a fingernail
A multi talented footballer instinctively gets the ball, as his instincts would have him do, and gets pinged

QUESTION
The way the rule is set up,James Allan was rightly pinged for holding the ball
The question is what should James Allan do next time he is in the same situation ?


Law 15.2.3 (c) Except in the instance of a poor bounce or throw, a Player who takes possession of the football while contesting a
bounce or throw by a field Umpire or a boundary throw in, shall be regarded as having had prior opportunity. - the throw in where Allan was pinged was the second after the first was recalled as stated above, and the second also was a poor throw in. If he was the only one who could take control of the ball - wrong decision for HTB!


The umpire is supposed to call play on if it is a bad throw in before the ball arrives at the ruck contest and then the ball can be grabbed and it's not holding the ball. The ump didn't call play on so the HTB was correct. The umpire was wrong in not calling play on though.

Re: Port v North - MATCH REVIEW - round 8

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 12:13 pm
by RustyCage
Wilson's non goal in the last quarter looked like it went pretty much straight through the middle when I saw it on a replay after the game.

Re: Port v North - MATCH REVIEW - round 8

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 12:15 pm
by RustyCage
Macca19 wrote:As I said, it looked likely that North was going to pinch it a few times in the second half and with 8 points in it with a couple of minutes left, Meiklejohn from a free kick just outside the 50 decided to kick the ball sideways which was cut off, North had players streaming forward everywhere but just couldn't goal from it. Would have made things interesting had they gaoled from that foray forward.


I don't know what the big guy was thinking! It's not the first time he has done it this year either. Just get it in there!

Re: Port v North - MATCH REVIEW - round 8

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 12:37 pm
by Agile
pafc1870 wrote:Wilson's non goal in the last quarter looked like it went pretty much straight through the middle when I saw it on a replay after the game.

Was right behind that kick and it was clearly a goal. Went about a foot inside the left goal post from our view. Goal umpire would have had the sun in his eyes I reckon.

Re: Port v North - MATCH REVIEW - round 8

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 12:47 pm
by Dying Swan
pafc1870 wrote:
Dying Swan wrote:
mal wrote:Last quarter today
25 minute mark
PA 89
NA 79
NA have a sniff after being a few goals down in this qtr
Boundary Ump throws the ball in
Does it poorly
Umpire makes him throw it back in again
This time it drops short of the ruckmen
The ball lands right into James Allan hands on the full
James Allan possesses the football
James Allan is tackled at the same instant from behind by Mieklejohn
No opportunity, and its holding derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr ball


Stoopid rule this grabbing the ball from a throw in and getting pinged if an opponent tackles you within a half a second with as little needed as a fingernail
A multi talented footballer instinctively gets the ball, as his instincts would have him do, and gets pinged

QUESTION
The way the rule is set up,James Allan was rightly pinged for holding the ball
The question is what should James Allan do next time he is in the same situation ?


Law 15.2.3 (c) Except in the instance of a poor bounce or throw, a Player who takes possession of the football while contesting a
bounce or throw by a field Umpire or a boundary throw in, shall be regarded as having had prior opportunity. - the throw in where Allan was pinged was the second after the first was recalled as stated above, and the second also was a poor throw in. If he was the only one who could take control of the ball - wrong decision for HTB!


The umpire is supposed to call play on if it is a bad throw in before the ball arrives at the ruck contest and then the ball can be grabbed and it's not holding the ball. The ump didn't call play on so the HTB was correct. The umpire was wrong in not calling play on though.


Show me where the umpire is supposed to call play on http://afl.com.au/Portals/0/2012/AM_696 ... L_laws.pdf

You are perhaps getting confused with Law 11.3.6

It was the wrong decision like many others during the day (for both sides) and the umpiring continues to be appalling.

Port v North - MATCH REVIEW - round 8

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 1:43 pm
by Macca19
pafc1870 wrote:Wilson's non goal in the last quarter looked like it went pretty much straight through the middle when I saw it on a replay after the game.


There was a north goal in the 2nd quarter which looked like it went about 2 foot wide of the goal post and was paid a goal . The north fans near us ( in the line of the ball) thoight it was hilarious

Re: Port v North - MATCH REVIEW - round 8

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 7:21 pm
by whufc
Im not a stats man but is Bennetts 17 clearances for North some kind of record or something!