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State Of Clubs

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:14 pm
by jumbo20
How are our SANFL clubs doing financially?Is there any clubs in a degree of strife

Re: State Of Clubs

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:40 pm
by gossipgirl
all stuffed ... too much carbon

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:05 pm
by MightyEagles
Eagles are in good shape.

Re: State Of Clubs

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:05 pm
by Dog_ger
All Clubs are struggling.

All Bussinesses are strugling in the South Australian Climate.

All Families are struggling.

All individuals are struggling.

Labour has crippled this state.

And our government can't pay its own bills to its suppliers.... :oops:

Re: State Of Clubs

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:09 pm
by dedja
My club and family are fine.

As an individual I'm fine.

Can you change the word 'all' to 'some'?

:roll:

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:12 pm
by Dog_ger
dedja wrote:My club and family are fine.

As an individual I'm fine.

Can you change the word 'all' to 'some'?

:roll:


Maybe the government after reading this should tax the dedja family more.... :-? :D ;)

Re: State Of Clubs

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:56 pm
by RB
I don't want to get too off topic, but your statements are mostly wildly wrong, Dog_ger. Most Australian families and individuals are doing extremely well compared to those in other countries. Most businesses in SA are making profits. And Labor doesn't have a 'u' in it.

Re: State Of Clubs

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:09 pm
by SDK
I does if you are having a baby !

Re: State Of Clubs

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:12 pm
by SDK
Profit and loss is just an accountant's interpretation. What do we write off this year ? What shall we transfer from one account to another ? Try reading a Norwood Profit & Loss and you will see what I mean !

The real situation is .... is a Club liquid ? Can it pay it's bills ?

Re: State Of Clubs

PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:23 pm
by PhilH
I don't think any SANFL club has the luxury of relaxing on their finances.

It's all about degrees of worry.

The pokie reform delay is one bullet bitten but dont forget over the next 12 months the AFL & SANFL will be reveiwing the governance structure of SA Football in the Adelaide Oval era. The effect on the annual club dividend will is a worry.

A lot of clubs have also invested in lighting in recent times, (West, Norwood, Glenelg, Central & South). Will the crowds increase by enough to cover that debt incurred.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:46 pm
by devilsadvocate
SDK wrote:Profit and loss is just an accountant's interpretation. What do we write off this year ? What shall we transfer from one account to another ? Try reading a Norwood Profit & Loss and you will see what I mean !

The real situation is .... is a Club liquid ? Can it pay it's bills ?


:shock: Who's doing your books? :shock:

AASB
IFRS

Re: State Of Clubs

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:56 am
by bulldogproud2
SDK wrote:Profit and loss is just an accountant's interpretation. What do we write off this year ? What shall we transfer from one account to another ? Try reading a Norwood Profit & Loss and you will see what I mean !

The real situation is .... is a Club liquid ? Can it pay it's bills ?


Heck, then we are all doing okay - have seen plenty of liquid in an amber colour at most of our clubs!! ;)

Re: State Of Clubs

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:14 am
by topsywaldron
Dog_ger wrote:All Clubs are struggling.

All Bussinesses are strugling in the South Australian Climate.

All Families are struggling.

All individuals are struggling.

Labour has crippled this state.

And our government can't pay its own bills to its suppliers.... :oops:


Totally disagree on every level. Partisan posturing.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:04 am
by story of my life
Dog_ger wrote:All Clubs are struggling.

All Bussinesses are strugling in the South Australian Climate.

All Families are struggling.

All individuals are struggling.

Labour has crippled this state.

And our government can't pay its own bills to its suppliers.... :oops:


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Re: State Of Clubs

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:19 am
by bulldogproud2
topsywaldron wrote:
Dog_ger wrote:All Clubs are struggling.

All Bussinesses are strugling in the South Australian Climate.

All Families are struggling.

All individuals are struggling.

Labour has crippled this state.

And our government can't pay its own bills to its suppliers.... :oops:


Totally disagree on every level. Partisan posturing.


Agreed. Australia currently is enjoying the best economic conditions of any Western country. I would much rather be here than anywhere in Europe, the US, New Zealand, Canada etc at the moment.

Re: State Of Clubs

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:33 am
by Booney
PhilH wrote:I don't think any SANFL club has the luxury of relaxing on their finances.

It's all about degrees of worry.

The pokie reform delay is one bullet bitten but dont forget over the next 12 months the AFL & SANFL will be reveiwing the governance structure of SA Football in the Adelaide Oval era. The effect on the annual club dividend will is a worry.

A lot of clubs have also invested in lighting in recent times, (West, Norwood, Glenelg, Central & South).

Will the crowds increase by enough to cover that debt incurred.


What would night games do to the average crowd attandance? Increase by 500 people for arguments sake.

500*12 - $6000 by 4 games a year? $24000 or thereabouts. How much does the SANFL keep of that?

Re: State Of Clubs

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:57 am
by Pseudo
Booney wrote:500*12 - $6000 by 4 games a year? $24000 or thereabouts. How much does the SANFL keep of that?


On this thread on Snouts it was suggested that any crowd difference between Saturday night's Glenelg game, and the same game staged as a "twilight match", would have been about 2000.

Nevertheless I reckon the SANFL takes all the match day receipts and distributes this among all of the clubs.

The real bonus would be in the catering. If each of the 2000 extra punters bought an overpriced steak sandwich and a couple of beers, then there'd be another 20 clams per head in the takings. 2000*20*4 = $160000, none of which would be taxed by the SANFL.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:00 pm
by Booney
Pseudo wrote:
Booney wrote:500*12 - $6000 by 4 games a year? $24000 or thereabouts. How much does the SANFL keep of that?


On this thread on Snouts it was suggested that any crowd difference between Saturday night's Glenelg game, and the same game staged as a "twilight match", would have been about 2000.

Nevertheless I reckon the SANFL takes all the match day receipts and distributes this among all of the clubs.

The real bonus would be in the catering. If each of the 2000 extra punters bought an overpriced steak sandwich and a couple of beers, then there'd be another 20 clams per head in the takings. 2000*20*4 = $160000, none of which would be taxed by the SANFL.


I did consider the consumable side of things, less costs etc and was thinking an extra allowance should be made.

You blokes think it adds 2000 bums-on-seats / feet-on-hills to a game?

The SANFL will also, ha, I was going to say mindful but in all reality the word is oblivious, to this and want a share. :D

Re: State Of Clubs

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:16 pm
by Psyber
RB wrote:I don't want to get too off topic, but your statements are mostly wildly wrong, Dog_ger. Most Australian families and individuals are doing extremely well compared to those in other countries. Most businesses in SA are making profits. And Labor doesn't have a 'u' in it.
You can trust "Labor" to take the YOU out of the country too. ;)
Like dedja, I'm doing fine - in my case because I already own my home - but I could do with a rate rise from the RBA to support my Superannuation Fund for the longer term.

In the meantime I've decided to take a tip from the pollies and help myself.
I'm negotiating intermittent contract work which will pay me almost as well as them.

Back on topic, I've rejoined the Norwood Football Club, but don't yet know what their financial state is.
It's been a month and I haven't even got the receipt yet...
(But they have had a hectic pre-season I guess.)

Re: State Of Clubs

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:27 pm
by Ecky
Booney wrote:You blokes think it adds 2000 bums-on-seats / feet-on-hills to a game?

Just to clarify what I wrote on Snouts, I suggested that the initial night game at Glenelg increased the crowd by approximately 2000 on that day. Obviously the difference in crowds between day and night games would decrease over time once the initial novelty of night matches wears off (as has happened at other grounds).