Only occasionally get beaten in Grand Finals this century and when they do they usually turn it around, will they continue the trend?
They appear to be pretty settled with minimal movement in the off season.
Will they be too old and too slow? Will the Gowans lads play their last season so this can be about their 5th last season in a row?
Still short with the bookies and mixed form in the 2 trials so far (one to come this coming weekend against the Bays) with a big loss to Port but a comfortable win over the Roosters.
There's some whispers that Troy Menzel could be playing footy similar to his older brother at Geelong this year, will they continue to bring great players in from their juniors?
2012 Squad:
Bottin-Noonan, Waldhunter, Varcoe, O'Sullivan, Hardy, Boyd, Jenner, Goodrem, Sansbury, Dutschke, Milne, Nason, Thomas, Nash, O'Brien, Obst, Chris Gowans, Hayes, Matthew Westhoff, Habel, Dunne, Templeton, James Gowans, Collier, Sutherland, Musolino, Lawton, Hannath, Marschall, Williams, Hynes, Sibelaner, Jarrod Schiller, Vater, Menzel, Reichert, hay, Barmby, Prior, Colquhoun, O'Hara, Orval, Travis Schiller, Haydon, Cullen, Claughton.
IN: Dylan Orval (Mini Draft - Crows), Ben Nason (Richmond / Returning), Tom Collier (Brisbane Lions), Jackson O'Brien (Clarence), James Lawton (Coburg)
OUT: Daniel Havelberg (WA - Work), Lee Spurr (Fremantle), Nick White (North Adelaide), Ash Duncan (NT Thunder), Jack Gunston (Crows to Hawthorn)
2012 Trial Games Form:
Bye
Lost to Port 15.7 to 5.3
Defeated North 12.10 to 10.6
Sportebet.com.au premiership odds:
$3.25
2012 Draw (Home games in all bold):
Bye, Norwood, West, South, Port, Eagles, Bye, Glenelg, North, Sturt, West, Port, Glenelg, Eagles, Norwood, Sturt, Port, Glenelg, Bye, West, South, Sturt, Bye, North.
B&F 2011: 1. Eddie Sansbury, 2. Lee Spurr, 3. Paul Thomas
Leading Goalkicker 2011: Daniel Havelburg 51