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Final Five

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:28 pm
by CENTURION
With a 9 team competition, surely we should have less sides in the finals than don't make the finals? Opinions please.

Re: Final Five

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:31 pm
by The Sleeping Giant
Would prefer a top 4, but sometimes, the team finishing minor premiers shouldn't be there either. ;)

Re: Final Five

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:50 pm
by HOORAY PUNT
Top 5 is fine plus a top 4 would reduce the season by a week which is not good for our GF.

Re: Final Five

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:51 pm
by CENTURION
start a week later?

Re: Final Five

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:55 pm
by sapaul
Had a final 4 in 2003. No idea why they reverted back to 5?

Re: Final Five

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:02 pm
by CENTURION
sapaul wrote:Had a final 4 in 2003. No idea why they reverted back to 5?

maybe Port sooked? Didn't they come 5th that year?

Re: Final Five

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:10 pm
by johntheclaret
CENTURION wrote:With a 9 team competition, surely we should have less sides in the finals than don't make the finals? Opinions please.


Keeps it interesting for a few more supporters, and there is nothing wrong in that.

Re: Final Five

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:13 pm
by mighty_tiger_79
keep the final 5, or perhaps revert to a final 8, give glenelg a chance to make it :roll:

Re: Final Five

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:15 pm
by HOORAY PUNT
What have you got against Sturt MT ? Oh well a final means we just miss the finals I suppose.

Re: Final Five

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:30 pm
by Zathrus
johntheclaret wrote:
CENTURION wrote:With a 9 team competition, surely we should have less sides in the finals than don't make the finals? Opinions please.


Keeps it interesting for a few more supporters, and there is nothing wrong in that.


In that case make it a final 6 or even 8

stuff that, it should be a final 4. Why should an average team, quite possibly with more losses than wins, be rewarded with a finals berth

Its money. Two more finals.

Re: Final Five

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:32 pm
by Harry the Horse
Old argument. No thanks.

Re: Final Five

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:33 pm
by johntheclaret
Zathrus wrote:
johntheclaret wrote:
CENTURION wrote:With a 9 team competition, surely we should have less sides in the finals than don't make the finals? Opinions please.


Keeps it interesting for a few more supporters, and there is nothing wrong in that.


In that case make it a final 6 or even 8

stuff that, it should be a final 4. Why should an average team, quite possibly with more losses than wins, be rewarded with a finals berth

Its money. Two more finals.


Why not just make it two teams then?
If you are talking about average teams making finals, I'd say there have been 8 of them for the last few years. ;)

Re: Final Five

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:35 pm
by Brucetiki
sapaul wrote:Had a final 4 in 2003. No idea why they reverted back to 5?


Because it was a disaster. All finals were standalone played in front of very poor crowds. Common sense prevailed and the final 5 was reinstated in 2004.

Also, the top 5 is more rewarding for the minor premier and top 3. With a top 4, makes no difference if you finish top or second, plus it's a bit harsh on the team finishing 3rd as they lose their double chance. Also, everyone gets a week off at some stage of the finals if it's a final 4, again not rewarding the minor premier.

Keep the top 5 as is.

Re: Final Five

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:56 pm
by Zathrus
Brucetiki wrote:
sapaul wrote:Had a final 4 in 2003. No idea why they reverted back to 5?


Because it was a disaster. All finals were standalone played in front of very poor crowds. Common sense prevailed and the final 5 was reinstated in 2004.


How was it a disaster? If the SANFL chose to make the first and second semis stand alone it was their own silly fault. They should be a double header as they are now. And isn't the prelimary final standalone anyway.

Brucetiki wrote:Also, the top 5 is more rewarding for the minor premier and top 3. With a top 4, makes no difference if you finish top or second, plus it's a bit harsh on the team finishing 3rd as they lose their double chance. Also, everyone gets a week off at some stage of the finals if it's a final 4, again not rewarding the minor premier.

Keep the top 5 as is.


I'm don't know how everyone gets week off in a final 4. The final series is shorter by a week. The winner of 1v2 gets a week off, the loser of 3v4 (on the same day) is gone and the loser 1v2 and the winner 3v4 play off in the prelim. There is no particular reason for the third team being rewarded with a double chance. We only have nine teams

If you really wanted to reward the minor premier, maybe they should get the premiership as the best team all year. Make all teams play each other three times , 24 games, 12 home and 12 away. No finals

You don't see Man U happy to be in the top 3 in a much bigger comp

Anyway , that's just what I think. I'd vote for a final four

Re: Final Five

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:00 pm
by CENTURION
Zathrus wrote:
Brucetiki wrote:
sapaul wrote:Had a final 4 in 2003. No idea why they reverted back to 5?


Because it was a disaster. All finals were standalone played in front of very poor crowds. Common sense prevailed and the final 5 was reinstated in 2004.


How was it a disaster? If the SANFL chose to make the first and second semis stand alone it was their own silly fault. They should be a double header as they are now. And isn't the prelimary final standalone anyway.

Brucetiki wrote:Also, the top 5 is more rewarding for the minor premier and top 3. With a top 4, makes no difference if you finish top or second, plus it's a bit harsh on the team finishing 3rd as they lose their double chance. Also, everyone gets a week off at some stage of the finals if it's a final 4, again not rewarding the minor premier.

Keep the top 5 as is.


I'm don't know how everyone gets week off in a final 4. The final series is shorter by a week. The winner of 1v2 gets a week off, the loser of 3v4 (on the same day) is gone and the loser 1v2 and the winner 3v4 play off in the prelim. There is no particular reason for the third team being rewarded with a double chance. We only have nine teams

If you really wanted to reward the minor premier, maybe they should get the premiership as the best team all year. Make all teams play each other three times , 24 games, 12 home and 12 away. No finals

You don't see Man U happy to be in the top 3 in a much bigger comp

Anyway , that's just what I think. I'd vote for a final four

totally agree.

Re: Final Five

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:11 pm
by The Sleeping Giant
Zathrus wrote:
I'm don't know how everyone gets week off in a final 4. The final series is shorter by a week. The winner of 1v2 gets a week off, the loser of 3v4 (on the same day) is gone and the loser 1v2 and the winner 3v4 play off in the prelim. There is no particular reason for the third team being rewarded with a double chance. We only have nine teams

If you really wanted to reward the minor premier, maybe they should get the premiership as the best team all year. Make all teams play each other three times , 24 games, 12 home and 12 away. No finals

You don't see Man U happy to be in the top 3 in a much bigger comp

Anyway , that's just what I think. I'd vote for a final four


It's footy not soccer. You poms seem to get them confused.

Re: Final Five

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:18 pm
by CENTURION
The Sleeping Giant wrote:
Zathrus wrote:
I'm don't know how everyone gets week off in a final 4. The final series is shorter by a week. The winner of 1v2 gets a week off, the loser of 3v4 (on the same day) is gone and the loser 1v2 and the winner 3v4 play off in the prelim. There is no particular reason for the third team being rewarded with a double chance. We only have nine teams

If you really wanted to reward the minor premier, maybe they should get the premiership as the best team all year. Make all teams play each other three times , 24 games, 12 home and 12 away. No finals

You don't see Man U happy to be in the top 3 in a much bigger comp

Anyway , that's just what I think. I'd vote for a final four


It's footy not soccer. You poms seem to get them confused.

where you been? It used to be the top 4!

Re: Final Five

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:21 pm
by The Sleeping Giant
Used to be.

Re: Final Five

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:59 pm
by johntheclaret
The Sleeping Giant wrote:
Zathrus wrote:
I'm don't know how everyone gets week off in a final 4. The final series is shorter by a week. The winner of 1v2 gets a week off, the loser of 3v4 (on the same day) is gone and the loser 1v2 and the winner 3v4 play off in the prelim. There is no particular reason for the third team being rewarded with a double chance. We only have nine teams

If you really wanted to reward the minor premier, maybe they should get the premiership as the best team all year. Make all teams play each other three times , 24 games, 12 home and 12 away. No finals

You don't see Man U happy to be in the top 3 in a much bigger comp

Anyway , that's just what I think. I'd vote for a final four


It's footy not soccer. You poms seem to get them confused.


Not all of us ;)

Re: Final Five

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:20 pm
by JK
Final 5 for mine .. If you look at last years comp, it came down to the wire among 3 teams for 5th place.

Yes the Eagles might have pasted the Blues, but going in the Blues were favourites yet the Eagles ended up a poofteenth away from playing in the decider.

The converse is that every now and then you might have a team expected to be canon fodder that does end up copping up a pantsing, but it can still be an important process in the development of their players.