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Rd 23 Finals Connotations

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:00 am
by PhilH
TOP SPOT

Central v Glenelg @ Elizabeth
- winner is minor premier
- if a draw Glenelg is minor premier


DOUBLE CHANCE AND TOP SPOT

Norwood v West @ Coopers

- Norwood cannot finish top 3 with a loss
- West cannot play finals with a loss or draw

- If Norwood d West
- Norwood finish top 3 (play loser of Central v Glenelg in Qualifying)
- West eliminated.
- Eagles v Sturt result irrelevant, they will meet again in Elimination final



- If West d Norwood then it comes down to the game at Woodville

- Eagles d Sturt
- Eagles finish 3rd (player loser of Central v Glenelg in Qualifying)
- West play Norwood in Elimination Final
- Sturt eliminated

- Sturt d Eagles
- Sturt finish top 3 (play loser of Central v Glenelg in Qualifying)
- Norwood play Eagles in Elimination Final
- West Eliminated (due to poor percentage)

- Sturt and Eagles draw
- Eagles finish top 3 (player loser of Central v Glenelg in Qualifying)
- Norwood play Sturt in Elimination
- West eliminated (due to poor percentage)



- If Norwood and West draw
- Sturt in elimination final, West eliminated

- If Sturt d Eagles
- Norwood 3rd (play loser of Central v Glenelg in Qualifying)
- Sturt v Eagles in Elimination Final

- If Eagles d Sturt
- Eagles 3rd (play loser of Central v Glenelg in Qualifying)
- Norwood v Sturt in Elimination Final



- If both games are draws
- Norwood 3rd (play loser of Central v Glenelg in Qualifying)
- Eagles v Sturt in Elimination Final
- West Eliminated

Re: Rd 23 Finals Connotations

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:14 am
by Jimmy
the sturt picture looks more rosey than it did a few weeks ago...westies had the drivers seat for a while and now its tougher for them.

Re: Rd 23 Finals Connotations

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:40 am
by cd
Well done Phil - how long did this take to work out?

Re: Rd 23 Finals Connotations

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:17 pm
by CUTTERMAN
Posted this elsewhere but what would Norwood and WWT need to lose by in order not to qualify for finals

Re: Rd 23 Finals Connotations

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:11 pm
by topsywaldron
My head hurts reading this.

Re: Rd 23 Finals Connotations

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:24 pm
by StrayDog
CUTTERMAN wrote:Posted this elsewhere but what would Norwood and WWT need to lose by in order not to qualify for finals

West would need to beat Norwood by 139 points or more to jump Norwood on percentage - and thus push Norwood out of the five if Sturt won. Given that unlikely 139 point scenario, a loss approaching 11 goals to the Eagles would see their percentage drop below West's, and thus out of the five also.

As it is currently, the Eagles' percentage buffer over West is in the order of 35 goals.

Re: Rd 23 Finals Connotations

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:42 pm
by leggies
CUTTERMAN wrote:Posted this elsewhere but what would Norwood and WWT need to lose by in order not to qualify for finals


West 140+ AND
Sturt 60 +
(Sturt 3rd, West 4th, Norwood 5th)

West 140+ and
Sturt 1-59
(Sturt 3rd, Eagles 4th, West 5th)

West 1 - 139 AND
Sturt 60+
(Sturt 3rd, Norwood 4th, Eagles 5th)

West 1 - 139 AND
Sturt 1-59
(Sturt 3rd, Eagles 4th, Norwood 5th)

Norwood ANY WIN AND
Sturt ANY WIN
(Norwood 3rd, Sturt 4th, Eagles 5th)

Norwood ANY WIN AND
Eagles Win by more than 125 point difference of norwood win eg Norwood win by 5points, Eagles win by 130+ points)
(Eagles 3rd, Norwood 4th (on percentage), Sturt 5th)

Norwood ANY WIN AND
Eagles win by less than 125 point difference of norwood win eg Norwood win by 5points, Eagles win by <129 points)
(Norwood 3rd (on percentage), Eagles 4th, Sturt 5th)

Re: Rd 23 Finals Connotations

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:04 pm
by CUTTERMAN
leggies wrote:
CUTTERMAN wrote:Posted this elsewhere but what would Norwood and WWT need to lose by in order not to qualify for finals


West 140+ AND
Sturt 60 +
(Sturt 3rd, West 4th, Norwood 5th)

West 140+ and
Sturt 1-59
(Sturt 3rd, Eagles 4th, West 5th)

West 1 - 139 AND
Sturt 60+
(Sturt 3rd, Norwood 4th, Eagles 5th)

West 1 - 139 AND
Sturt 1-59
(Sturt 3rd, Eagles 4th, Norwood 5th)

Norwood ANY WIN AND
Sturt ANY WIN
(Norwood 3rd, Sturt 4th, Eagles 5th)

Norwood ANY WIN AND
Eagles Win by more than 125 point difference of norwood win eg Norwood win by 5points, Eagles win by 130+ points)
(Eagles 3rd, Norwood 4th (on percentage), Sturt 5th)

Norwood ANY WIN AND
Eagles win by less than 125 point difference of norwood win eg Norwood win by 5points, Eagles win by <129 points)
(Norwood 3rd (on percentage), Eagles 4th, Sturt 5th)

Excellent, well done and thankyou.
Now back to reality :)

Re: Rd 23 Finals Connotations

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:06 pm
by StrayDog
You're very welcome. :)

Re: Rd 23 Finals Connotations

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:08 pm
by CUTTERMAN
StrayDog wrote:You're very welcome. :)

ok ok well done also :lol:

Re: Rd 23 Finals Connotations

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:09 pm
by leggies
StrayDog wrote:You're very welcome. :)

Was funny, I was working it out, posted it, then noticed you beat me to it! Yours just lacked a little detail! ;) ;)

Re: Rd 23 Finals Connotations

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:10 pm
by bulldogproud2
Actually, because West's For is only about 85% of Norwood's For, they would only have to make up about 240 points and not the 278. Thus a 20 goal win by West would see them climb above Norwood.
If this happened, Sturt would only need to beat the Eagles by about 50 points for West to climb above the Eagles. The Eagles have a much higher Points For.
Still very very unlikely scenarios though.
Cheers

Re: Rd 23 Finals Connotations

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:16 pm
by CUTTERMAN
This weekend is going to be a belter of a round, really looking forward to it. My predictions of crowd numbers are never right but here's a go.
Norwood v West- 4200, deserves 6000
Central v Glenelg- 4700, deserves 8000
Eagles v Sturt- 4100, deserves 6000
Port v North- WHO CARES!
Seriously, about 2500

Re: Rd 23 Finals Connotations

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:18 pm
by topcat10
All above scenarios unlikely-heavy rain forecast for the weekend :(