Round 18 - West v Central Post Match Review

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Round 18 - West v Central Post Match Review

Postby magpie in the 80's » Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:59 pm

Final Score
West 9.5.59
Central 19.9.123

Goal Kickers
West: F.Caruso 3, A.Fielke, J.Davenport ea 2, B.Fisher, R.Willits 1
Central: J.Schiller 3, E.Sansbury, R.Williams J.Boyd, J.Gunston, C.Gowans ea 2, S.Dutschke, D.Havelberg, B.O'Hara, J.Mackenzie, P.Thomas, L.Spurr ea 1

Best
West: N.Caruso, Morris, Harding, F. Caruso, Green, Piasente
Central: Nash, Schiller, Boyd, O'Hara, Gunston, Thomas, Callinan, Williams

QxQ
West 1.2 | 5.4 | 7.4 | 9.5 (59)
Central 7.1 | 10.5 | 13.6 | 19.9 (123)

Reports: Central: Sutherland (striking)

Reserves
West Adelaide 8.6-54
Central District 10.9-69

U/18's
West Adelaide 16.9-105
Central District 5.3-33

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Re: Round 18 - West v Central Post Match Review

Postby whufc » Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:05 pm

wests effort today was the most pathetic i have seen this season.
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Re: Round 18 - West v Central Post Match Review

Postby cennals05 » Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:09 pm

Really happy with Centrals performance today. Certainly wasn't expecting that margin. Nash was best on ground. Thought all others played well.

I expect the report against Sutherland to be thrown out, considering Rowston wanted to report Buckets for it. The boundary umpire I had to tell him it was the wrong man. Not sure how you can report someone when you obviously didn't see the incident.
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Re: Round 18 - West v Central Post Match Review

Postby topcat10 » Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:23 pm

According to the broadcast the report will be worth 2 weeks on the sidelines.2 commentators agreed that it was "stupid" from Sutherland,who apparently has previous form at the tribunal,and is known to posess a short fuse.
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Re: Round 18 - West v Central Post Match Review

Postby blood bath » Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:25 pm

whufc wrote:wests effort today was the most pathetic i have seen this season.


I think thats a bit harsh. Yes, the first 20 mins of the game was all Centrals with West looking shellshocked. However, West did show better signs in the 2nd and 3 Q's, getting the margin to 3 - 4 goals. A few years ago West would have rolled over and lost by 100+ points, yet this wasnt the case today.

The difference was the far more superior skill and decision making of the Central's lineup.They were cleaner, sharper and a lot more efficient.

Why not praise your team's effort instead of making rubbish statements such as that. I doubt its the first time a team has lost to Central's by 10 goals.
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Re: Round 18 - West v Central Post Match Review

Postby Grahaml » Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:26 pm

If anyone saw the incident clearly, they would know firstly that Sutherland lifted his elbow as he passed the West player but also that he actually missed him. It's very easy to see how Rowston thought he needed to be reported. Whether Rowston was unsure who the player was or not is irrelevant as he got the right one in the end. What will be more important is whether the right decision is arrived at.

Anyway, dogs were far too good today. West have way too many passengers, play far too indirect and are far too loose. Dogs' pressure was first class and ball use much better. Good to see Matt Westhoff and Jack Gunston finding some ball up forward. Hard to see how we would fit those two, Havelberg and Schell in the same forward line if they're all available so all those guys need to start putting in some contributions. Gunston's clean pick ups off the deck and skills on the move are magnificent for a 191cm 18 year old kid. Looks a top AFL prospect for the future anyway. Highlight of the day for me was Matt Westhoff somehow managing to get his West opponent to run straight past him while standing still.

Anyway, story of the day was everything went more or less as expected. Dogs picking up the skill level, getting some good miles into a few guys legs who need the run and some of the kids got more time in the game. Dogs too good, West have a few holes and the best team looks about 10 goals better than 5th. Bring on the next game, shame it's 2 weeks away.
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Re: Round 18 - West v Central Post Match Review

Postby bayman » Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:26 pm

the few sturt blokes i know that were at the bay were very happy with the result
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Re: Round 18 - West v Central Post Match Review

Postby bulldog2004 » Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:27 pm

As i wasnt able to attend the game today can someone explain as to what happened for Sutherland to get reported.
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Re: Round 18 - West v Central Post Match Review

Postby bulldog2004 » Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:29 pm

blood bath wrote:
whufc wrote:wests effort today was the most pathetic i have seen this season.


I think thats a bit harsh. Yes, the first 20 mins of the game was all Centrals with West looking shellshocked. However, West did show better signs in the 2nd and 3 Q's, getting the margin to 3 - 4 goals. A few years ago West would have rolled over and lost by 100+ points, yet this wasnt the case today.

The difference was the far more superior skill and decision making of the Central's lineup.They were cleaner, sharper and a lot more efficient.

Why not praise your team's effort instead of making rubbish statements such as that. I doubt its the first time a team has lost to Central's by 10 goals.

whufc is refering to this season not seasons gone past
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Re: Round 18 - West v Central Post Match Review

Postby blackandred » Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:49 pm

This week started off so well for Westies. The coach signed on for another term and the general manager retained are all positive signs for the club. The team published on Thursday night had 4 AFL listed players in the forward line and it looked as though we would be a real chance against Centrals.

All this evaporated in the first 15 minutes of the game when the Dogs slammed on around 5 goals and at Q time the game was well beyond our reach with the score at 7.1 to 1.2.

Porplyzia and Schmidt were claimed by the Crows so in the ‘ball magnet’ department we were down two from the start. Morris took Callinan and Pettigrew started at CHF with Harding on the ball.

The 2nd Q saw a spirited fightback with the Bloods drawing to within 15 pts half way thru the Q but at half time the Dogs had moved to 10.5 to our 5.4. Our FF had had only 2 touches.

The premiership Q saw more of the same with Westies continuing their error riddled display. Silvester kicking out on the full twice in as many minutes, handballs to well marked players, moving the ball back and sideways while under intense pressure from the well drilled and accomplished Dogs. Westies players need to learn that they cannot shrug off tackles made by Centrals players. At one point Callinan, who was well held by Morris, ran onto the ground to take a hanger over a West player who thought he was well clear. On many occasions AFL players like Harding and Davenport were outclassed by their more determined opponents. A nice run in goal to F Caruso was one highlight of this forgettable stanza. 3Q time CD 13.6, WA 7.4.

The last Q lacked interest as Centrals put on a clinic. It was a cold and miserable 25 minutes for Westies supporters waiting for the siren to end their misery. The fact that CDs kicked 6 gls in the last would be a cause for real concern among WA coaching staff. Final score CD 19.9 to WA 9.5.

Big Sutherland was reported. F Caruso kicked 3 and his brother Nat was best for West in a totally forgettable game for the Bloods. Bennett ended on the bench, Chubb went forward but nothing could stop the premiership favourites from thrashing the hapless Bloods.

Centrals won the clearances 31 to 27 and went inside 50, 52 times to 28.

The 2s also lost 10.9 to 8.6.
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Re: Round 18 - West v Central Post Match Review

Postby blood bath » Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:51 pm

bulldog2004 wrote:
blood bath wrote:
whufc wrote:wests effort today was the most pathetic i have seen this season.


I think thats a bit harsh. Yes, the first 20 mins of the game was all Centrals with West looking shellshocked. However, West did show better signs in the 2nd and 3 Q's, getting the margin to 3 - 4 goals. A few years ago West would have rolled over and lost by 100+ points, yet this wasnt the case today.

The difference was the far more superior skill and decision making of the Central's lineup.They were cleaner, sharper and a lot more efficient.

Why not praise your team's effort instead of making rubbish statements such as that. I doubt its the first time a team has lost to Central's by 10 goals.

whufc is refering to this season not seasons gone past


Was today any more "pathetic" than Central's ANZAC Day lost at home to Sturt?

I just think using the term "pathetic" is too easy to throw about. And to be honest, first beating fifth by 10 goals is probably a true indication of the difference between the 2 teams at the moment. Centrals capitalised on the constant West Adelaide turnovers.
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Re: Round 18 - West v Central Post Match Review

Postby cennals05 » Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:52 pm

Grahaml wrote:If anyone saw the incident clearly, they would know firstly that Sutherland lifted his elbow as he passed the West player but also that he actually missed him. It's very easy to see how Rowston thought he needed to be reported. Whether Rowston was unsure who the player was or not is irrelevant as he got the right one in the end. What will be more important is whether the right decision is arrived at.


I'm pretty sure umpires can't collaborate when making a report, so it is relevant that Rowston wanted to book the wrong guy. The boundary umpire went over and told him he had the wrong guy. Therefore he should get off on a technicality.
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Re: Round 18 - West v Central Post Match Review

Postby Mr Irate » Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:02 pm

bulldog2004 wrote:As i wasnt able to attend the game today can someone explain as to what happened for Sutherland to get reported.


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Re: Round 18 - West v Central Post Match Review

Postby whufc » Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:04 pm

blood bath wrote:
bulldog2004 wrote:
blood bath wrote:
whufc wrote:wests effort today was the most pathetic i have seen this season.


I think thats a bit harsh. Yes, the first 20 mins of the game was all Centrals with West looking shellshocked. However, West did show better signs in the 2nd and 3 Q's, getting the margin to 3 - 4 goals. A few years ago West would have rolled over and lost by 100+ points, yet this wasnt the case today.

The difference was the far more superior skill and decision making of the Central's lineup.They were cleaner, sharper and a lot more efficient.

Why not praise your team's effort instead of making rubbish statements such as that. I doubt its the first time a team has lost to Central's by 10 goals.

whufc is refering to this season not seasons gone past


Was today any more "pathetic" than Central's ANZAC Day lost at home to Sturt?

I just think using the term "pathetic" is too easy to throw about. And to be honest, first beating fifth by 10 goals is probably a true indication of the difference between the 2 teams at the moment. Centrals capitalised on the constant West Adelaide turnovers.


We lost to a team who played brilliant football on the day and would have beaten anyone.

Centrals were ok today and just coasted after the first 7 goals, relying on the thousands of errors from westies players to keep the scoreboard pressure on.

How many times did 3 westies players fly for a mark and collide only to leave 3 central players crumbing unnopposed. Was embarrasing to say the least. West had no structure, no game plan, no pressure and no skills. If West make the 5 they will only provide a training drill for the 4th placed team.

For Central my better players were Nash, Sansbury, O'Hara, Dutschke, Gowans and Spurr. Sutherland played his best game so far and his 2nd and 3rd effort Buckets Mackenzielike. Schiller played well and has made it very hard for him to be dropped, just needs to show a little more composure when in possesion, his skills and tacking ability are brilliant.

Happy with the win but apart from the first 20 minutes we were in second gear.
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Re: Round 18 - West v Central Post Match Review

Postby whufc » Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:07 pm

Other good news the Ressies won their 6th straight game and are now equal 5th.

Hardy was really good as a forward and Habel won lots of the football and used it effectively.

Forgot to add Boyds name to Centrals best was almost best on ground what a little player.
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Re: Round 18 - West v Central Post Match Review

Postby Dog-boy » Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:22 pm

Boys played well today especially some of the youngsters,Schiller has a bright future, Reichart continues to do what is asked of him,Gunston had a great second half and will become a good AFL player.
Lairdy is going to have some tough descisions in September when/if he gets all his players injury free,he has players like Schell,Jimmy G,Switala and Cochrane to squeeze back in and if he gets some of his AFL players back Griffin,Symes and henderson.Also now that the ressies are up and playing well we have the likes of Hardy (Played very well in reserves) Habel,Hynes Dunne and Duncan who are ALL playing well and putting pressure on the league squad.

Dont think Sutherland actually connected and the umpire definatly did not see the incident as he was totaly unsure who to report and just reacted to the west player rolling around on the floor,who i might add was up and running to the huddle within 15 seconds when he realised the siren had gone!!

Havelberg did not come back on in last quarter so hopefully it was just for precaution as he has had a bad run with injurys.
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Re: Round 18 - West v Central Post Match Review

Postby Brucetiki » Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:31 pm

Well the signs weren't good for West Adelaide from the outset, with their club song malfunctioning on the PA system! We jumped out of the blocks, slamming home the first 7 goals and it was sensational Centrals at their best. With the game already in the bag, they did take the foot off the pedal, allowing West Adelaide to kick a couple of goals. However, we steadied and kept West Adelaide at arms length, taking a 35 point lead at quarter time, a 31 point lead at half time, and a 37 point lead at 3 quarter time. The last quarter Centrals ensured this would be a West Adelaide belting running away to a 64 point lead.

Good to see Gunston get back into some form today, and I think we've unearthed a star in Jarrod Schiller.

As for the Sutherland report farce, not sure if umps can collaborate to book a player, but even if they can collaborate, it will be easy to shoot down Rowston as a reliable witness by the simple fact he attempted to report the wrong player, and without his testimony there's a strong case the report will be thrown out. Either way I expect a reprimand at worst
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Re: Round 18 - West v Central Post Match Review

Postby Big Phil » Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:35 pm

How good was Ian Callinan's mark :shock: on the grandstand side wing, just after he snuck on the field through the interchange...

Mark of the Year so far I reckon...
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Re: Round 18 - West v Central Post Match Review

Postby Brucetiki » Sat Jul 24, 2010 7:36 pm

Big Phil wrote:How good was Ian Callinan's mark :shock: on the grandstand side wing, just after he snuck on the field through the interchange...

Mark of the Year so far I reckon...


Sensational. I thought the only player within the vicinity of the West player way O'Hara, and I was hoping he'd be able to make the contest. Then Wingnuts comes from nowhere and takes a sensational mark!
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Re: Round 18 - West v Central Post Match Review

Postby Big Phil » Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:24 pm

By all reports, and understandibly so, Andy Collins gave his Westies players one of the biggest post game towellings he has ever dished out in his time at Richomd. Lot's of finger pointing and a new coat of painted needed for the walls !!

Says how much the win meant to Collins and the club today and justified I feel with the dissapointing performance of the Bloods today considering the importance of today's game for them.

EDIT - West Adelaide DO NOT do finger painting in the rooms post game :oops:
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