Port Power / Port Magpies Administrative Merger ?

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Port Power / Port Magpies Administrative Merger ?

Poll ended at Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:43 am

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Port Power / Port Magpies Administrative Merger ?

Postby Mr Irate » Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:43 am

Vote away folks.
"This windfall from the Adelaide Oval decision cannot be turned into a moment when the SANFL sells off the farm to underwrite its lazy league clubs."
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Re: Port Power / Port Magpies Administrative Merger ?

Postby Apachebulldog » Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:06 pm

No , only if the CROWS also field a reserves side, if they merge its then one more step towrds a reserves side in the future quite simple i reckon.
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Re: Port Power / Port Magpies Administrative Merger ?

Postby dedja » Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:15 pm

To base a decision on emotion without the facts it's difficult to make a call ...
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Re: Port Power / Port Magpies Administrative Merger ?

Postby Barto » Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:19 pm

dedja wrote:To base a decision on emotion without the facts it's difficult to make a call ...


I just wish they'd bloody well get on with it and make a decision.
It's all the SANFL's fault.
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Re: Port Power / Port Magpies Administrative Merger ?

Postby dedja » Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:22 pm

Barto wrote:
dedja wrote:To base a decision on emotion without the facts it's difficult to make a call ...


I just wish they'd bloody well get on with it and make a decision.


True, and we don't even know when that will be!
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Re: Port Power / Port Magpies Administrative Merger ?

Postby bayman » Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:23 pm

as stated without knowing what they want to actually do how can anyone vote with an open mind, with this poll we are voting blind....so i voted NO but if we ever hear their reasoning & it was valid i could reconsider
i thought secret groups were a thing of the past, well not on websites anyway
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Re: Port Power / Port Magpies Administrative Merger ?

Postby Mickyj » Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:23 pm

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Re: Port Power / Port Magpies Administrative Merger ?

Postby Mr66 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:53 pm

Where's the 'Who cares' option?
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Re: Port Power / Port Magpies Administrative Merger ?

Postby Hondo » Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:00 pm

bayman wrote:as stated without knowing what they want to actually do how can anyone vote with an open mind, with this poll we are voting blind....so i voted NO but if we ever hear their reasoning & it was valid i could reconsider


Exactly, well said

Someone post the exact proposal in a poll and come back to us
In between signatures .....
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Re: Port Power / Port Magpies Administrative Merger ?

Postby Mr Irate » Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:55 pm

Posting the exact proposal would appear impossible.....it changes daily :roll:
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Re: Port Power / Port Magpies Administrative Merger ?

Postby Hondo » Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:29 pm

it does seem that way!
In between signatures .....
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Re: Port Power / Port Magpies Administrative Merger ?

Postby Barto » Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:44 am

It's like someone trying desperately trying to hook up. Just tell the potential target what they want to hear.
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Re: Port Power / Port Magpies Administrative Merger ?

Postby CUTTERMAN » Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:21 am

Chose not to vote.
Even if it goes ahead PAM's will not be around for very long, 1 year, 3 years, 5 years it doesn't matter their goose is cooked. I would like to see PAM's survive and Power can continue to struggle and go plead their case with the powers that be at the (V)AFL. It's an absolute disgrace that every other state comp has had to pay for a license and then have been denied the cash handouts that WB, NM, Melb and other Vic based clubs have been recieving when in trouble, all clubs that have never had to pay for a licence in the 1st bloody place. That's another story though.
Haysman has basically come out and said it, the only reason why they look at the merger is because they can get the hotel for free. If this is delayed anymore then PAM's will have to sell the hotel to pay for this year and then there will be nothing in it for the Power. Simple as that, how's them apples! Loyalty and respect at its best, after all it's a business.

Outcome for The Power-
Merger goes ahead, they get a hotel and once and for all deal with the Jekyll and Hyde issue that has become Pt Adelaide Football.
Merger fails, they are back where they were but have once and for all dealt with the Jekyll and Hyde issue that has become Pt Adelaide Football without looking like the bad guys.
Outcome for the PAM-
Merger goes ahead, they lose their hotel and are on life support for a couple of years hoping for a miracle.
Merger fails, they sell their hotel and fold at the end of the year.
Outcome for the SANFL Clubs-
Whatever the outcome is, don't let the Power go under.
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Re: Port Power / Port Magpies Administrative Merger ?

Postby Booney » Fri Feb 05, 2010 11:12 am

hondo71 wrote:
bayman wrote:as stated without knowing what they want to actually do how can anyone vote with an open mind, with this poll we are voting blind....so i voted NO but if we ever hear their reasoning & it was valid i could reconsider


Exactly, well said

Someone post the exact proposal in a poll and come back to us


Why not just go out on a limb like Apache and assume its a Reserves Side etc etc... :roll:
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Re: Port Power / Port Magpies Administrative Merger ?

Postby wwtfc_eagle » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:58 am

Fold 'em up!
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Re: Port Power / Port Magpies Administrative Merger ?

Postby dedja » Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:51 pm

Whilst I hardly agree with him these days, Studley's piece in today's fishwrapper was spot on for mine.

And keep it up Booney ... I'd be doing exactly the same as you in the same position. It's a shame emotion overides facts for some.
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Re: Port Power / Port Magpies Administrative Merger ?

Postby redwhiteandblueblooded » Sat Feb 06, 2010 8:58 pm

As much as it burns me, the comp needs the wharfies. Part of me would be happy for them to go, but a bigger part of me longs to see the chimney with the Red, White and Blue atop the black and white.
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Re: Port Power / Port Magpies Administrative Merger ?

Postby zipzap » Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:47 am

CUTTERMAN wrote:Chose not to vote.
Even if it goes ahead PAM's will not be around for very long, 1 year, 3 years, 5 years it doesn't matter their goose is cooked. I would like to see PAM's survive and Power can continue to struggle and go plead their case with the powers that be at the (V)AFL. It's an absolute disgrace that every other state comp has had to pay for a license and then have been denied the cash handouts that WB, NM, Melb and other Vic based clubs have been recieving when in trouble, all clubs that have never had to pay for a licence in the 1st bloody place. That's another story though.
Haysman has basically come out and said it, the only reason why they look at the merger is because they can get the hotel for free. If this is delayed anymore then PAM's will have to sell the hotel to pay for this year and then there will be nothing in it for the Power. Simple as that, how's them apples! Loyalty and respect at its best, after all it's a business.

Outcome for The Power-
Merger goes ahead, they get a hotel and once and for all deal with the Jekyll and Hyde issue that has become Pt Adelaide Football.
Merger fails, they are back where they were but have once and for all dealt with the Jekyll and Hyde issue that has become Pt Adelaide Football without looking like the bad guys.
Outcome for the PAM-
Merger goes ahead, they lose their hotel and are on life support for a couple of years hoping for a miracle.
Merger fails, they sell their hotel and fold at the end of the year.
Outcome for the SANFL Clubs-
Whatever the outcome is, don't let the Power go under.


An excellent post Cutterman. I hesitantly vote yes though only because the SANFL needs the Magpies on purely aesthetic / traditional grounds. Much as I've learned not to trust their revisionist, wily ways, even in their currently crippled form Port still offers something intangible that few other clubs do and as every caped crusader knows, you need your enemies to test your resolve and stir the emotions. What did Roy and HG call it? Harnessing the Hate? With the caveat in place of course that if it doesn't work out the clubs can vote it down after 3 years - which admittedly would be very hard to implement once the wheels are in motion.
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Re: Port Power / Port Magpies Administrative Merger ?

Postby Go Legs » Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:12 am

According to an article in this morning's Sunday Mail, its a done deal, no merger approval, no magpies, no power grubby hands on the Prince of Wales, therefore No Power interest in the PAMFC

8 team Comp in 2011 thank you very much, or the PAMFC actually get off there arse's a get to work like all of the other clubs in the past without hand-outs.

Worse case scenario is it becomes a 21 round Comp each side plays each other 3 times, one home, one away and one at neutral Adelaide Oval or as a support to the AFL game at Footy Park. Gives all sides 7 Games at Footy Park before the finals,
that's fair.

By doing away with the Magpies and having no byes the slack taken up by the club missing the bye actually playing means another home game and a chance to equalize funds lost by PAMFC demise.

No sobbing on my behalf, just a final eye for an eye :twisted:

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Re: Port Power / Port Magpies Administrative Merger ?

Postby beenreal » Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:43 am

Go Legs wrote:According to an article in this morning's Sunday Mail, its a done deal, no merger approval, no magpies, no power grubby hands on the Prince of Wales, therefore No Power interest in the PAMFC

8 team Comp in 2011 thank you very much, or the PAMFC actually get off there arse's a get to work like all of the other clubs in the past without hand-outs.

Worse case scenario is it becomes a 21 round Comp each side plays each other 3 times, one home, one away and one at neutral Adelaide Oval or as a support to the AFL game at Footy Park. Gives all sides 7 Games at Footy Park before the finals,
that's fair.

By doing away with the Magpies and having no byes the slack taken up by the club missing the bye actually playing means another home game and a chance to equalize funds lost by PAMFC demise.

No sobbing on my behalf, just a final eye for an eye :twisted:

Nothing beats a rational, well researched response?! :butthead:

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