Changes to the Salary Cap

[Big Phil]

I haven't heard any detail, but on KG and the General this afternoon (starting now) they have Darren Chandler on as a guest to run through some changes to the SANFL Salary cap

Will be interesting as to what they are, I can't watch the show, so if anyone does, can they post what is said on this thread later on...

[dedja]

I didn't hear it all, but the changes seem to be:

$10K reduction in salary cap
veteran allowance to be scrapped
8% increase in dividend to SANFL clubs

Not sure of the timeframes though.

[Squawk]

Seems odd to reduce the salary cap by $10k, (about 3%), and then increase the dividend by 8%, when the previous criticism has been particularly oriented towards expenditure in Football Operations.

Let's not forget though that the transfer prices between leagues are also skewed against the SANFL brining in players - they pay a premium over and above other leagues, or transfers out.

[HeartBeatsTrue]

Will just mean each club's brown paper bags will have an extra $10K in them.

[Squawk]

Will just mean each club's brown paper bags will have an extra $10K in them.

Brings us up to -$40k now!

[dedja]

One more I forgot at add ... an 8 player import restriction to be phased in.

Teams with over 8 imports when the restriction is brought in won't be penalised.

NFI what the definition of an import is ... eg. does it include AFL listed players in the SANFL mini-draft?

I believe the total dividend per club will be $565K

[Squawk]

Is any of this detail in the public domain as yet dedja? If so, can you point to a link or anything?

[dedja]

Is any of this detail in the public domain as yet dedja? If so, can you point to a link or anything?

LOL, I'm not making it up ...

It was from Darren Chandler interview on the KG & the General show today as mentioned by BP.

It was a briefly mentioned on the 5AA sports show as well.

And here's the link from the SANFL site ... http://www.sanfl.com.au/news/sanfl_news/897/

[geppscrossrams]

Typical sanfl bowing down to pressure from the afl (vfl)

[topsywaldron]

Trust an effing Glenelg person to be at the pointy end of the stick that reams our once proud league.

A disgraceful step and it's the beginning of the end of our competition as we know it.

[am Bays]

Trust an effing Glenelg person to be at the pointy end of the stick that reams our once proud league.

A disgraceful step and it's the beginning of the end of our competition as we know it.

A former Glenelg person just protecting Norwood from themselves....

[UK Fan]

I love the BS reason. to maintain focus on producing juniors. Obviously it was the extra $10K that had every SANFL club unfocused on junior developement.

Well yet again the Hondos win and the SANFL gets screwed over.

here is the propaganda from the SANFL website.

SANFL News 06 Aug 2009
SPOTLIGHT ON LOCAL TALENT IN SANFL SALARY CAP DECISION

The future development of the South Australian talent pool has been a leading motive behind recent SANFL Salary Cap changes, released by the SA Football Commission today.

After extensive consultation with its nine League clubs and the Salary Cap Review Committee, the Commission has endorsed the introduction of an Import Rule, together with changes to the Salary Cap, which will be phased in over the next three years:

1.AN import rule will be introduced for the 2011 season, restricting clubs to eight imports on its 1-50 list at any one time. Under the import rule regulations, no club will have to delist any current players before the 2011 season.

2.MORE than $38,000 worth of player payments and subsidies for each club will be removed from the Salary Cap Regulations, including a $10,000 reduction in League player payments. The Salary Cap limit for 2010 will be $350,000.

3.EXISTING payments, including a $20,000 veterans’ allowance and a $5000 playing assistant coach allowance have been removed. Further limits have been placed on travel and rent subsidies and Reserve player payments.

State League & Partnerships General Manager Darren Chandler said the introduction of the new import rule would encourage clubs to further foster their own metropolitan and regional talent pools.

“Clubs already do an outstanding job in the development of talent within their zones. This change will only reinforce the importance of the development of talent within South Australia and further underpin the nine Centres of Excellence based at each SANFL club,” Mr Chandler said.

“We have a strong and proud history of developing young players in this state and we are confident the changes to be phased in over the next three years will have a positive and long-lasting effect on our competition.

“The success of the SANFL competition is vital for the future of football, not only in this state but also on the national stage. The AFL has recognised the SANFL competition as the leading second-tier competition and that it is a critical component of game development.”

The SA Football Commission took the opportunity to reinforce its commitment to all clubs by announcing that club grants would increase by 8 per cent over the next three years.

Each club will receive $565,000 in 2010, which includes administration grants, specific game development grants and allocations of major sponsorship arrangements.

This equates to more than $5 million of which more than half will be spent on the talent and participation programs (including the Centres of Excellence at each club). The remaining money will be invested into the State League Competition

[bluegirl2002]

3.EXISTING payments, including a $20,000 veterans’ allowance and a $5000 playing assistant coach allowance have been removed. Further limits have been placed on travel and rent subsidies and Reserve player payments.


Just wondering how many SANFL clubs currently have or have recently had playing assistant coaches?? And what sort of limits in reserves payments ??

[dedja]

Well yet again the Hondos win and the SANFL gets screwed over.

What are you on about?

[JK]

Question, has any mention been given to trigger-point of years of service or games played, at which time a recruit becomes "naturalised"? .. For example, the Gowans boys could reasonably be considered as CDFC as any player now, as opposed to recruits.

[dedja]

Question, has any mention been given to trigger-point of years of service or games played, at which time a recruit becomes "naturalised"? .. For example, the Gowans boys could reasonably be considered as CDFC as any player now, as opposed to recruits.

That was sort of part of my query too CP ... ie. what is the definition of an import.

[redandblack]

Yes, CP. I believe that by 2011, when this starts, any player who has been on the list for 3 years will be not classed as an import.

For all the conspiracy theorists, it's not the end of the world, seems a reasonable change all round, given the realities.

I also think an import will be someone from an interstate league. Not sure if that includes a country league, but I suspect it does.

[dedja]

Yes, CP. I believe that by 2011, when this starts, any player who has been on the list for 3 years will be not classed as an import.

For all the conspiracy theorists, it's not the end of the world, seems a reasonable change all round, given the realities.

I also think an import will be someone from an interstate league. Not sure if that includes a country league, but I suspect it does.

I agree R&B ... it seems to be giving (slightly) more discretionary spend back to the clubs with the 8% dividend increase but $10K salary cap reduction and approx $25K reduction of other allowances which some clubs didn't use anyway.

Clear up the situation around imports and not a bad result all round.

[Aerie]

Why are they doing this?

Surely they should give all the reasons why they are reducing the salary cap and player imports. The future development of the South Australian talent pool is a piss poor excuse. The introduction of 2 more AFL teams in the next few years will suck out more quality players from the state leagues, therefore to keep our league as strong as possible we will need to recruit.

South Australia provides far more players for the AFL than there are AFL spaces in Adelaide. So we end up giving more players away than we keep as our own at the moment anyway.

The only reason I would be for the slight reduction in salary cap and limit of imports is if our current clubs were in real danger of survival because of the current structure and the SANFL believed the gap between the strong clubs and the weak clubs would be too great.

I think they may be doing it because they don't want the SANFL to prosper while other state leagues fall behind.

[pantherfromwayback]

Just wondering how many SANFL clubs currently have or have recently had playing assistant coaches??

The Panthers have Jason Torney this year & last year, also Clay Sampson was to be a playing assistant coach last year until injury forced him into retirement