What can South Adelaide do to be more competitive in 2010?

[Navy2005]

Just wanted to know what do people think South can do to get better next season?

Any thoughts would be really good to see South competitive again.

[whatever]

Most of it has to come from within.

The players have to realise that to get better they have to work on improving their mental side of the game just as much as the skills and physical side of the game. The players have to drive the improvement and put their hands up and say **** this lets be successful.

The club off field has to stay focused in their support for Clay Sampson, it does not mean they have to approve of everything that he does but if they dont agree discuss it with him directly then publically back whatever Clay is doing. Stabilty is going to be a major factor.

Personel, not a lot that they need to do. They really need to work on the local players and players in their zone to build greater depth. If they recruit a senior player they must be able to run all day as Noarlunga is a big oval and he will need to run others off of their feet. Like every club a CHF, CHB, and a midfielder would not go astray but this only help patch up problems. The local players will drive the level of success.

[Sojourner]

The club has worked hard to focus on the SFL players, yet the current group alone will not improve enough to the level required to make the side competitive in the SANFL, we need to spend some money and recruit the right players into the club. My mail is that the club have identified several VFL and WAFL players they will be speaking with about making the move over to S.A, this is the model that the West Adelaide Football club have used to improve their side and I do think that we will have some success with it if we can jag the right players to gel with the side we are building at present.

[JK]

Let me preface this by saying Im an outsider, non-South supporter, who has only seen them on TV this year and listened by radio.

But, the feeling I get, is that they are investing in youth and local, and learning the art of honesty (kind of like Westies has/is) .. Sure there will be some blips on the radar with that, and it's looking ugly results wise for you this year, but your competitiveness seems to have grown, and it's amazing how much upside kids have once that confidence kicks in.

I genuinely believe (again from my limited exposure to your group) that onfield as a club, you are going about things the right way.

BTW, totally understand if a Panthers fan jumps on here and shoots that down entirely.

[Sojourner]

BTW, totally understand if a Panthers fan jumps on here and shoots that down entirely.

Say what you like mate, its brought up on the SAFooty forum so that other SANFL sides fans can have their say, otherwise no doubt it would just stay on the SAFC forum.

Although it will never happen, I do wish we could get Phil Carman on staff before you do though! He would be exactly the right person to mentor Clay Sampson to take the team to the next level!

[JK]

BTW, totally understand if a Panthers fan jumps on here and shoots that down entirely.

Say what you like mate, its brought up on the SAFooty forum so that other SANFL sides fans can have their say, otherwise no doubt it would just stay on the SAFC forum.

Although it will never happen, I do wish we could get Phil Carman on staff before you do though! He would be exactly the right person to mentor Clay Sampson to take the team to the next level!

Was just trying to qualify my comments mate, by stating Im not necessarily the best judge ... I'd be surprised if Fab was in line with a gig for us somewhere, but it wouldn't upset me at all if he was.

[dedja]

Sorry CP, not taking the piss, but you just gotta see the irony in a Legs supporter offering tips to someone else about how to improve next year when there's a bit to do in your backyard first.

[Barto]

Merge with Glenelg, call themselves Glenelg and have a Tiger as their mascot.

[JK]

Sorry CP, not taking the piss, but you just gotta see the irony in a Legs supporter offering tips to someone else about how to improve next year when there's a bit to do in your backyard first.

Kinda like those from clubs with a total of flags you can count on Homer Simpsons left hand, being critical of another's assessment?

[dedja]

Yep, pretty much ... play on.

OK, back on track ... Look, I don't know enough about the Panthers off field to comment, but on field, they would do no harm to play attacking, rather than defensive footy.

Westies, whilst they have improved, slip back into that defensive flooding mode when the game gets tough.

The Bays when we were going through that horror run a few years back used to flood like there was no tomorrow, just so that they could say we didn't lose by lots.

My 2 cents anyway.

[HeartBeatsTrue]

They shouldnt have to do much. Maybe selectively recruit a couple of key players and attack a little more when defending a small lead. They probably would have won the match vs Norwood a few weeks back if they played the last qtr like they did the 2nd. An inexperienced list which in 2010 will have another year under their belt. They might surprise a couple of sides by knocking them off before this season is out.

[Dirko]

I look at how the Bays turned it around it by bit, and it started with a new board, a steady coaching panel, and a core of players from the Glenelg SE zone including the Captain in Mules (Panozzo, Hinge, Duldig, Block, Allen, Ruwoldt, Holmes & Willoughby the others) coming up through the system and staying at the Bay.

Also selective recruiting. The past few years I cannot recall the Bays recruiting more then 3/4 blokes (Mills, Grima, Hall this year), and they were like for like replacement for people that left/retired (Sherwood, Rudolph, Bode).

[shoe boy]

A major shake up would be a good start!
I know this has happend over the last few years but still the club doesnt deliver!FACT
There are 4 lads pulling a lot of strings at the club and agree they all were quality footballers but administrators and coaches they are not!!
As for comments regarding bringing players from interstate this has been done in the past and failed!!(who identifys these players)
I read comments regarding the relationship with their zoned clubs?? what relationship.When I have attended various delegates and other meetings for the SFL West Adelaide and Glenelg always have a rep who gives feedback to the clubs on many topics WHERE is South Adelaides Rep?? Surley it is in the clubs best interest to have a role or input in these clubs as they are the nursery ground for the future.

[Sojourner]

As for comments regarding bringing players from interstate this has been done in the past and failed!!(who identifys these players).

The interesting thing here is the clubs fascination with recruiting out of the VFL which has been totally done to death by the SANFL IMO, I think that perhaps the SANFL recruting managers do not rate the WAFL as highly, yet considering the result in the State Game, I do think that some of those guys could play well at SANFL if given the opportunity, one advantage South does have in this area is that we are not short of coin for moving players in from interstate if we should so wish to, so I do hope the club takes this option seriously, we cannot and will not build a side soley on SFL players when the standard of the SFL does not match the A1 competition.

[Pseudo]

Merge with Glenelg, call themselves Glenelg and have a Tiger as their mascot.

... and bring the '86 Escort Cup with them

[whufc]

win games of football

[Wedgie]

I think they're pushing the proverbial uphill.
Noone in the south associates with South Adelaide who were traditionally based close to town or at St Marys.
The SFL gets more people to a big game than South do for a game!
The South would have associated with a brand new entity based on the SFL and GSFL similar to what Central did 50 years ago but as its a transplanted team I cant see the club going anywhere for the next 50 years to be truthful.
Central took almost 40 years with the backing of their community, South dont have that so will take a lot longer.
Their only chance at some immediate climbing up the ladder would be buying up big but that could have detrimental effects down the track similar to the 90s.
But a big name or two might draw some interest from the locals like Delrae did.
Just my thoughts.

[whufc]

I think they're pushing the proverbial uphill.
Noone in the south associates with South Adelaide who were traditionally based close to town or at St Marys.
The SFL gets more people to a big game than South do for a game!
The South would have associated with a brand new entity based on the SFL and GSFL similar to what Central did 50 years ago but as its a transplanted team I cant see the club going anywhere for the next 50 years to be truthful.
Central took almost 40 years with the backing of their community, South dont have that so will take a lot longer.
Their only chance at some immediate climbing up the ladder would be buying up big but that could have detrimental effects down the track similar to the 90s.
But a big name or two might draw some interest from the locals like Delrae did.
Just my thoughts.

totally agree with everything, but has there been any bigger name players available to the SANFL than Damien Cupido. Unless they get Ben Cosuins down there i can't see any individual chaning their situation, they need on field results -simple

[Wedgie]

totally agree with everything, but has there been any bigger name players available to the SANFL than Damien Cupido. Unless they get Ben Cosuins down there i can't see any individual chaning their situation, they need on field results -simple

Yeah, Delrae was much bigger at the time and generated enermous interest down here in the South. Noone gave two hoots about Cupido to tell the truth but you are right in regard to players available these days.
I agree its unlikely to happen hence why I think they'll be waiting 50 years.

[darley16]

Wedgie usually your stuff makes sense....then there's now. Anyone (Shoe-boy) who thinks the SAFC is sitting back and ignoring the significance of the SFL & GSFL are ill-informed and basing their understanding on little actual knowledge. The club is more aware than anyone on this site that its relevance down south must be inclusive of both the local leagues and the broader community, countless hours (and some expense) is spent in developing and improving this arrangement. For those who are genuine in what is being undertaken the club is open to enquiries. If continued hard work and commitment equats to success then the club will have success as this is what is being done without much fanfare or indeed at times much recognition.
Admittingly the club has made errors in this area in the past and it is the recognition of this that has seen the club making up for lost ground and is forever commited to our football and community base.