SA Footy

There was an incident at Unley Oval in the ST V CD game
Nicholas Smith was reported for Misconduct
It is alledged that Smith wiped his own blood onto Chris Gowans Gurnsey ???

If this is true should Smith be reprimanded ?
Was he provoked into this action ?
Was he retaliating ?

If the alledged wiping of blood is correct I feel he must be suspended or at very least be reprimanded on principle

If we allow Smith to escape without a penalty
THEN
We may as well not have the BLOOD RULE in the SANFL

mal wrote:There was an incident at Unley Oval in the ST V CD game
Nicholas Smith was reported for Misconduct
It is alledged that Smith wiped his own blood onto Chris Gowans Gurnsey ???

If this is true should Smith be reprimanded ?
Was he provoked into this action ?
Was he retaliating ?

If the alledged wiping of blood is correct I feel he must be suspended or at very least be reprimanded on principle

If we allow Smith to escape without a penalty
THEN
We may as well not have the BLOOD RULE in the SANFL

What penalty did Buckley cop in the AFL when it happened?

When the blood rule was called, Chris Gowans went up to the guy and said something (as pretty much every footy player does!) and then the kid wiped his brow on Gowans' shoulder sending Chris off as well. It might have been in retaliation for something Chris said, but there wasn't any need for it and he will have no defense, unless he opts for the "accidental" defense which I think will fail.

Personally, I think the SANFL needs to treat this reasonably seriously. I think he actually needs to be suspended, not reprimanded, just so everyone knows this action is completely unacceptable.

Perhaps being a little dazed from copping a whack to the face, and having been sent off, Young Smith assumed that the only people approaching him would be the trainers assisting him to wipe off the blood and he just went with it.

Case dismissed

For a player to do what he did surely there was provocation. If the blood was on the guernsey they who cares if the blood was spat into the face of an opponent throw the book at him if not get a new jumper on and play on.

reprimand for me

SnappyTom wrote:
What penalty did Buckley cop in the AFL when it happened?

Pleaded guilty and got a week by the looks of it...

http://www.abc.net.au/am/stories/s609090.htm

Pretty moronic thing to do IMO. Most likely get a reprimand for it.

Hodges 153! wrote:

SnappyTom wrote:
What penalty did Buckley cop in the AFL when it happened?

Pleaded guilty and got a week by the looks of it...

http://www.abc.net.au/am/stories/s609090.htm

I would have thought that set a precedent.
Ignorant of who supports which team and all that jazz, while some say that "it's not that bad a thing to do" we have rules in all sports to cover blood issues, and he should have known better.

Given his action had intent, I'd certainly like to see any player (any player, from any team) given at least a week for such an offense, to stay in line with the original sinner (Buckley).

What do we do with Westies, however (the 'bloods')???

ST...

ElizabethVCRThief wrote:Perhaps being a little dazed from copping a whack to the face, and having been sent off, Young Smith assumed that the only people approaching him would be the trainers assisting him to wipe off the blood and he just went with it.

Case dismissed

Brilliant you should have been a lawyer

Funnily enough Smithy is one of the top medical students in SA so, if guilty, should have known better - or perhaps he knew it was not a medically dangerous thing to do.

also ...

Laws of Australian Football 2008
22.8 DELIBERATE SMEARING OF BLOOD
Regardless of any other provision in these Laws, if a Player intentionally smears or otherwise causes blood to be placed on another Player’s body or uniform, the Field Umpire must immediately stop play and allow that Player such time as is necessary to have the blood removed or item of uniform removed and replaced.

Did this happen?

My view (even as a Sturt man) is that if Smith wiped blood on Gowans, then he should be punished for it. Regardless of whether there was provocation, I don't think this is something the league should be seen to condone.

The thing is people have to think about what can happen in the future if Smith is let off. I'm not saying players will go about doing it week in, week out, but while NOT doing anything WON'T encourage players to smear blood, doing nothing certainly WON'T discourage them from doing it and that's where I see the problem.

That said, the league needs to hear the "story" from both the umpire and player perspective and judge accordingly. I see no harm in suspending him for one match.

It won't kill him or the club.

MagareyLegend wrote:Funnily enough Smithy is one of the top medical students in SA so, if guilty, should have known better - or perhaps he knew it was not a medically dangerous thing to do.

also ...

Laws of Australian Football 2008
22.8 DELIBERATE SMEARING OF BLOOD
Regardless of any other provision in these Laws, if a Player intentionally smears or otherwise causes blood to be placed on another Player’s body or uniform, the Field Umpire must immediately stop play and allow that Player such time as is necessary to have the blood removed or item of uniform removed and replaced.

Did this happen?

The play had been held up by umpire Corey Bowen anyway to send Smith off with the blood rule due to the split lip...

Smith then smeared his lip / chin on Chris Gowans' gurnsey, resulting in umpire Bowen reaching for the book and thus sending Gowans off as well...

Once to the interchange, Chris came off the ground but due to Centrals having no other fit players to come on as his replacement, he just swapped his 'bloodied' number 21 jumper for the number 60 one and came straight back on the ground.

So in answer to your question, yes, it did happen according to the law above...

Thanks BP

MagareyLegend wrote:Thanks BP

No worries mate

Big Phil wrote:

MagareyLegend wrote:Funnily enough Smithy is one of the top medical students in SA so, if guilty, should have known better - or perhaps he knew it was not a medically dangerous thing to do.

also ...

Laws of Australian Football 2008
22.8 DELIBERATE SMEARING OF BLOOD
Regardless of any other provision in these Laws, if a Player intentionally smears or otherwise causes blood to be placed on another Player’s body or uniform, the Field Umpire must immediately stop play and allow that Player such time as is necessary to have the blood removed or item of uniform removed and replaced.

Did this happen?

The play had been held up by umpire Corey Bowen anyway to send Smith off with the blood rule due to the split lip...

Smith then smeared his lip / chin on Chris Gowans' gurnsey, resulting in umpire Bowen reaching for the book and thus sending Gowans off as well...

Once to the interchange, Chris came off the ground but due to Centrals having no other fit players to come on as his replacement, he just swapped his 'bloodied' number 21 jumper for the number 60 one and came straight back on the ground.

So in answer to your question, yes, it did happen according to the law above...

Just looking on as an impartial observer.
I think perhaps putting 2 and 2 together and looking at the incident objectively- you could come to the conclusion that Smith may have believed that Gowans was responsible for his split lip.
Obviously he was mistaken as Gowans would never become involved in anything like that.

blueandwhite wrote:
Just looking on as an impartial observer.
I think perhaps putting 2 and 2 together and looking at the incident objectively- you could come to the conclusion that Smith may have believed that Gowans was responsible for his split lip.
Obviously he was mistaken as Gowans would never become involved in anything like that.

Ah, the usual intelligent comment from a south supporter. You got us, Gowans most definitely did it and the league should in fact applaud Smith and suspend Gowans. Don't even bother getting evidence, the fact that any Gowans was in the state means he was responsible. Actually, James was also there so let's rub him out as well.

Lucky you made mention of being an "impartial observer", because otherwise we might have thought you'd assume someone was guilty without knowing anything about the incident!

I don't care if he was provoked, wiping blood on someone in some form, is a low act - down there with spitting or kicking IMO. Suspension should occur if what you've said is the case IMO.

blueandwhite wrote: Obviously he was mistaken as Gowans would never become involved in anything like that.

Still harbouring ill feelings towards the Gowans for not signing with South when they first came to SA hey mate

Look, I don't condone what Smithy did but it's well known that the Gowans boys have a pretty long record concering dirty play, so if you blokes are going to get all high and mighty about this incident then you've got selective memories. As mentioned previously on this website the Gowans seem to get away with a fair bit when it comes to their "game style", if the Umpires had cracked down previously then maybe they'd be thinking twice about the way they play footy. As I didn't see the incident I'm only going on what people infront of me saw, so I'm not saying that Smithy was hit in the face, just that some of you are carrying on like teenage girls.