SA Footy

Posted: **Sat May 23, 2009 6:19 pm**

Code: Select all: Match Scores WAFL 3.0 7.4 7.7 12.10 (82) SANFL 4.3 5.4 8.8 12.9 (81) Goals WAFL: Jetta 3, Lecras 3, Richardson 2, Farmer, McGrath, Salecic, Chartres. SANFL: Chambers 5, Evans 3, White 2, Backwell, Zorzi. Leading Players WAFL: LeCras 15 kicks, 9 marks, 5 handballs Hildebrandt 12 kicks, 6 marks, 12 handballs Oliver 14 kicks, 8 marks, 8 handballs Robinson 12 kicks, 8 marks, 9 handballs Parker 8 kicks, 7 marks, 13 handballs Bell 11 kicks, 7 marks, 10 handballs Farmer 13 kicks, 5 marks, 9 handballs SANFL: Backwell 16 kicks, 5 marks, 17 handballs Sheedy 20 kicks, 4 marks, 9 handballs Gum 15 kicks, 7 marks, 8 handballs Panozzo 13 kicks, 4 marks, 13 handballs White 10 kicks, 9 marks, 7 handballs Clayton 11 kicks, 4 marks, 13 handballs Chambers 10 kicks, 6 marks, 3 handballs Match Stats WAFL SANFL Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 T - T Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Long Kicks 7 15 9 15 46 - 49 11 6 18 20 Short Kicks 26 30 31 24 111 - 90 23 28 18 21 General Kicks 50 57 61 53 222 - 213 52 56 48 57 (Backwards Kicks) 3 9 3 3 (18 - 10) 3 3 3 1 Effective Handballs 22 40 44 26 132 - 162 43 35 51 33 Total Handballs 29 50 54 33 166 - 189 49 40 59 41 Effective Disposals 55 85 86 65 291 - 305 77 70 87 71 Ineffective Disposals 24 22 29 22 97 - 97 24 26 20 27 Total Disposals 79 107 115 87 388 - 402 101 96 107 98 Efficiency % 70% 79% 75% 75% 75% - 76% 76% 73% 81% 72% Unconstested Marks 26 32 26 22 106 - 81 21 28 10 22 Contested Marks 3 6 1 3 13 - 16 3 2 6 5 Total Marks 29 38 27 25 119 - 97 24 30 16 27 Play on from Mark % 41% 37% 33% 40% 38% - 52% 42% 53% 38% 67% Contested Possessions 26 33 31 37 127 - 132 32 25 40 35 Uncontested Possessions 53 75 82 51 261 - 262 68 70 66 58 Hard Ball Gets 6 11 12 14 43 - 56 18 13 11 14 Loose Ball Gets 9 11 11 13 44 - 43 7 6 18 12 Handball Receives 22 39 43 25 129 - 160 43 35 50 32 Tackles 13 12 7 11 43 - 27 7 12 4 4 Ground Ball Gets 42 65 79 56 242 - 280 72 61 85 62 Total Hit Outs 7 8 2 4 21 - 43 9 14 12 8 Hit Outs to Adv 0 2 0 1 3 - 6 2 3 1 0 % of H/Os to Adv 0% 25% 0% 25% 14% - 14% 33% 21% 8% 0% Centre Clearances 2 1 0 5 8 - 12 4 2 3 3 Throw In Clearances 1 1 0 1 3 - 8 0 3 4 1 Ball Up Clearances 1 3 3 2 9 - 17 4 8 2 3 Total Clearances 4 5 3 8 20 - 37 8 13 9 7 Inside 50s 11 14 8 12 45 - 50 10 7 16 17 Rebound 50s 6 5 13 12 36 - 32 8 10 7 7 Knock Ons 4 1 3 0 8 - 4 1 0 3 0 Spoils 5 6 4 4 19 - 16 4 3 7 2 Smothers 0 0 0 1 1 - 6 0 4 1 1 Shepherds 1 0 6 1 8 - 8 2 2 3 1 Total One Percenters 29 30 32 31 122 - 117 32 34 29 22 Free Kicks 8 5 7 7 27 - 17 4 4 5 4 50m Penalties 1 0 1 1 3 - 0 0 0 0 0 Kicks OOF 2 0 1 1 4 - 1 0 0 0 1 Dropped Marks 2 2 3 0 7 - 2 1 1 0 0 Clangers 12 10 16 9 47 - 54 14 11 14 15 Stoppages Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 T Centre Bounce 8 6 4 10 28 Throw In 4 4 5 2 15 Ball Up 6 16 6 7 35 Total 18 26 15 19 78

Posted: **Sat May 23, 2009 6:32 pm**

Whatever I said in the live score thread will do for a comment from me for now...too physically and emotionally drained at the moment...I feel like curling up in a ball in the corner and having a good cry...

Posted: **Sat May 23, 2009 6:34 pm**

Have spoke about it on the other thread but will say, the majority of people on SAFooty questioned a few of the selections decisions, which i think we were justified by the performance on the field.

Considering the inside 50 count i thought the defence player fairly well as a whole with Ryan Williams probably been the excpetion, he had an absolute shocker especially his disposal.

The midfield won plenty of ball, as well as clearances, but due to lack of abiltiy to kick the ball long and get forward, they didn't hurt WA even the slightest. I thought the slow movement through the midfield made it alot harder for the forwards to function with structure, as the WA talls were able to dop back.

Up forward, Chambers, White, Evans and Gum were effective especially considering how slow the ball was coming down.

We may have had no crumbers but the lack of midfielders willing to get inside 50 and try and kick a goal didn't help are cause.

Like i have said a few times it's all good and well for the midfielders to pick up 30 possesions but unless they can convert some of them into scoring oppurtunties or progress the ball inside 50 its not going to hurt the opposition.

Posted: **Sat May 23, 2009 6:50 pm**

Congratulations to the WAFL who until next time we meet wear the label of being the second best competition in Oz after the AFL. Gutsy play from a side whose players are paid considerably less than us and train often with lesser facilities. Bluntly they wanted it more and they earned it today.

I hope the recruiting staff of the SANFL clubs were watching today, at the end of the year if they are looking for recruits, I saw a few today that look like they could play quite o.k in the SANFL competiton!

Anyway good luck to them, I am sure we will get our opportunity to square it up at some stage in the next few years!

Posted: **Sat May 23, 2009 7:01 pm**

Exciting game.
But.... I cant help but thinking if we had the Gowans twins + O Sullivan + Cranston we would have won easily.
Having said that, I'm also glad Cranny didnt play.

I thought Sheedy, Backwell & White were our best on the day, and home town umpiring decisions late in the game cost us dearly.
Very dissapointing from an SA patriot's point of view

Posted: **Sat May 23, 2009 7:08 pm**

The Apostle AK wrote:Whatever I said in the live score thread will do for a comment from me for now...too physically and emotionally drained at the moment...I feel like curling up in a ball in the corner and having a good cry...

..and after you've done that, obtaining a life would be the next step.

Posted: **Sat May 23, 2009 8:30 pm**

Yooouuu little beeeaauuuty $\:D/$

The WA boys played for the jumper all the way and deserved the win.

There was a fair degree of arrogance shown by some posters on this site suggesting SA were going to smash us but they'll be tucking into their humble pie now. :lol:

Posted: **Sat May 23, 2009 8:41 pm**

One bloody point. Devastated.

Posted: **Sat May 23, 2009 9:00 pm**

BOG and most couragous has to go to those two female WA trainers in the shorts.
Love your work girls. As an SA Trainer Barto, surely there had to be some high beam showing there???

Posted: **Sat May 23, 2009 9:20 pm**

i blame alleway
Has he even kicked a goal or taken more then a few marks in any games in the last month

Posted: **Sat May 23, 2009 9:24 pm**

am Bays wrote:BOG and most couragous has to go to those two female WA trainers in the shorts.
Love your work girls. As an SA Trainer Barto, surely there had to be some high beam showing there???

I was too busy running to notice! Definitely a higher pace at that level than what there is normally in the WAFL (yes, I have had a look there!)

BTW: the news gets worse for South. Parry will miss a fair few games after damaging his AC. Was in a lot of pain after the game as the injection was wearing off. Iced it up for him, but I wouldn't like to have a bumpy ride home if I were him.

Posted: **Sat May 23, 2009 9:47 pm**

You can't pick players with 10 games experience in a state game.
It showed up big time on a bigger stage.
Martin (one of my team's guys), Schmitt and a few other first timers, just weren't up to it.

Why you pick a coach who can't get gig elsewhere (ok he may not want one) and an assistant who is struggling just to get a side to be competitive, is beyond me.

We had many guys who looked like they were running on the spot and didn't even look like they wanted to challenge the man with the ball. Our overall skill level and decision making did nothing to verify that these are the best blokes going around in our comp.

In heavy conditions I really don't think you can have a White / Alleway up forward and especially when there is nobody parked at their boot laces. This art of crumbing is a forgotten doctrine these days.

Let's face it, nobody seems to be totally serious about state footy, so maybe don't bother until you are. How may people showed up to the game - it looked like the Colosseum on Christmas Day!

The state games that have been promoted as big events in my lifetime, and I can't really recall one since 1989, have been absolute crackers.

Yes this is only state league and not AFL, but if you settle for second best, then it will be.

I made a comment today that I reckon the SANFL and WAFL could be promoted more effectively by their respective adminstrations, but would that tread on their AFL marketing allegiances? Not sure totally about that, but worth considering.

For me, I hate what the AFL has become and really couldn't give a toss about it. State league footy is where it has always been real and honours past traditions that are very worthwhile preserving.

Just look at the umpteen-thousand posts on this site. There some very passionate (and maybe at times imbalanced) people who hold this philosophy dear.

To everyone (which must be about 95+ % of you) who applauded Peter Carey's indoctrination into the Hall of Fame - then that is vindication of what I am saying.

........It is fair that the Jumbo Prince is next!

Posted: **Sat May 23, 2009 10:26 pm**

westozfalcon wrote:There was a fair degree of arrogance shown by some posters on this site suggesting SA were going to smash us but they'll be tucking into their humble pie now.

Example(s)? If they were saying that then they were in a very small minority...you could fit their names on a small post-it note.

Posted: **Sat May 23, 2009 10:30 pm**

didnt see the game but biggest stat to come out of the run down was the free kick count WA 27 SA 17 and 50s WA 3 SA 0.

Posted: **Sat May 23, 2009 10:52 pm**

Chambo100 wrote:Let's face it, nobody seems to be totally serious about state footy, so maybe don't bother until you are. How may people showed up to the game - it looked like the Colosseum on Christmas Day!

The state games that have been promoted as big events in my lifetime, and I can't really recall one since 1989, have been absolute crackers.

Yes this is only state league and not AFL, but if you settle for second best, then it will be.

I made a comment today that I reckon the SANFL and WAFL could be promoted more effectively by their respective adminstrations, but would that tread on their AFL marketing allegiances? Not sure totally about that, but worth considering.

For me, I hate what the AFL has become and really couldn't give a toss about it. State league footy is where it has always been real and honours past traditions that are very worthwhile preserving.

Just look at the umpteen-thousand posts on this site. There some very passionate (and maybe at times imbalanced) people who hold this philosophy dear.

To everyone (which must be about 95+ % of you) who applauded Peter Carey's indoctrination into the Hall of Fame - then that is vindication of what I am saying.

........It is fair that the Jumbo Prince is next!

The players appeared to take it seriously, believe me they were going in hard and the talk before the game was all about state pride and pride in the clubs they represent.

I'm gutted by the lack of turn out today, a big let down after the big one 6 years ago at Freo Oval. There were at least 7000 people there IIRC, yet today you could fire a machine gun and be unlucky to hit someone. In fairness the weather has been absolutely shocking and people just aren't that dedicated on a Saturday afternoon when there's other options.

As for promotion, there is never enough for the local comps. When people asked me what I was up to this weekend and I told them, not one person had a clue this event was on.

Posted: **Sat May 23, 2009 10:53 pm**

westozfalcon wrote:Yooouuu little beeeaauuuty $\:D/$

The WA boys played for the jumper all the way and deserved the win.

There was a fair degree of arrogance shown by some posters on this site suggesting SA were going to smash us but they'll be tucking into their humble pie now.

Honestly, having been involved in both leagues, I thought SA would have smashed the local boys.

Posted: **Sat May 23, 2009 10:58 pm**

Ferguson isn't a ruckman. Should of kept him on LeCras

Posted: **Sat May 23, 2009 11:50 pm**

Thiele wrote:Ferguson isn't a ruckman. Should of kept him on LeCras

They had no choice when Parry did his AC and I think Ferguson did an admiral job in ruck considering he wouldn't normally play there. I also thought the time he spent on LeCras was the only time LeCras was beaten as LeCras even beat Damon White early on before White got moved up forward to play a pivotal role.
r&b might be winning me over.

Posted: **Sun May 24, 2009 12:22 am**

I know hindsight is a wonderful thing but this is different as most of us if not all of us called it before the game but how different would the result have been if we'd had Cranston, Mieklejohn, the Gowans and O'Sullivan instead of Dabrowski, Parry, Wright, Schmidt, Meyer and Martin?
Admittedly the state side was a bit unlucky losing Parry who was playing well IMHO and Allan and even though Alleway had a shocker he was a must have.
I think we need a complete overhaul from here on in, despite Harty having a great state record and I'm not sure if the interest is there but wouldn't it be great to see Laird coach the side?

Posted: **Sun May 24, 2009 1:21 am**

Chambo100 wrote:You can't pick players with 10 games experience in a state game.
It showed up big time on a bigger stage.
Martin (one of my team's guys), Schmitt and a few other first timers, just weren't up to it.!

What the heck was wrong with his game?

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