State Game review

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Match Scores
WAFL           3.0   7.4   7.7  12.10   (82)
SANFL          4.3   5.4   8.8  12.9    (81)

Goals
WAFL: Jetta 3, Lecras 3, Richardson 2, Farmer, McGrath, Salecic, Chartres.
SANFL: Chambers 5, Evans 3, White 2, Backwell, Zorzi.

Leading Players

WAFL:
LeCras 15 kicks, 9 marks, 5 handballs
Hildebrandt 12 kicks, 6 marks, 12 handballs
Oliver 14 kicks, 8 marks, 8 handballs
Robinson 12 kicks, 8 marks, 9 handballs
Parker 8 kicks, 7 marks, 13 handballs
Bell 11 kicks, 7 marks, 10 handballs
Farmer 13 kicks, 5 marks, 9 handballs

SANFL:
Backwell 16 kicks, 5 marks, 17 handballs
Sheedy 20 kicks, 4 marks, 9 handballs
Gum 15 kicks, 7 marks, 8 handballs
Panozzo 13 kicks, 4 marks, 13 handballs
White 10 kicks, 9 marks, 7 handballs
Clayton 11 kicks, 4 marks, 13 handballs
Chambers 10 kicks, 6 marks, 3 handballs


Match Stats                     WAFL                      SANFL
                           Q1  Q2  Q3  Q4    T - T    Q1  Q2  Q3  Q4
Long Kicks                  7  15   9  15   46 - 49   11   6  18  20
Short Kicks                26  30  31  24  111 - 90   23  28  18  21
General Kicks              50  57  61  53  222 - 213  52  56  48  57
(Backwards Kicks)           3   9   3   3  (18 - 10)   3   3   3   1 

Effective Handballs        22  40  44  26  132 - 162  43  35  51  33
Total Handballs            29  50  54  33  166 - 189  49  40  59  41

Effective Disposals        55  85  86  65  291 - 305  77  70  87  71
Ineffective Disposals      24  22  29  22   97 - 97   24  26  20  27
Total Disposals            79 107 115  87  388 - 402 101  96 107  98
Efficiency %               70% 79% 75% 75% 75% - 76%  76% 73% 81% 72%

Unconstested Marks         26  32  26  22  106 - 81   21  28  10  22
Contested Marks             3   6   1   3   13 - 16    3   2   6   5
Total Marks                29  38  27  25  119 - 97   24  30  16  27
Play on from Mark %        41% 37% 33% 40% 38% - 52%  42% 53% 38% 67%

Contested Possessions      26  33  31  37  127 - 132  32  25  40  35
Uncontested Possessions    53  75  82  51  261 - 262  68  70  66  58

Hard Ball Gets              6  11  12  14   43 - 56   18  13  11  14
Loose Ball Gets             9  11  11  13   44 - 43    7   6  18  12
Handball Receives          22  39  43  25  129 - 160  43  35  50  32

Tackles                    13  12   7  11   43 - 27    7  12   4   4
Ground Ball Gets           42  65  79  56  242 - 280  72  61  85  62

Total Hit Outs              7   8   2   4   21 - 43    9  14  12   8
Hit Outs to Adv             0   2   0   1    3 - 6     2   3   1   0
% of H/Os to Adv            0% 25%  0% 25% 14% - 14%  33% 21%  8%  0%

Centre Clearances           2   1   0   5    8 - 12    4   2   3   3
Throw In Clearances         1   1   0   1    3 - 8     0   3   4   1
Ball Up Clearances          1   3   3   2    9 - 17    4   8   2   3
Total Clearances            4   5   3   8   20 - 37    8  13   9   7

Inside 50s                 11  14   8  12   45 - 50   10   7  16  17
Rebound 50s                 6   5  13  12   36 - 32    8  10   7   7

Knock Ons                   4   1   3   0    8 - 4     1   0   3   0
Spoils                      5   6   4   4   19 - 16    4   3   7   2
Smothers                    0   0   0   1    1 - 6     0   4   1   1
Shepherds                   1   0   6   1    8 - 8     2   2   3   1
Total One Percenters       29  30  32  31  122 - 117  32  34  29  22
 
Free Kicks                  8   5   7   7   27 - 17    4   4   5   4
50m Penalties               1   0   1   1    3 - 0     0   0   0   0
Kicks OOF                   2   0   1   1    4 - 1     0   0   0   1
Dropped Marks               2   2   3   0    7 - 2     1   1   0   0
Clangers                   12  10  16   9   47 - 54   14  11  14  15

Stoppages        Q1  Q2  Q3  Q4    T
Centre Bounce     8   6   4  10   28
Throw In          4   4   5   2   15
Ball Up           6  16   6   7   35
Total            18  26  15  19   78

[The Apostle]

Whatever I said in the live score thread will do for a comment from me for now...too physically and emotionally drained at the moment...I feel like curling up in a ball in the corner and having a good cry...

[whufc]

Have spoke about it on the other thread but will say, the majority of people on SAFooty questioned a few of the selections decisions, which i think we were justified by the performance on the field.

Considering the inside 50 count i thought the defence player fairly well as a whole with Ryan Williams probably been the excpetion, he had an absolute shocker especially his disposal.

The midfield won plenty of ball, as well as clearances, but due to lack of abiltiy to kick the ball long and get forward, they didn't hurt WA even the slightest. I thought the slow movement through the midfield made it alot harder for the forwards to function with structure, as the WA talls were able to dop back.

Up forward, Chambers, White, Evans and Gum were effective especially considering how slow the ball was coming down.

We may have had no crumbers but the lack of midfielders willing to get inside 50 and try and kick a goal didn't help are cause.

Like i have said a few times it's all good and well for the midfielders to pick up 30 possesions but unless they can convert some of them into scoring oppurtunties or progress the ball inside 50 its not going to hurt the opposition.

[Sojourner]

Congratulations to the WAFL who until next time we meet wear the label of being the second best competition in Oz after the AFL. Gutsy play from a side whose players are paid considerably less than us and train often with lesser facilities. Bluntly they wanted it more and they earned it today.

I hope the recruiting staff of the SANFL clubs were watching today, at the end of the year if they are looking for recruits, I saw a few today that look like they could play quite o.k in the SANFL competiton!

Anyway good luck to them, I am sure we will get our opportunity to square it up at some stage in the next few years!

[leftlegger]

Exciting game.
But.... I cant help but thinking if we had the Gowans twins + O Sullivan + Cranston we would have won easily.
Having said that, I'm also glad Cranny didnt play.

I thought Sheedy, Backwell & White were our best on the day, and home town umpiring decisions late in the game cost us dearly.
Very dissapointing from an SA patriot's point of view

[Mr66]

Whatever I said in the live score thread will do for a comment from me for now...too physically and emotionally drained at the moment...I feel like curling up in a ball in the corner and having a good cry...

..and after you've done that, obtaining a life would be the next step.

[westozfalcon]

Yooouuu little beeeaauuuty

The WA boys played for the jumper all the way and deserved the win.

There was a fair degree of arrogance shown by some posters on this site suggesting SA were going to smash us but they'll be tucking into their humble pie now.

[Barto]

One bloody point. Devastated.

[am Bays]

BOG and most couragous has to go to those two female WA trainers in the shorts.
Love your work girls. As an SA Trainer Barto, surely there had to be some high beam showing there???

[EAGLES]

i blame alleway
Has he even kicked a goal or taken more then a few marks in any games in the last month

[Barto]

BOG and most couragous has to go to those two female WA trainers in the shorts.
Love your work girls. As an SA Trainer Barto, surely there had to be some high beam showing there???

I was too busy running to notice! Definitely a higher pace at that level than what there is normally in the WAFL (yes, I have had a look there!)

BTW: the news gets worse for South. Parry will miss a fair few games after damaging his AC. Was in a lot of pain after the game as the injection was wearing off. Iced it up for him, but I wouldn't like to have a bumpy ride home if I were him.

[Chambo100]

You can't pick players with 10 games experience in a state game.
It showed up big time on a bigger stage.
Martin (one of my team's guys), Schmitt and a few other first timers, just weren't up to it.

Why you pick a coach who can't get gig elsewhere (ok he may not want one) and an assistant who is struggling just to get a side to be competitive, is beyond me.

We had many guys who looked like they were running on the spot and didn't even look like they wanted to challenge the man with the ball. Our overall skill level and decision making did nothing to verify that these are the best blokes going around in our comp.

In heavy conditions I really don't think you can have a White / Alleway up forward and especially when there is nobody parked at their boot laces. This art of crumbing is a forgotten doctrine these days.

Let's face it, nobody seems to be totally serious about state footy, so maybe don't bother until you are. How may people showed up to the game - it looked like the Colosseum on Christmas Day!

The state games that have been promoted as big events in my lifetime, and I can't really recall one since 1989, have been absolute crackers.

Yes this is only state league and not AFL, but if you settle for second best, then it will be.

I made a comment today that I reckon the SANFL and WAFL could be promoted more effectively by their respective adminstrations, but would that tread on their AFL marketing allegiances? Not sure totally about that, but worth considering.

For me, I hate what the AFL has become and really couldn't give a toss about it. State league footy is where it has always been real and honours past traditions that are very worthwhile preserving.

Just look at the umpteen-thousand posts on this site. There some very passionate (and maybe at times imbalanced) people who hold this philosophy dear.

To everyone (which must be about 95+ % of you) who applauded Peter Carey's indoctrination into the Hall of Fame - then that is vindication of what I am saying.

........It is fair that the Jumbo Prince is next!

[The Apostle]

There was a fair degree of arrogance shown by some posters on this site suggesting SA were going to smash us but they'll be tucking into their humble pie now.

Example(s)? If they were saying that then they were in a very small minority...you could fit their names on a small post-it note.

[bulldogs]

didnt see the game but biggest stat to come out of the run down was the free kick count WA 27 SA 17 and 50s WA 3 SA 0.

[Barto]

Let's face it, nobody seems to be totally serious about state footy, so maybe don't bother until you are. How may people showed up to the game - it looked like the Colosseum on Christmas Day!

The state games that have been promoted as big events in my lifetime, and I can't really recall one since 1989, have been absolute crackers.

Yes this is only state league and not AFL, but if you settle for second best, then it will be.

I made a comment today that I reckon the SANFL and WAFL could be promoted more effectively by their respective adminstrations, but would that tread on their AFL marketing allegiances? Not sure totally about that, but worth considering.

For me, I hate what the AFL has become and really couldn't give a toss about it. State league footy is where it has always been real and honours past traditions that are very worthwhile preserving.

Just look at the umpteen-thousand posts on this site. There some very passionate (and maybe at times imbalanced) people who hold this philosophy dear.

To everyone (which must be about 95+ % of you) who applauded Peter Carey's indoctrination into the Hall of Fame - then that is vindication of what I am saying.

........It is fair that the Jumbo Prince is next!

The players appeared to take it seriously, believe me they were going in hard and the talk before the game was all about state pride and pride in the clubs they represent.

I'm gutted by the lack of turn out today, a big let down after the big one 6 years ago at Freo Oval. There were at least 7000 people there IIRC, yet today you could fire a machine gun and be unlucky to hit someone. In fairness the weather has been absolutely shocking and people just aren't that dedicated on a Saturday afternoon when there's other options.

As for promotion, there is never enough for the local comps. When people asked me what I was up to this weekend and I told them, not one person had a clue this event was on.

[Barto]

Yooouuu little beeeaauuuty

The WA boys played for the jumper all the way and deserved the win.

There was a fair degree of arrogance shown by some posters on this site suggesting SA were going to smash us but they'll be tucking into their humble pie now.

Honestly, having been involved in both leagues, I thought SA would have smashed the local boys.

[Thiele]

Ferguson isn't a ruckman. Should of kept him on LeCras

[Wedgie]

Ferguson isn't a ruckman. Should of kept him on LeCras

They had no choice when Parry did his AC and I think Ferguson did an admiral job in ruck considering he wouldn't normally play there. I also thought the time he spent on LeCras was the only time LeCras was beaten as LeCras even beat Damon White early on before White got moved up forward to play a pivotal role.
r&b might be winning me over.

[Wedgie]

I know hindsight is a wonderful thing but this is different as most of us if not all of us called it before the game but how different would the result have been if we'd had Cranston, Mieklejohn, the Gowans and O'Sullivan instead of Dabrowski, Parry, Wright, Schmidt, Meyer and Martin?
Admittedly the state side was a bit unlucky losing Parry who was playing well IMHO and Allan and even though Alleway had a shocker he was a must have.
I think we need a complete overhaul from here on in, despite Harty having a great state record and I'm not sure if the interest is there but wouldn't it be great to see Laird coach the side?

[NFC]

You can't pick players with 10 games experience in a state game.
It showed up big time on a bigger stage.
Martin (one of my team's guys), Schmitt and a few other first timers, just weren't up to it.!

What the heck was wrong with his game?