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Issues at Sturt 2009

Postby Sojourner » Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:33 pm

On the Thread about the West Adelaide CEO resigning, claims were made that Sturt is running at a loss rumored to be 300k+, the club connected to Sturt, Barzaar is reputed to have made a $28 000 profit yet was forecast to turn over 150K for the club. The Castle Tavern is reputed to be turning over a reasonable amount of profit and is one strong positive for the club.

Poker machines in inner city areas dont do well, we have covered that many times over, yet clearly Edwardstown is a better hunting ground for the club. I am not sure what plans are in place to change things for the better at Barzaar, yet moving it to a lower socio-economic area could prove to be one option. Yet its important to realise that Sturt are in a position where they are facing some heavy financial problems going forward. Perhaps the main issue being that Sturt have few assets like some of the other SANFL clubs that own their venues outright. For Sturt to move forward it would be great to see them purchase the Castle Tavern as opposed to having to "re-negotiate" every time the lease comes up, especially when the lease owners can easilly find out what the club is making profit wise from its report to the club members. :(

Another issue where Sturt need some support is the current situation with Unley Oval. The local Council seems to be hell bent on making things as hard as they possibly can for the club. Sturt have to contine with this ludicrous costly idea of temporary fencing on match day and are unable to put investment into the ground to improve the training and spectator facilities. One of the reasons that recruits want to go to Central is their first class training facilities and pool and one would think that what Central have will soon be the minimum standard for any SANFL club. Without being able to invest in the training facilities or make the repairs to the grandstand, this is clearly going to place the club at a disadvantage to the other SANFL clubs.

Perhaps one issue is whether Sturt should continue at Unley Oval or make the move either to Adelaide Oval or to further within their Zone instead. As an SANFL traditionalist I would like to see the club stay at Unley Oval, yet if Sturt really are running at a massive loss and have issues that cant be resolved with the council that negatively affect the clubs performance then it is isnt unreasonable I suppose to have a look at what other options might be out there for the club, especially if they include advantaging the club to win games.

Their once neighbouring club South Adelaide made the move further South and into their zone, the revenue from being in that zone has made the club one of the best financial clubs in the SANFL despite having either the worst or second worst win loss ratio. Mt Barker is the fastest growing suburb in S.A and it is all Sturt zone territory. Considering the current financial position of the club its a suggestion that probably will continue to resurface until it is dealt with one way or the other by the club.

The bright light though is that Sturt have come back strongly from a position like this before and won some premierships as a result, so there is no reason that they wont do the same thing again. Last time a number of former Sturt people got back on board with the club and saw the club come out of it, lets hope there is more left in the tank for the same thing to happen again!
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Re: Issues at Sturt 2009

Postby Wedgie » Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:23 pm

Sturt should have moved to Wayville years ago, hopefully they still do one day.
A bit of work on the oval and you have potentially great facilities in a great location with great car parking.
Unley and Elizabeth are the 2 ground where I genuinely dont enjoy myself and would rather not go. The rest are fine.
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Re: Issues at Sturt 2009

Postby Dirko » Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:37 pm

Wedgie wrote:Elizabeth is where I genuinely dont enjoy myself and would rather not go. The rest are fine.


Off topic sorry.

But apart from distance for some people (nothing different to Noarlunga) what's wrong with Elizabeth ?
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Re: Issues at Sturt 2009

Postby Wedgie » Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:40 pm

SJABC wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Elizabeth is where I genuinely dont enjoy myself and would rather not go. The rest are fine.


Off topic sorry.

But apart from distance for some people (nothing different to Noarlunga) what's wrong with Elizabeth ?

Big difference to Noarlunga, the Southern Expressway takes you to Noarlunga's doorstep.
As you said, its off topic, use the search facility and you'll find out all you need to know.

Wayville would be great for Sturt IMHO and something they would have considered I'd say.
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Re: Issues at Sturt 2009

Postby Dutchy » Sun Dec 28, 2008 12:22 pm

Sturt are currently putting in long term plans to be based at Mt Barker
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Re: Issues at Sturt 2009

Postby SDK » Sun Dec 28, 2008 1:00 pm

Maybe Sturt should consider getting some "Friendly's" on Council....like the Bays did or threatened to do.
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Re: Issues at Sturt 2009

Postby Jimmy_041 » Sun Dec 28, 2008 1:15 pm

Poker machines in inner city areas dont do well, we have covered that many times over, yet clearly Edwardstown is a better hunting ground for the club. I am not sure what plans are in place to change things for the better at Barzaar, yet moving it to a lower socio-economic area could prove to be one option. Yet its important to realise that Sturt are in a position where they are facing some heavy financial problems going forward. Perhaps the main issue being that Sturt have few assets like some of the other SANFL clubs that own their venues outright. For Sturt to move forward it would be great to see them purchase the Castle Tavern as opposed to having to "re-negotiate" every time the lease comes up, especially when the lease owners can easilly find out what the club is making profit wise from its report to the club members.

Really a sad indictment on our society
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Re: Issues at Sturt 2009

Postby Psyber » Sun Dec 28, 2008 1:19 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote: Really a sad indictment on our society
Yes, those who, in theory, can least afford it are the most common group to gamble, and the group targetted by this form of covert taxation by the states' Labor governments..
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Re: Issues at Sturt 2009

Postby Jimmy_041 » Sun Dec 28, 2008 1:31 pm

Psyber wrote:
Jimmy_041 wrote: Really a sad indictment on our society
Yes, those who, in theory, can least afford it are the most common group to gamble, and the group targetted by this form of covert taxation by the states' Labor governments..
Is it that the tradies are the new rich?


Wont be rich using those freaking things
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Re: Issues at Sturt 2009

Postby Sojourner » Sun Dec 28, 2008 2:23 pm

Dutchy wrote:Sturt are currently putting in long term plans to be based at Mt Barker


Will be interesting to see what the response to this is like from the membership of the club, I do wonder what the split will be between those that do make the move and those that dont.

I also hope that by this move Sturt dont lose their traditional area of Unley as a part of their zone. Yet if the move is made to Mt Barker this will be on the cards one might think!
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Re: Issues at Sturt 2009

Postby Barto » Sun Dec 28, 2008 2:39 pm

Dutchy wrote:Sturt are currently putting in long term plans to be based at Mt Barker



Source?

I wouldn't be opposed to this if it was a superior option to Unley.
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Re: Issues at Sturt 2009

Postby Jimmy » Sun Dec 28, 2008 2:48 pm

Barto wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Sturt are currently putting in long term plans to be based at Mt Barker



Source?

I wouldn't be opposed to this if it was a superior option to Unley.


same here although id prefer to get ppl on the council who can help us out ;)
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Re: Issues at Sturt 2009

Postby Barto » Sun Dec 28, 2008 2:54 pm

Jimmy wrote:
Barto wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Sturt are currently putting in long term plans to be based at Mt Barker



Source?

I wouldn't be opposed to this if it was a superior option to Unley.


same here although id prefer to get ppl on the council who can help us out ;)


It'd be nice, but we cant let the locals know the secret agenda ;)
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Re: Issues at Sturt 2009

Postby spell_check » Sun Dec 28, 2008 2:59 pm

So much is said about people perceived to be scum purely on where they live or what they look like without any more thought. I ask, is the way the council handles this issue (and the residents nearby who I understand are a part of keeping Unley Oval the way it is now) the "well to do" equivalent of the above notion?
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Re: Issues at Sturt 2009

Postby Dutchy » Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:29 pm

Barto wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Sturt are currently putting in long term plans to be based at Mt Barker



Source?

I wouldn't be opposed to this if it was a superior option to Unley.


Ask anyone involved in the Mt Barker FC
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Re: Issues at Sturt 2009

Postby Voice » Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:26 am

Dutchy wrote:
Barto wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Sturt are currently putting in long term plans to be based at Mt Barker



Source?

I wouldn't be opposed to this if it was a superior option to Unley.


Ask anyone involved in the Mt Barker FC

Interesting because i've heard this option for quite a while, just no mention ever from the club.
I wouldn't be opposed to such a move and i reckon any supporter that drops off would be easily replaced by people from the area that would regularly go to watch.
Young and growing demographic, the more I think about it the better it sounds.
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Re: Issues at Sturt 2009

Postby spell_check » Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:47 pm

On a weekend, you can reach Mount Barker from the city in about 25 minutes. Not a long time at all.
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Re: Issues at Sturt 2009

Postby Jimmy_041 » Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:32 pm

spell_check wrote:On a weekend, you can reach Mount Barker from the city in about 25 minutes. Not a long time at all.


It cost $100 for Dial a Driver for the trip back though
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Re: Issues at Sturt 2009

Postby spell_check » Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:55 pm

Less than that if you find someone to go to the footy with who doesn't see it as an excuse to get blind drunk.
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Re: Issues at Sturt 2009

Postby SDK » Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:17 pm

You dont have to be blind drunk to be over the limit just enough to have had a good time !
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