A More Detailled SANFL Boundaries Map?

[Sojourner]

I have this map here which gives me a rough idea of what the SANFL Boundaries are

http://www.gisca.adelaide.edu.au/projec ... sults.html

What I am more looking for is something that gives the specfic streets that are the boundary, so just checking if anyone in here knows if there is such a thing?

[dash61]

From that, Norwoods area seems very small

[Sir Red of Norwood]

From that, Norwoods area seems very small

Small but perhaps with a higher density of the correct aged boys. The hills region seems pretty fertile, as is the inner NE.

[therisingblues]

Pretty interesting that, thanks for bringing it up Sojourner.
Says that with the redistribution of club boundaries that there is a maximum 10% discrepancy for the number of males aged 0 to 24 between any of the clubs. Seems to be a pretty fair way of assessing where the boundaries lay.

[HeartBeatsTrue]

Pretty interesting that, thanks for bringing it up Sojourner.
Says that with the redistribution of club boundaries that there is a maximum 10% discrepancy for the number of males aged 0 to 24 between any of the clubs. Seems to be a pretty fair way of assessing where the boundaries lay.

May seem fair at first glance. Country zones although they are equal with number of teenage boys, some will produce more footballers than others.
Comparing Norwood (partial hills) and Port (Eyre Pen). The number of sports a boy can choose if living in the hills is much higher than a boy that lives in Eyre Pen. Do they play anything but footy in Eyre Pen?
Yes, the hills has a lot of towns with just footy clubs, but a drive to the city to play any other sport is not out of reach.

I guess the counter arguement would be that some would not want to be too far from home and happy to keep playing at their country club.

[Grahaml]

I've heard the boundary between centrals and port in the salisbury area is spains road in part. That's the only really specific one I have heard of (my local club is right there and so it's a real nesessity to know given so many players are so close to the boundary).

[StrayDog]

I've heard the boundary between centrals and port in the salisbury area is spains road in part.

Yep, that's right. Spains Road forms part of an imaginary 9km line connecting intersections Burton Road / Port Wakefied Road (Burton) and Clayson Road / Bridge Road (Salisbury East). The latter point also part of the North Adelaide zone's western boundary.

[Dogwatcher]

Pretty interesting that, thanks for bringing it up Sojourner.
Says that with the redistribution of club boundaries that there is a maximum 10% discrepancy for the number of males aged 0 to 24 between any of the clubs. Seems to be a pretty fair way of assessing where the boundaries lay.

May seem fair at first glance. Country zones although they are equal with number of teenage boys, some will produce more footballers than others.
Comparing Norwood (partial hills) and Port (Eyre Pen). The number of sports a boy can choose if living in the hills is much higher than a boy that lives in Eyre Pen. Do they play anything but footy in Eyre Pen?
Yes, the hills has a lot of towns with just footy clubs, but a drive to the city to play any other sport is not out of reach.

I guess the counter arguement would be that some would not want to be too far from home and happy to keep playing at their country club.

Strange thinking HBT.
As there would be a higher population of kids living in the Adelaide Hills as compared to the Eyre Peninsula. Therefore, the talent pool should be a lot smaller on the Peninsula.

[therisingblues]

Pretty interesting that, thanks for bringing it up Sojourner.
Says that with the redistribution of club boundaries that there is a maximum 10% discrepancy for the number of males aged 0 to 24 between any of the clubs. Seems to be a pretty fair way of assessing where the boundaries lay.

May seem fair at first glance. Country zones although they are equal with number of teenage boys, some will produce more footballers than others.
Comparing Norwood (partial hills) and Port (Eyre Pen). The number of sports a boy can choose if living in the hills is much higher than a boy that lives in Eyre Pen. Do they play anything but footy in Eyre Pen?
Yes, the hills has a lot of towns with just footy clubs, but a drive to the city to play any other sport is not out of reach.

I guess the counter arguement would be that some would not want to be too far from home and happy to keep playing at their country club.

Strange thinking HBT.
As there would be a higher population of kids living in the Adelaide Hills as compared to the Eyre Peninsula. Therefore, the talent pool should be a lot smaller on the Peninsula.

Not higher DW, denser!
Port's area on the Eyre Penninsula is massive, whereas Norwood's area in the hills is tiny, the population density is surely compensated by the size of the respective areas.
I think HBT makes a good point though, lots of people living close to each other amounts to more choices. A population sparsely scattered would mean only the most popular sports would survive.
It would be an interesting study to analyze the proportion of soccer, hockey, basketball or rugby (etc...) stars that have risen out of Norwood's hills zone vs Port's country zone.

[HeartBeatsTrue]

Pretty interesting that, thanks for bringing it up Sojourner.
Says that with the redistribution of club boundaries that there is a maximum 10% discrepancy for the number of males aged 0 to 24 between any of the clubs. Seems to be a pretty fair way of assessing where the boundaries lay.

May seem fair at first glance. Country zones although they are equal with number of teenage boys, some will produce more footballers than others.
Comparing Norwood (partial hills) and Port (Eyre Pen). The number of sports a boy can choose if living in the hills is much higher than a boy that lives in Eyre Pen. Do they play anything but footy in Eyre Pen?
Yes, the hills has a lot of towns with just footy clubs, but a drive to the city to play any other sport is not out of reach.

I guess the counter arguement would be that some would not want to be too far from home and happy to keep playing at their country club.

Strange thinking HBT.
As there would be a higher population of kids living in the Adelaide Hills as compared to the Eyre Peninsula. Therefore, the talent pool should be a lot smaller on the Peninsula.

Sorry dogwatcher your arguement isnt a valid one.
Population between zones would be similar, thats how they work out the boundaries, Ports area would be less concentrated in population but thats why it has the biggest land mass.
Also Norwood doesnt have the whole hills. Sturt have the southern hills, eg Mt Barker, Hahndorf, Strathalbyn etc and Centrals have north of Kersbrook.

[Grahaml]

I think any advantage gained by having boys more likely to take up footy than other sports is balanced by boys not wanting to have to move home to play SANFL. A kid can live in the hills or the barossa and play footy for Norwood or Centrals respectively. A port lincoln kid can't commute without massive expense to Port Adelaide so they would have to weigh up the benefits of leaving for footy. Notwithstanding the fact that often those kids are a vital part of the family's farming labour. Leaving the farm for footy for 6 months might not be an option for many.

The only real fair balance is to get the population fairly similar. Let all the minor pros and cons balance and let the footy clubs who work their zones better get the better results.

[blueandwhite]

Interesting to note that apparently Glenelg and West Adelaide have made an application to the sanfl for an extension to their boundaries.
No prizes for guessing which club will be sodomised by the sanfl again.

[am Bays]

Interesting to note that apparently Glenelg and West Adelaide have made an application to the sanfl for an extension to their boundaries.
No prizes for guessing which club will be sodomised by the sanfl again.

O K, then

You want your existing boundaries and the increase in poulation that has occured at Seaford and Hackham in the last five years????

You (SAFC) wanted to move South 13 years ago when Noarlunga Oval was developed did you really think you'd keep all your boundaries ????

[blueandwhite]

tell you what tassie,
we'll keep seaford and hackam you take the rest and we'll swap you our country zone (goolwa,victor and pt elliot -aka Gods' waiting room) for yours ,which was originally ours.

[LBT]

tell you what tassie,
we'll keep seaford and hackam you take the rest and we'll swap you our country zone (goolwa,victor and pt elliot -aka Gods' waiting room) for yours ,which was originally ours.

Circa 1955

[therisingblues]

...so South continually have their boundaries moved to adjust for changing population densities and to keep everything "fair" as in everybody has similar access to numbers of blokes to play footy. ie. as the southern suburbs develop, South gets moved more south and clubs like Glenelg and West (and Sturt, I believe in the past) pick up enough of their old area to keep the population balance. Is this how it works?
If so, perhaps the fact that South's constant shift has made it an unsteady club? Sturt will always be focussed around Unley, Glenelg will be Glenelg, Westies at Richmond etc.. but South's home is portable it seems.

[JAS]

I have this map here which gives me a rough idea of what the SANFL Boundaries are

http://www.gisca.adelaide.edu.au/projec ... sults.html

What I am more looking for is something that gives the specfic streets that are the boundary, so just checking if anyone in here knows if there is such a thing?

Spelly made some pretty detailed lists of the areas covered by the different zones...not sure if it's what your after but might be worth a look...

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=18221&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=zones&start=20

Regards
JAS

[Dogwatcher]

Sorry dogwatcher your arguement isnt a valid one.
Population between zones would be similar, thats how they work out the boundaries, Ports area would be less concentrated in population but thats why it has the biggest land mass.
Also Norwood doesnt have the whole hills. Sturt have the southern hills, eg Mt Barker, Hahndorf, Strathalbyn etc and Centrals have north of Kersbrook.

Try telling that to West Adelaide which has the lowest population of boys aged 10 to 18 in the SANFL zone system. That's why they are lobbying to have the boundaries changed - because their country zone, which has the Riverland, but also the Mallee, which is very bereft of juniors.
Westies have done exceptionally well in juniors in the past decade considering the numbers they have.

[blueandwhite]

...so South continually have their boundaries moved to adjust for changing population densities and to keep everything "fair" as in everybody has similar access to numbers of blokes to play footy. ie. as the southern suburbs develop, South gets moved more south and clubs like Glenelg and West (and Sturt, I believe in the past) pick up enough of their old area to keep the population balance. Is this how it works?
If so, perhaps the fact that South's constant shift has made it an unsteady club? Sturt will always be focussed around Unley, Glenelg will be Glenelg, Westies at Richmond etc.. but South's home is portable it seems.

At least someone agrees with me.
Parndana ,here we come.

[PhilH]

Ironbank, Echunga, Meadows, Macclesfield and Mt Barker are Sturt

Kangarilla, Strathalbyn & Langhorne Creek are South (for the time being)

South's metro zone Northern boundary is now just 1.5km north of Hickinbotham Oval (Christie Creek)

I suspect the suburbs they South would lose first would be
- Happy Valley, O Halloran Hill to West
- Reynella to Glenelg