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Sturt Win First Stanley H Lewis Memorial Trophy in 25 years!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:42 pm
by Wedgie
STURT WINS ITS FIRST STANLEY H LEWIS TROPHY IN 25 YEARS

The SANFL wishes to congratulate the Sturt Football Club for winning the 2008 Stanley H Lewis Trophy.

It is the first time since 1983 that the Double Blues have won the trophy, which recognises excellence across all four grades of football.

The 1983 Sturt League side, like this year’s, finished second on the ladder after the minor round.

Sturt CEO Stuart Totham said winning the trophy was a significant achievement for the club.

“Winning such a highly regarded award such as the Stanley H Lewis Trophy is something that the Club is extremely proud of, especially since we have not won the award since 1983 and finished last in 2006,” he said.

“It is a direct reflection of the work put in at all levels of the club by many people ranging from volunteers, administrators, coaches and players to ensure the Sturt Football Club is a leader in South Australian football.”

The final tally was:

Club - Total (League, Reserves, U19, U17)

Sturt - 3200 (1500, 900, 420, 380)

Glenelg - 3025 (1600, 775, 420, 230)

Port Adelaide - 2145 (1000, 425, 420, 300)

Central District - 2080 (1400, 500, 150, 30)

Eagles - 2010 (900, 500, 450, 160)

North Adelaide - 2000 (900, 700, 180, 220)

Norwood - 1780 (950, 400, 330, 100)

South Adelaide - 910 (550, 50, 90, 220)

West Adelaide - 880 (200, 250, 270, 160)

The trophy, first awarded in 1962, was named for Stanley Heathcote Lewis, who served as SANFL president from 1950 to 1961.

Points are allocated on a match-by-match basis – 100 points for a League win, 50 points for a Reserves win, 30 points for an U19 win and 20 points for an U17 win.

Re: Sturt Win First Stanley H Lewis Memorial Trophy in 25 years!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:59 pm
by Thiele
Well done Sturt :)

Re: Sturt Win First Stanley H Lewis Memorial Trophy in 25 years!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:05 pm
by redandblack
Congratulations to Sturt, a worthy winner.

"the trophy, which recognises excellence across all grades of football"

What a totally ridiculous statement. I know it's a hobby horse of mine, but unless you finish in the top 2 or 3 at League level, you haven't got a hope of winning the trophy and wins at junior level are almost irrelevant.

The points system is ludicrous and doesn't live up to what the trophy aims to reward.

Re: Sturt Win First Stanley H Lewis Memorial Trophy in 25 years!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:20 pm
by Adelaide Hawk
redandblack wrote:I know it's a hobby horse of mine, but unless you finish in the top 2 or 3 at League level, you haven't got a hope of winning the trophy and wins at junior level are almost irrelevant.


Very true.

Re: Sturt Win First Stanley H Lewis Memorial Trophy in 25 years!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:24 pm
by Wedgie
Ahh, I was waiting for the annual post by r&b and/or AH. :lol:

Re: Sturt Win First Stanley H Lewis Memorial Trophy in 25 years!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:27 pm
by Adelaide Hawk
Wedgie wrote:Ahh, I was waiting for the annual post by r&b and/or AH. :lol:


Don't be stupid. I was merely agreeing with a correct statement. Got a problem with that?

Re: Sturt Win First Stanley H Lewis Memorial Trophy in 25 years!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:29 pm
by redandblack
I'm sure we're both pleased that we haven't disappointed you :D

Seriously, though, I think we're raising a good point and trying to stimulate a sensible debate about a serious topic.

This isn't about any particular team, just a system which needs fixing.

I think that a team which was very successful at League level, partially successful at Reserves level and doesn't win a game at all in the 19's and 17's, would beat a team which was reasonably successful at all 4 grades under the present system.

Let me be the first to suggest they revamp the points system next year for the introduction of the U18 comp.

Re: Sturt Win First Stanley H Lewis Memorial Trophy in 25 years!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:32 pm
by Barto
I remember 1983

*grumbles*

Re: Sturt Win First Stanley H Lewis Memorial Trophy in 25 years!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:32 pm
by redandblack
I shouldn't have spoken for AH :D

Re: Sturt Win First Stanley H Lewis Memorial Trophy in 25 years!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:33 pm
by redandblack
Barto wrote:I remember 1983

*grumbles*


I'm sure you do, Barto :D

Re: Sturt Win First Stanley H Lewis Memorial Trophy in 25 years!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:40 pm
by Pseudo
redandblack wrote:Congratulations to Sturt, a worthy winner.

"the trophy, which recognises excellence across all grades of football"

What a totally ridiculous statement. I know it's a hobby horse of mine, but unless you finish in the top 2 or 3 at League level, you haven't got a hope of winning the trophy and wins at junior level are almost irrelevant.

The points system is ludicrous and doesn't live up to what the trophy aims to reward.


This begs the question: what has been the lowest ever position of the league team of the SH Lewis winner at the end of the minor round?

Cue spelly....

In fact, a histogram of all positions achieved by the league team of the SH Lewis winners would be nice :D

Re: Sturt Win First Stanley H Lewis Memorial Trophy in 25 years!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:43 pm
by Wedgie
Pseudo wrote:
redandblack wrote:Congratulations to Sturt, a worthy winner.

"the trophy, which recognises excellence across all grades of football"

What a totally ridiculous statement. I know it's a hobby horse of mine, but unless you finish in the top 2 or 3 at League level, you haven't got a hope of winning the trophy and wins at junior level are almost irrelevant.

The points system is ludicrous and doesn't live up to what the trophy aims to reward.


This begs the question: what has been the lowest ever position of the league team of the SH Lewis winner at the end of the minor round?

Cue spelly....

In fact, a histogram of all positions achieved by the league team of the SH Lewis winners would be nice :D


This might help from last year:

spell_check wrote:The Grand Final winners have finished on the Stanley H. Lewis trophy thus:

1st: 21 times
2nd: 10 times
3rd: 9 times
4th: Twice
5th: Twice
6th: Once


PS Sorry AH, twas an ongoing joke, didn't meant to turn you violent ya cranky britches! :?
Gee whillickers, is it a full moon or something?

Re: Sturt Win First Stanley H Lewis Memorial Trophy in 25 years!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:46 pm
by redandblack
Which proves our point.

Re: Sturt Win First Stanley H Lewis Memorial Trophy in 25 years!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:47 pm
by redandblack
Given up on William Blake, Pseudo?

Re: Sturt Win First Stanley H Lewis Memorial Trophy in 25 years!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:47 pm
by Wedgie
redandblack wrote:Which proves our point.

What, that Im stupid? :wink:

Congratulations to Sturt, IMHO very deserving winners of the award, will be interesting to see how its amended next year.

Re: Sturt Win First Stanley H Lewis Memorial Trophy in 25 years!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:51 pm
by PhilH
Sturt a worthy winner however the points calculated

Across 4 grades

Sturt - 15 + 18 + 14 + 19 = 66 wins out of 80 grades

Glenelg - 16 + 15.5 + 14 + 11.5 = 57 wins

Port - 10 + 8.5 + 13 + 15 = 46.5 wins

Eagles - 9 + 10 + 15 +8 = 42 wins

North - 9 + 14 + 6 + 11 = 40 wins

Norwood - 9.5 + 8 + 11 + 5 = 33.5 wins

Central - 14 +10 + 5 + 3 = 32 wins

West - 2 + 5 + 9 + 8 = 24 wins

South - 5.5 + 1 + 3 + 11 = 20 wins

Re: Sturt Win First Stanley H Lewis Memorial Trophy in 25 years!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:51 pm
by am Bays
Well given that successful clubs should be aspiring to have their league team being successful, the SHL trophy should reward league wins over all other grade wins.

I think the ratio of points is spot on.

Re: Sturt Win First Stanley H Lewis Memorial Trophy in 25 years!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:56 pm
by JK
Well done to Sturt ... After the group Carmen & Phillips assembled in the late 90's early 2000's I thought they might be in for a bit of a slip once they turned their group over, but bar 1 down season they've been very good and it's just reward I guess for good planning, full marks to them.

Re: Sturt Win First Stanley H Lewis Memorial Trophy in 25 years!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:17 pm
by Tassie Blues
redandblack wrote:Congratulations to Sturt, a worthy winner.

"the trophy, which recognises excellence across all grades of football"

What a totally ridiculous statement. I know it's a hobby horse of mine, but unless you finish in the top 2 or 3 at League level, you haven't got a hope of winning the trophy and wins at junior level are almost irrelevant.

The points system is ludicrous and doesn't live up to what the trophy aims to reward.


How should they award the trophy then? what poiny system would you like to see?

Re: Sturt Win First Stanley H Lewis Memorial Trophy in 25 years!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:24 pm
by redandblack
1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:Well given that successful clubs should be aspiring to have their league team being successful, the SHL trophy should reward league wins over all other grade wins.

I think the ratio of points is spot on.


Read what I said, Tassie.