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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby beenreal » Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:09 am

on the rails wrote:
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oldfella wrote:My apologies, I did not answer your original question "So you're writing the Magpies aren't allowed to import or recruit players?

I didn't say or infer this however since you raise the question the yes the Port Magpies can import or recruit players however the link to the Power shall be no different than for any other SANFL club and should not be used to assist recruiting.

Port continue to find ways to gain an unfair advantage. One thing that's clear is they can never be trusted, lying has become a trait.


You mean "advantages" like only being able to mini draft Power listed Players and if a Crows player is left The Magpies have to Pass?

That's not Administration, that's Football.

But because that disadvantages Port Adelaide it somehow doesn't matter!


What was your response on the Powerfromport forum re the Jurrah issue, "the other SANFL clubs can go and get stuffed"? It really shows what you think so don't get on here and preach. Your typical Port Adelaide, you think you own the world and everyone owes your club! In your own words "get stuffed"!


More deflection from the question posed.

I'm over pandering and being rational to you haters. And I'm on record on this forum saying that I'm pleased the PAFC is using IT'S OWN resources.

Deal with it!
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby whufc » Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:24 am

Your missing the point Beenreal,

The whole agreement signed between the Power, Magpies, SANFL and voted for by the other SANFL clubs was that you werent to use all your "FOOTBALL RESOURCES" between the two clubs. This is clearly in breach of that part of the agreement.

No wonder the rest of the SANFL clubs couldnt give a 5hite when the Magpies fold in 2 years and the Power in 5 years, we then wont have to deal with it LOL

Can this absolute rabble of a football club get anything right, accounting, football, comprehension obviously isnt this clubs strength.

Oh well i have a soft spot for Port, they happily paid Matty Westoffs wages for us for a few years.
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby whufc » Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:27 am

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oldfella wrote:My apologies, I did not answer your original question "So you're writing the Magpies aren't allowed to import or recruit players?

I didn't say or infer this however since you raise the question the yes the Port Magpies can import or recruit players however the link to the Power shall be no different than for any other SANFL club and should not be used to assist recruiting.

Port continue to find ways to gain an unfair advantage. One thing that's clear is they can never be trusted, lying has become a trait.


You mean "advantages" like only being able to mini draft Power listed Players and if a Crows player is left The Magpies have to Pass?

That's not Administration, that's Football.

But because that disadvantages Port Adelaide it somehow doesn't matter!


It doesnt matter because you end up getting back a fair portion of the Power listed players who go to other clubs, due to convincing them they will get closer to a Power game by being at the Magpies, helped Salopek didnt it.

Oops how much did these broke arses spend on him!
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby beenreal » Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:37 am

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oldfella wrote:My apologies, I did not answer your original question "So you're writing the Magpies aren't allowed to import or recruit players?

I didn't say or infer this however since you raise the question the yes the Port Magpies can import or recruit players however the link to the Power shall be no different than for any other SANFL club and should not be used to assist recruiting.

Port continue to find ways to gain an unfair advantage. One thing that's clear is they can never be trusted, lying has become a trait.


You mean "advantages" like only being able to mini draft Power listed Players and if a Crows player is left The Magpies have to Pass?

That's not Administration, that's Football.

But because that disadvantages Port Adelaide it somehow doesn't matter!


It doesnt matter because you end up getting back a fair portion of the Power listed players who go to other clubs, due to convincing them they will get closer to a Power game by being at the Magpies, helped Salopek didnt it.

Oops how much did these broke arses spend on him!


Thanks for proving my point. The whole deal disadvantaged the Magpies when originally put in place. But that doesn't matter to the likes of you who are only focused on some perceived outcome.

Case in point, you're happy to mention Salopek but overlook Lobbe's transfer to West Adelaide.
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby Brodlach » Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:40 am

Lobbe was the third or fourth ruckman in line at the Magpies though. The Power certainly got a better player by moving him to West.
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby whufc » Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:40 am

Do the math mate, ALOT more have landed at Alberton than have left!

Without even doing research im thinking, Lockwood, Surjan, Salopek.
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby TimmiesChin » Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:45 am

whufc wrote:The whole agreement signed between the Power, Magpies, SANFL and voted for by the other SANFL clubs was that you werent to use all your "FOOTBALL RESOURCES" between the two clubs. This is clearly in breach of that part of the agreement.


Perhaps you can provide a link to the agreement and the elements of it that have been breached - prior to any arrangement being set up of course.

Surely if Jurrah plays for the Magpies and his playing salary is under the cap there's no complaints with that component of it ?

Surely if the Power give him a community development role as stated and pay him for that, it would get audited to confirm he's being paid valid market rates for the role.... just like I'm sure the Centrals players that land in jobs at Tom Zorich SportsPower have their contracts audited to confirm they are getting paid valid rates in line with the hours they do.

Can you highlight the differences....
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby Dutchy » Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:49 am

No problems with what Port Power have been done, except will they still provide support to him if he chooses to go to another SANFL club?

Surely if they have his best interests at heart, like they are saying, they wouldnt care where he plays SANFL?
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:51 am

i reckon south should pick Jurrah up!
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby whufc » Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:53 am

TimmiesChin wrote:
whufc wrote:The whole agreement signed between the Power, Magpies, SANFL and voted for by the other SANFL clubs was that you werent to use all your "FOOTBALL RESOURCES" between the two clubs. This is clearly in breach of that part of the agreement.


Perhaps you can provide a link to the agreement and the elements of it that have been breached - prior to any arrangement being set up of course.

Surely if Jurrah plays for the Magpies and his playing salary is under the cap there's no complaints with that component of it ?

Surely if the Power give him a community development role as stated and pay him for that, it would get audited to confirm he's being paid valid market rates for the role.... just like I'm sure the Centrals players that land in jobs at Tom Zorich SportsPower have their contracts audited to confirm they are getting paid valid rates in line with the hours they do.

Can you highlight the differences....


Yeah being able to offer blokes jobs in the AFL system is no advantage to the Magpies!

The magpies are using the Powers resources (job availabilty) as a recruiting tool!

As others have said would he still have a job if he chose Norwood as his club to play at............. Very debatable
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby TimmiesChin » Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:56 am

Dutchy wrote:No problems with what Port Power have been done, except will they still provide support to him if he chooses to go to another SANFL club?

Surely if they have his best interests at heart, like they are saying, they wouldnt care where he plays SANFL?


Given where he resides, there's probably only 3 or 4 clubs that would look at picking him up.

I'd suggest, that regardless of where he played, it would be in Ports (AFL) interest to still support him, especially if it is confirmed he was delisted by Melbourne (as all articles seem to suggest) rather than delisting himself. A good working relationship with Liam - if he gets over his issues would put Port in the box seat to list him as a delisted free agent at the end of next season.
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby TimmiesChin » Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:58 am

whufc wrote:
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whufc wrote:The whole agreement signed between the Power, Magpies, SANFL and voted for by the other SANFL clubs was that you werent to use all your "FOOTBALL RESOURCES" between the two clubs. This is clearly in breach of that part of the agreement.


Perhaps you can provide a link to the agreement and the elements of it that have been breached - prior to any arrangement being set up of course.

Surely if Jurrah plays for the Magpies and his playing salary is under the cap there's no complaints with that component of it ?

Surely if the Power give him a community development role as stated and pay him for that, it would get audited to confirm he's being paid valid market rates for the role.... just like I'm sure the Centrals players that land in jobs at Tom Zorich SportsPower have their contracts audited to confirm they are getting paid valid rates in line with the hours they do.

Can you highlight the differences....


Yeah being able to offer blokes jobs in the AFL system is no advantage to the Magpies!

The magpies are using the Powers resources (job availabilty) as a recruiting tool!

As others have said would he still have a job if he chose Norwood as his club to play at............. Very debatable


I asked you to highlight the differences, not provide running commentary.
Centrals have an advantage being the only club that can offer players jobs in the businesses associated with that club ...
As per my other post, chances of Port supporting him if he played for another SANFL club are greater than 0, which is greater than the chances of Centrals supporting a player that left them for another SANFL club.

Every club has different attractions to players...... so long as all signings are vetted as above board, I don't know what more you want done.
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby whufc » Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:01 am

The difference being Central don't have an agreement saying we won't use certain resources.
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby Booney » Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:01 am

Dutchy wrote:No problems with what Port Power have been done, except will they still provide support to him if he chooses to go to another SANFL club?

Surely if they have his best interests at heart, like they are saying, they wouldnt care where he plays SANFL?


I would say 100% yes. Our community programs, including indigenous specific programs, are brilliant.
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby TimmiesChin » Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:07 am

whufc wrote:The difference being Central don't have an agreement saying we won't use certain resources.


The agreement you still haven't produced.

Unitl youy produce it, lets forget it. If Ports contracts with Jurrah are vetted and above board, do you have an issue ?
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby Brodlach » Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:12 am

Dutchy wrote:No problems with what Port Power have been done, except will they still provide support to him if he chooses to go to another SANFL club?

Surely if they have his best interests at heart, like they are saying, they wouldnt care where he plays SANFL?


Agree Dutchy, it actually makes sense to have him at the Magpies though. Living in the Northen suburbs, getting support from the Power, just seems logical
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby whufc » Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:17 am

Brodlach wrote:
Dutchy wrote:No problems with what Port Power have been done, except will they still provide support to him if he chooses to go to another SANFL club?

Surely if they have his best interests at heart, like they are saying, they wouldnt care where he plays SANFL?


Agree Dutchy, it actually makes sense to have him at the Magpies though. Living in the Northen suburbs, getting support from the Power, just seems logical


Totally agree, I have no issue with him being there, it's just very naive to think the 'one club' didn't land him there
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby TimmiesChin » Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:20 am

whufc wrote:Totally agree, I have no issue with him being there, it's just very naive to think the 'one club' didn't land him there


He's actually not there yet, and you're right, the One PAFC will have helped.

He's been offered an opportunity, he may not take it.
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby CENTURION » Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:45 am

Can he play in ruck? If so, We'll take him NOW!
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby Dutchy » Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:00 am

Booney wrote:
Dutchy wrote:No problems with what Port Power have been done, except will they still provide support to him if he chooses to go to another SANFL club?

Surely if they have his best interests at heart, like they are saying, they wouldnt care where he plays SANFL?


I would say 100% yes. Our community programs, including indigenous specific programs, are brilliant.


So why not say that in yesterdays release?
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