Player MOVEMENTS and DISCUSSION for 2013

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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby heater31 » Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:34 pm

I think it is very underhand tactics from the PAFC.


How many other clubs would like to be given a heads up that an AFL affiliate invited a player to train with them then not draft them?
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby beenreal » Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:40 pm

oldfella wrote:The released statement today uses the name Port Adelaide continually and does discuss football matter at AFL & SANFL level under the one team Port Adelaide.

As per the quote and as per the Power website joining of the teams would not affect the on field operations of the clubs, with only administration and off field management merging. "It's commercial and administrative rather than football."
http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/n ... fault.aspx

This is not a commercial matter nor is it administration matter - it is the Power recruiting a player for the Port Magpies which is a football matter and against the agreement with the SANFL and other clubs.

Any of the assistance for a support network provided by the Power can be provided by them to any SANFL club surely?


Of course protecting the best interests of a person would be considered underhanded in some cold hearted circles.

Precedent determines any answers given on this subject will not be accepted. So I'll simply say I'm ecstatic that Port Adelaide is maximizing its use of its SANFL division. Goes a small way to make up for the disgraceful SANFL enforced exile to Etheton.
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby Jim05 » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:03 pm

beenreal wrote:
oldfella wrote:This does not seem to fit the 2010 statement by a Director of the Port Adelaide Magpies, John Firthon 891 Breakfast that the approving vote from SANFL Directors for One Team was welcome news.

Mr Firth reinforced that the rejoining of the teams would not affect the on field operations of the clubs, with only administration and off field management merging. "It's commercial and administrative rather than football."


Please enlighten us on how this doesn't fit? The PAFC want to offer Jurrah a support network. How does that happen if he is at another club?

So you're writing the Magpies aren't allowed to import or recruit players?

Not when they cheat the salary cap
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby Go Legs » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:11 pm

I don't have a problem with Liam Jurrah being made a Port Magpies recruit, just the same process as any other player being recruited so long as his player payments are all he receives and that his salary is part of the SANFL Port Magpies Salary Cap.

Providing him a support group, tending his injuries etc all good for the Port Magpies

My problem is that this is all designed around him becoming a Port Power player in 12 months time, providing his performance and clarity of judgement fulfill the Powers requirements which have obviously been agreed upon. Isn't this tampering with the AFL draft, he is not now a Port Power Player, or even a listed rookie, what if another club wants him beforehand I can't see the Power getting away with that.
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby Spargo » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:13 pm

beenreal wrote:Goes a small way to make up for the disgraceful SANFL enforced exile to Etheton.


Couldn't help yourself. :cry:
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby Grahaml » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:15 pm

Spargo wrote:
beenreal wrote:Goes a small way to make up for the disgraceful SANFL enforced exile to Etheton.


Couldn't help yourself. :cry:


Funny how some Port supporters seem to honestly believe the SANFL owes them something.
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby am Bays » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:21 pm

Given he is likely to get off in March, all witnesses and the victim were "horrors brus" at the the time (enough evidence to say he has a case to answer but not enough to convict), wouldn't be surprised if he is playing in black and white this year - the Yuendumu Magpies in the AFLCA competition.
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby Aerie » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:23 pm

Will be good to have Jurrah in the SANFL. He is exciting to watch and should bring people through the gates. As for him being groomed as a Power player via the Magpies - no different to the likes of Skipworth going to the Bombers Reserves and I'm sure there are countless other examples over many years.

I guess the Magpies weren't too fussed losing Wilson if they already knew Jurrah was coming?
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby beenreal » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:41 pm

Aerie wrote:Will be good to have Jurrah in the SANFL. He is exciting to watch and should bring people through the gates. As for him being groomed as a Power player via the Magpies - no different to the likes of Skipworth going to the Bombers Reserves and I'm sure there are countless other examples over many years.

I guess the Magpies weren't too fussed losing Wilson if they already knew Jurrah was coming?


The PAFC weren't fussed abut losing Wilson because he returns to the West with his reputation in tatters.

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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby RustyCage » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:54 pm

whufc wrote:
pafc1870 wrote:
whufc wrote:
hereselmo1 wrote:Watch the One Port concept go from an evil plot to kill off the Magpies to an evil plot to ensure the Magpies get an unfair advantage in the space of one newspaper article.


In all seriousness though, do u honestly think the magpies won't use being aligned with the Power as a recruiting tool.

Have heard Henry Slattery will be working for the Power and playing for the Magpies next season as well


Hasn't he worked at the Prince of Wales for a couple of years anyway?


What while playing for Essendon, don't think so!


haha, wrong Slattery!
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby RustyCage » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:56 pm

Go Legs wrote:I don't have a problem with Liam Jurrah being made a Port Magpies recruit, just the same process as any other player being recruited so long as his player payments are all he receives and that his salary is part of the SANFL Port Magpies Salary Cap.

Providing him a support group, tending his injuries etc all good for the Port Magpies

My problem is that this is all designed around him becoming a Port Power player in 12 months time, providing his performance and clarity of judgement fulfill the Powers requirements which have obviously been agreed upon. Isn't this tampering with the AFL draft, he is not now a Port Power Player, or even a listed rookie, what if another club wants him beforehand I can't see the Power getting away with that.


If another club wanted him, they could get him, though the only other club that possibly could get him is Adelaide, as he said he will be living in Adelaide
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby sjt » Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:44 am

oldfella wrote:My apologies, I did not answer your original question "So you're writing the Magpies aren't allowed to import or recruit players?

I didn't say or infer this however since you raise the question the yes the Port Magpies can import or recruit players however the link to the Power shall be no different than for any other SANFL club and should not be used to assist recruiting.

Port continue to find ways to gain an unfair advantage. One thing that's clear is they can never be trusted, lying has become a trait.
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby SDK » Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:45 am

If another AFL Club picks him up then Port miss out. I would have thought this situation is exactly why we have rookie lists. Power are committed to him with no committment !!??
I hope he does well at the Magpies though and returns to Power next year. Good player caught up in a bad situation involving his culture that maybe we don't really understand. Sounds like he will get off and even if convicted will get off with just crucifiction.
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby on the rails » Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:55 am

Rumours floating around SANFL corridors re Jurrah is that his payment demands, whilst not big for AFL are very very high for an SANFL club and the questioned is being asked who will actually be paying him re the "one club" arrangement. I am sure he will be on the SANFL part of the agreement for SANFL Salary Cap purposes!
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby holden78 » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:12 am

Thin edge of the wedge. This one is out in the open though unlike the Joel Tippett recruitment and payments!
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby whufc » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:30 am

Aerie wrote:Will be good to have Jurrah in the SANFL. He is exciting to watch and should bring people through the gates. As for him being groomed as a Power player via the Magpies - no different to the likes of Skipworth going to the Bombers Reserves and I'm sure there are countless other examples over many years.

I guess the Magpies weren't too fussed losing Wilson if they already knew Jurrah was coming?


Difference between Skipworth and Jureah situation is in football terms the Magpies ARE NOT the Powers reserves team!
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby TimmiesChin » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:39 am

on the rails wrote:Rumours floating around SANFL corridors re Jurrah is that his payment demands, whilst not big for AFL are very very high for an SANFL club and the questioned is being asked who will actually be paying him re the "one club" arrangement. I am sure he will be on the SANFL part of the agreement for SANFL Salary Cap purposes!


Its just a bit humorous that the club announces they wont be selecting him late yesterday and already there are "rumours floating around SANFL corridors".
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby beenreal » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:43 am

sjt wrote:
oldfella wrote:My apologies, I did not answer your original question "So you're writing the Magpies aren't allowed to import or recruit players?

I didn't say or infer this however since you raise the question the yes the Port Magpies can import or recruit players however the link to the Power shall be no different than for any other SANFL club and should not be used to assist recruiting.

Port continue to find ways to gain an unfair advantage. One thing that's clear is they can never be trusted, lying has become a trait.


You mean "advantages" like only being able to mini draft Power listed Players and if a Crows player is left The Magpies have to Pass?

That's not Administration, that's Football.

But because that disadvantages Port Adelaide it somehow doesn't matter!
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:55 am

SDK wrote:If another AFL Club picks him up then Port miss out. I would have thought this situation is exactly why we have rookie lists. Power are committed to him with no committment !!??
I hope he does well at the Magpies though and returns to Power next year. Good player caught up in a bad situation involving his culture that maybe we don't really understand. Sounds like he will get off and even if convicted will get off with just crucifiction.

If convicted, he won't walk. Mandatory sentencing in the nt.
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Re: Off Season Player RUMOURS and DISCUSSION for 2013

Postby on the rails » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:58 am

beenreal wrote:
sjt wrote:
oldfella wrote:My apologies, I did not answer your original question "So you're writing the Magpies aren't allowed to import or recruit players?

I didn't say or infer this however since you raise the question the yes the Port Magpies can import or recruit players however the link to the Power shall be no different than for any other SANFL club and should not be used to assist recruiting.

Port continue to find ways to gain an unfair advantage. One thing that's clear is they can never be trusted, lying has become a trait.


You mean "advantages" like only being able to mini draft Power listed Players and if a Crows player is left The Magpies have to Pass?

That's not Administration, that's Football.

But because that disadvantages Port Adelaide it somehow doesn't matter!



What was your response on the Powerfromport forum re the Jurrah issue, "the other SANFL clubs can go and get stuffed"? It really shows what you think so don't get on here and preach. Your typical Port Adelaide, you think you own the world and everyone owes your club! In your own words "get stuffed"!
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